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So what should those in charge in Ven. do

Do nothing and go bust
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Austerity plan no matter the public backlash
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Break-up Ven. into 3 or 4 nations
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Not Sure
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Postby Secundus Imperium Romanum » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:01 am

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Postby Vkraine » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:10 am

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:13 am

Secundus Imperium Romanum wrote:this is ridiculous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4XzhcNrU80


It would almost be funny, if Maduro wasn't using it to promote the rewriting of the Constitution in to a single-party state.
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Postby Secundus Imperium Romanum » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:17 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Secundus Imperium Romanum wrote:this is ridiculous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4XzhcNrU80


It would almost be funny, if Maduro wasn't using it to promote the rewriting of the Constitution in to a single-party state.

It is only officializing the pseudo-socialist state that venezuela is already
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Postby Minoa » Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:48 am

Source: http://theconversation.com/for-venezuel ... fter-81544

If the Constitutional Assembly goes ahead and the last democratic institutions go, then I am not seeing any peaceful way out of this any time soon, and I think DolarToday would then report much higher parallel exchange rates than now (currently 9,390.95 VEF per USD or 10,893.50 per EUR) as capital flight continues.

In any case, I wish to reassure NSGers that the events in Venezuela are not affecting my current state of mental health. That is not to play down the general sense of sadness to see Venezuela in such a state with the unrest and hunger.
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Postby Minoa » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:48 am

Source: http://www.el-nacional.com/noticias/pol ... nes_195480 (in Spanish)

I am learning that the Minister for the Interior, Néstor Reverol, has announced this afternoon (London time) that all protests and demonstrations are banned from this Friday in respect of the Constitutional Assembly elections.

However, I do not believe that the protestors will comply given how tired they are of Maduro and his government. The death toll from the current wave of protests has reached 106. Two airlines, Avianca and Delta, are announcing that they are withdrawing from Venezuela due to the economic situation, as well as the condition of the airport infrastructure.

NSG, we are witnessing the death of democracy in Venezuela as I speak.
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Postby Belkan America » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:54 am

Minoa wrote:NSG, we are witnessing the death of democracy in Venezuela as I speak.

Yay!, i live in a country where democracy is dying!.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:55 am

Minoa wrote:Source: http://www.el-nacional.com/noticias/pol ... nes_195480 (in Spanish)

I am learning that the Minister for the Interior, Néstor Reverol, has announced this afternoon (London time) that all protests and demonstrations are banned from this Friday in respect of the Constitutional Assembly elections.

However, I do not believe that the protestors will comply given how tired they are of Maduro and his government. The death toll from the current wave of protests has reached 106. Two airlines, Avianca and Delta, are announcing that they are withdrawing from Venezuela due to the economic situation, as well as the condition of the airport infrastructure.

NSG, we are witnessing the death of democracy in Venezuela as I speak.


With any luck they'll eventually overthrow this moron.
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Postby Rio Cana » Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:07 pm

Colombia has quarantined areas near the border with Venezuela since cattle in Colombia have been found to have foot and mouth disease. Colombia says the foot and mouth (F&M) more then likely came from cattle smuggled from Venezuela. The governor of the Ven. border state of Tachira says there is no F&M in Ven.. Colombia vaccinates its cattle and is certified to not have had F&M disease.

the most recent cases stem from the ongoing cattle smuggling from neighboring Venezuela, where the government has been unable to adequately vaccinate cattle and wipe out the disease for years.


So it really seems this came from Ven. cattle which means how bad is this situation in Ven. So far Ven., and Chile stop meat imports from Colombia. Mexico stopped all diary imports from Colombia. Colombia has also eliminated over 500 cattle. Colombia is also increasing border security alongside there border with Ven.

The story - https://colombiareports.com/colombia-pl ... h-disease/
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Postby Minoa » Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:58 pm

It has been a bad day for Venezuela: quoting Reuters, 7 people have been killed in clashes on the streets, and the US government has now asked family members and U.S. government employees to evacuate its embassy at Caracas.

The unrest also continues to reflect on the bolívar "fuerte" parallel rate, now trading at 9,787.79 bolívares per dollar, or 11,451.71 bolívares per euro.
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Postby Minoa » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:20 am

According to DolarToday, the black market rate has crossed the 10,000 bolivar mark, now trading at 10,389.79 per dollar, or 12,156.05 per euro.

I communicate this because it is still not a good time to buy the latest notes for my collection. The 20,000 bolivar note on sales on eBay is grossly overvalued now. £5 to £7.50 is the best offer I can make for that denomination at this time.

And the opposition will not be complying with the protest ban, amid panic-buying prior to the planned defiance.
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Postby Belkan America » Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:05 am

It's the day.

6:04 am in Venezuela.
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Postby Minoa » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:39 am

Belkan America wrote:It's the day.

6:04 am in Venezuela.

