Venezuela 2017

[Secundus Imperium Romanum]

Their government has been collecting civilian guns to arm pro-government militias.

Old.

In fact, after the impeachment of the socialist Dilma Roussef, Venezuela froze relations with Brazil so most of the immigrants are legal and become slaves or prostitutes in the extreme north of the country.

On the Guianas there is not much to say, they are quite irrelevant. Quite irrelevant.

Roraima is a little brazilian state, with only 500 thousand people, and it's too far away from big cities. 20 thousand immigrants or more is a big problem for them, especially with the possibility of a civil war in Venezuela. Brazil needs an emergency plan.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/04/18/ven ... ing-brazil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWjx8vr83LI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvEeSjfcPiY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdnRp3Chb6c

I know, it's a 100% rural state, the whole population lives in the capital or in neighboring towns. But nowadays it is being flooded with Venezuelan and Haitian immigrants fleeing war and starvation and without jobs, they see slaves or prostitutes working 23 hours a day to earn a plate of food, as well as the drugs that pass by. Unfortunately the state is in the middle of the Amazon forest and it is impossible to maintain a border control system.

[Mushet]

Just put me in charge.

I can't make it that much worse

[Great Minarchistan]

Venezuela needs austerity and free market policies ASAP. Socialism - or social-democracy? idk at this point - turned them in a hellhole pretty fast: 900% inflation (reported by government = way below the reality), -10% GDP growth, terrible healthcare and education, plus a destroyed oil industry.

Well, Venezuela isn't purely socialist. they have some socialists policies, but I have heard some classified them as "Fascists".

Fascist, socialist, whatever. Thing is, they are in shambles thanks to State overspending and the dependence over oil. Free their market, balance budgets (and kill Maduro) would control their inflation and bring confidence from investors.

[The Sauganash Union]

I like how Madura just relies on his paramilitary now. Doesn't even bother with the National Guard. How tinpot of him.

[Great Minarchistan]

I like how Madura just relies on his paramilitary now. Doesn't even bother with the National Guard. How tinpot of him.

I wonder if his soldiers receive daily meals or are just a bunch of starving farmers. (I'm not joking)

[Randsbeik]

I like how Madura just relies on his paramilitary now. Doesn't even bother with the National Guard. How tinpot of him.

I wonder if his soldiers receive daily meals or are just a bunch of starving farmers. (I'm not joking)

Rationed sewer rat, likely.

[Great Minarchistan]

I wonder if his soldiers receive daily meals or are just a bunch of starving farmers. (I'm not joking)

Rationed sewer rat, likely.

Someone read the venezuela strawman ball meme... =)

[Cuprum]

Venezuela will endure until 2018 in which new presidential elections will be called and the populist from the right will take the power.

[Great Minarchistan]

Venezuela will endure until 2018 in which new presidential elections will be called and the populist from the right will take the power.

If Maduro doesn't forbid the elections...

[Kubra]

Venezuela will endure until 2018 in which new presidential elections will be called and the populist from the right will take the power.

it's not all sunshine and roses after that bruv
decline can become even greater crisis if mismanaged, privatisation and market reform in places highly rank for corruption can mean more proverbial loot and plunder instead of positive economic reform.
That's not to say that it's better off sticking with Maduro, simply that you gotta keep a real eye out on who replaces him.

[Great Minarchistan]

Venezuela will endure until 2018 in which new presidential elections will be called and the populist from the right will take the power.

it's not all sunshine and roses after that bruv
decline can become even greater crisis if mismanaged, privatisation and market reform in places highly rank for corruption can mean more proverbial loot and plunder instead of positive economic reform.
That's not to say that it's better off sticking with Maduro, simply that you gotta keep a real eye out on who replaces him.

Believe me buddy, Venezuela reached such a cringy state where nothing but more socialism can fuck it even further.

[Kubra]

it's not all sunshine and roses after that bruv
decline can become even greater crisis if mismanaged, privatisation and market reform in places highly rank for corruption can mean more proverbial loot and plunder instead of positive economic reform.
That's not to say that it's better off sticking with Maduro, simply that you gotta keep a real eye out on who replaces him.

Believe me buddy, Venezuela reached such a cringy state where nothing but more socialism can fuck it even further.

Naw short of civil war things can always get worse. Folks figured that about the Soviet Union when pushing Yeltsin and his guys instead of the honest market liberal sorts. And hey, imagine if Yeltsin had managed to drive folks to proper civil war, that would have deffo been even worse.

[Secundus Imperium Romanum]

Venezuela will endure until 2018 in which new presidential elections will be called and the populist from the right will take the power.

Probably it will make a coup, but this can generate a civil war

[Aboim]

I know, it's a 100% rural state, the whole population lives in the capital or in neighboring towns. But nowadays it is being flooded with Venezuelan and Haitian immigrants fleeing war and starvation and without jobs, they see slaves or prostitutes working 23 hours a day to earn a plate of food, as well as the drugs that pass by. Unfortunately the state is in the middle of the Amazon forest and it is impossible to maintain a border control system.

These people are accepting unsafe conditions in Brazil just for food and healthcare. According with local reports, even indigenous tribes are moving to Brazil. I can't imagine what is happening into Venezuela

[G-Tech Corporation]

Poll does not include "Fuck Maduro and his kleptocratic cronies".