Can you tell us how bad it is in the country? I am aware that a lot of stories, such as this from Sky News, have covered widespread use of blackmail in order to force the state workers to vote.

Please try to stay safe at this very difficult time. I can feel the pain of a democratic system in Venezuela dying before my eyes. Unity and Justice and Freedom is my main lifeline – that is to say that I deeply depend on them to flourish.
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Postby Neo Balka » Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:22 am

Minoa wrote:
Belkan America wrote:It's the day.

6:04 am in Venezuela.

Can you tell us how bad it is in the country? I am aware that a lot of stories, such as this from Sky News, have covered widespread use of blackmail in order to force the state workers to vote.

Please try to stay safe at this very difficult time. I can feel the pain of a democratic system in Venezuela dying before my eyes. Unity and Justice and Freedom is my main lifeline – that is to say that I deeply depend on them to flourish.


for christ's sake, dont be over dramatic.
The mere fact that i pissed someone off either means i stood for something or i said something offensive.
in this day and age it's both.
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Postby Minoa » Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:36 am

Neo Balka wrote:for christ's sake, dont be over dramatic.

I must advise that the events in Venezuela are not affecting my mental health, but it is sad to see the state of Venezuela nevertheless. Is there a better expression that I can use?

Meanwhile and on a lighter note … some disgruntled person tried to cancel Maduro’s ID card (Card of the Homeland).

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Postby Belkan America » Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:59 am

Neo Balka wrote:
Minoa wrote:Can you tell us how bad it is in the country? I am aware that a lot of stories, such as this from Sky News, have covered widespread use of blackmail in order to force the state workers to vote.

Please try to stay safe at this very difficult time. I can feel the pain of a democratic system in Venezuela dying before my eyes. Unity and Justice and Freedom is my main lifeline – that is to say that I deeply depend on them to flourish.


for christ's sake, dont be over dramatic.

No mate, he is right.

Minoa, not worry, i'm ok. Worrying that bad is not good for you beauty.
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Postby Lonograd » Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:34 pm

Just wanted to remind everyone that the controlled Venezuelan Opposition set a man on fire, but no lets go on how Maduro is an evil Commie Dictator and the only way to save Venezuela is to return to Neo-Liberal Polices and being a puppet of the United States.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:45 pm

Lonograd wrote:Just wanted to remind everyone that the controlled Venezuelan Opposition set a man on fire, but no lets go on how Maduro is an evil Commie Dictator and the only way to save Venezuela is to return to Neo-Liberal Polices and being a puppet of the United States.

Stop that. Now what you do is accept atrocities against the opposition with only the slimmest of evidence, and deny any atrocities by the opposition no matter what evidence you have. Any actual nuanced analysis is banned. Maduro is the evilest evil and he is oppressing The People. The opposition are angels with liberal democratic values. Their leaders were never involved with the US. They were never involved in the 2002 coup d'etat. Only a violent seizure of power and economic shock therapy can save Venezuela from the socialism that the government claims they do not have.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:33 pm

TFW 100 people die and you think one man being set on fire is the most vile thing to happen.
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Postby Belkan America » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:46 pm

Guys, you can't undestand the level of hate that i have to the PSUV.

Telling that the Constitutional will bring a undestanding between the government and the opposition. That the Constitutional will bring economic prosperity.

That the revolution (or as my grand dad calls it. Robolución (heh)) "saved" the middle class.

What a load of shit.

"Venezuela ha ganado".

Democracy has died here mah bois. Socialism has won and now the revolution is forever and ever. Viva Chavez!.

Coño. Me quiero matar.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:49 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:TFW 100 people die and you think one man being set on fire is the most vile thing to happen.

As if it's one man.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-40769737
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Postby Belkan America » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:52 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:TFW 100 people die and you think one man being set on fire is the most vile thing to happen.

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Postby Arlye Austros » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:52 pm

So today Venezuela went full *insert any dictator´s name here*. Nicely done, Micolás.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:54 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:TFW 100 people die and you think one man being set on fire is the most vile thing to happen.

As if it's one man.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-40769737

Why is the opposition to blame for all of this? One of their youth leaders died, read the first sentence.
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Postby Arlye Austros » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:55 pm

Belkan America wrote:Guys, you can't undestand the level of hate that i have to the PSUV.

Telling that the Constitutional will bring a undestanding between the government and the opposition. That the Constitutional will bring economic prosperity.

That the revolution (or as my grand dad calls it. Robolución (heh)) "saved" the middle class.

What a load of shit.

"Venezuela ha ganado".

Democracy has died here mah bois. Socialism has won and now the revolution is forever and ever. Viva Chavez!.

Coño. Me quiero matar.

Been paying attention. Based on vines and twits from last night and more news on today, including shootings and a bomb attack, just can say to stay safe. Hopefully freedom will comes soon, but it will need the MUD or some political organization, otherwise its just a power vacoom what follows.

Shame on the rest of this God-forsaken continent´s leaders.
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