I am disappoint.

[Secundus Imperium Romanum]

Poll does not include "Fuck Maduro and his kleptocratic cronies".

I am disappoint.

Also include "fuck the state, i want freedom"

[Thermodolia]

Been collecting civilian guns to arm pro-government militias.

Yeah I've been following that, pretty scary.

Venezuela needs some change ASAP.

Time to Freedomize them

[Thermodolia]

Poll does not include "Fuck Maduro and his kleptocratic cronies".

I am disappoint.

Poll also doesn't include a Freedomize option

[Rio Cana]

The quicker they collapse the better.

They've been preying on the Dutch colonies ever since we totally humiliated them in the Dutch-Venezuelan Crisis of 1908, and I fear they might try to send troops against our colonies in order to capitalise on anti-colonial (buzzword for commie) ultranationalism. I don't really think some kind of country beneath that of ours could even begin to hope to beat us but I'd see it as a waste of recourses to teach the inferior nations a lesson.

We should probably try to push for privatisation of a large part of their economy in a mixed native-foreign style as to balance things out after the commies have been kicked out of office.

P.S: Don't take middle part seriously pls no h8 <3

The big losers were the Netherlanders

The Dutch failed to obtain the general commercial agreement with Venezuela they had hoped for. Once again a European aggression against Venezuela had worked to the advantage of United States interests.

[Rio Cana]

I know, it's a 100% rural state, the whole population lives in the capital or in neighboring towns. But nowadays it is being flooded with Venezuelan and Haitian immigrants fleeing war and starvation and without jobs, they see slaves or prostitutes working 23 hours a day to earn a plate of food, as well as the drugs that pass by. Unfortunately the state is in the middle of the Amazon forest and it is impossible to maintain a border control system.

These people are accepting unsafe conditions in Brazil just for food and healthcare. According with local reports, even indigenous tribes are moving to Brazil. I can't imagine what is happening into Venezuela

Read an article which points out that Ven. since independence days has had an authoritarian Pres./central government which has run things. With each new Pres. came a new economic plan for the whole nation. They say that is the problem. Even though Ven. is a Federal Republic, the individual Ven. States really do not have much power or input on how things are run. For a long time, Governors in Ven. were appointed by the Pres. But even after the people could elect them, these Governors tended to follow the Pres./central governments agenda. Just look at Ven. today. Only three states out of 23 States do not belong to the political party in power. Elections for Governors were to be held last year (seems they have them all at the same time) but the Pres. postponed them. Supposedly, they should be held this year. But you see the power that the pres./ central government has over the States.

An example - In the US each State governor controls his own State militia and National Guard. In Ven. it seems that the State Governors do not control there own State militia or National Guard. They all answer to the Pres./central government. So it does seems power needs to be given to the States and even municipalities. This should keep the cental government in Ven. more in check.

[Cuprum]

Venezuela will endure until 2018 in which new presidential elections will be called and the populist from the right will take the power.

it's not all sunshine and roses after that bruv
decline can become even greater crisis if mismanaged, privatisation and market reform in places highly rank for corruption can mean more proverbial loot and plunder instead of positive economic reform.
That's not to say that it's better off sticking with Maduro, simply that you gotta keep a real eye out on who replaces him.

The opposition in Venezuela is mediocre like most of the liberal pro business parties in latinoamerica, that's why a charismatic putschist like Chavéz won the elections two times (and now he even has a tv series). They will end like Brazil or Argentina, maybe worst since they are an oil dependant nation without industry.

[Costa Fierro]

it's not all sunshine and roses after that bruv
decline can become even greater crisis if mismanaged, privatisation and market reform in places highly rank for corruption can mean more proverbial loot and plunder instead of positive economic reform.
That's not to say that it's better off sticking with Maduro, simply that you gotta keep a real eye out on who replaces him.

The opposition in Venezuela is mediocre like most of the liberal pro business parties in latinoamerica, that's why a charismatic putschist like Chavéz won the elections two times (and now he even has a tv series). They will end like Brazil or Argentina, maybe worst since they are an oil dependant nation without industry.

Venezuela had a very prolific vehicle manufacturing industry but ultimately it tanked like the rest of the economy. Most of the factories have suspended operations because the economic and political climate is way too unstable for them to be viable.

[Bakery Hill]

The Ven. govt. is saying these protest are US supported. So today they nationalized a GM Venezuelan Auto manufacturing plant. GM is taking them to court.

Finally some good news.

[Bakery Hill]

Venezuela needs austerity and free market policies ASAP. Socialism - or social-democracy? idk at this point - turned them in a hellhole pretty fast: 900% inflation (reported by government = way below the reality), -10% GDP growth, terrible healthcare and education, plus a destroyed oil industry.

Eat the poor.

[Bakery Hill]

Foolproof Plan for Maduro:
1) Class war, all power to the colectivos, expropriate industry.
2) Defend Venzuela from the inevitable Yankee Imperialist attack as a patriotic act, rally the masses to your banner.
3) Break their forces Bay of Pigs style. Release the survivors as a show of good will. Anti war sentiment in US picksup.
4) Begin funding supporting revolutionaries in America to overthrow their corrupt government.
5) Join with the newly liberated United Socialist States of America to liberate all of the Americas.
6) World Socialism in the 21st Century.