Venezuela 2017

[G-Tech Corporation]

The original plan was to Play the Slow Game from what I've heard. They didn't go 1917 because they felt they couldn't, they're in America's backyard after all.

The slow route of revolution was originally Stalin's idea and its kinda obvious to see how that worked out.
The saying "go big or go home" works here. Give capital an inch, you might as well give them the whole damn planet all over again.

Funny, ye olde Socialism always seems to get stuck in neutral during the Cronyism, State Capitalism, and Dictatorship phases. One might almost speculate that such are the natural outcomes of Socialism.

[Minoa]

The slow route of revolution was originally Stalin's idea and its kinda obvious to see how that worked out.
The saying "go big or go home" works here. Give capital an inch, you might as well give them the whole damn planet all over again.

Funny, ye olde Socialism always seems to get stuck in neutral during the Cronyism, State Capitalism, and Dictatorship phases. One might almost speculate that such are the natural outcomes of Socialism.

I think it is mostly on the background of serious corruption: Venezuela never scored more than 28 in the Corruption Perceptions Index (since the first edition for 1995).


TI Corruption score Venezuela [CC0], by ZiaLater (Own work), from Wikimedia Commons

[G-Tech Corporation]

Funny, ye olde Socialism always seems to get stuck in neutral during the Cronyism, State Capitalism, and Dictatorship phases. One might almost speculate that such are the natural outcomes of Socialism.

I think it is mostly on the background of serious corruption: Venezuela never scored more than 28 in the Corruption Perceptions Index (since the first edition for 1995).


TI Corruption score Venezuela [CC0], by ZiaLater (Own work), from Wikimedia Commons

Aye, more than most, Socialism and voluntary economies rely on a lack of corruption and an incentivized population where no incentives exist. A bit of a flaw in the human condition, really.

[Minoa]

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-40667309

Both sides are claiming success in respect of yesterday's general strike.

Meanwhile, a senior diplomat for Venezuela at the UN has quit over human rights abuses, but the main ambassador says that he fired the senior diplomat for “acting dishonestly”.

[Minoa]

For the first time, one euro gets you at least 10,000 bolivars on the black market. As it stands it will not be long until $1 gets you 10,000 bolivars on the black market, which is 1000 times more than the DIPRO official rate.

[Herskerstad]

https://www.transparency.org/news/featu ... 2016#table

Venezuela now ranked the 10th most corrupt country in the world, and the most corrupt in South and Central America.

Huzzah for the socialist revolution.

[Washington Resistance Army]

https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2016#table

Venezuela now ranked the 10th most corrupt country in the world, and the most corrupt in South and Central America.

Huzzah for the socialist revolution.

Maduro be like

[Minoa]

For the record, the National Assembly made good on their promise to appoint their own team of Supreme Court Judges, who will be obviously anti-Maduro. Maduro’s Supreme Court has vowed retaliation, although they did not give details.

[Bakery Hill]

https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2016#table

Venezuela now ranked the 10th most corrupt country in the world, and the most corrupt in South and Central America.

Huzzah for the socialist revolution.

Number ten isn't great. But don't worry, if Minoa's graph is anything to go by, a return to capitalism will see it return to its glory days soon enough.

[Democratic Mongol Popular State]

https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2016#table

Venezuela now ranked the 10th most corrupt country in the world, and the most corrupt in South and Central America.

Huzzah for the socialist revolution.

Number ten isn't great. But don't worry, if Minoa's graph is anything to go by, a return to capitalism will see it return to its glory days soon enough.

Is there a version of this graph showing a longer pass of time? Looking at the red dotted line the downward turn would have started before the graph starts.

Not defending people who take people from poverty just to not have stuff to eat, but it interests me.

[Minoa]

Is there a version of this graph showing a longer pass of time? Looking at the red dotted line the downward turn would have started before the graph starts.

No, Transparency International only began ranking nations in 1996, for the year 1995.

[Democratic Mongol Popular State]

Is there a version of this graph showing a longer pass of time? Looking at the red dotted line the downward turn would have started before the graph starts.

No, Transparency International only began ranking nations in 1996, for the year 1995.

Ahh, pity.

[Rio Cana]

So some of you want to know about corruption in Venezuela.

Start reading this paper titled "Corruption in Ven. 101". For example in one part they explain that it seems that under a military government corruption was kept in the hands of few. When democracy hit Ven., everyone got involved in the corruption.

http://www.academia.edu/3012427/Corrupt ... Phenomenon

Corruption in Ven. from Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Venezuela

Edit - If you notice the poll numbers, it seems all the four options are quite close which could indicate that there is no clear answer on how to solve Ven. problems.

[G-Tech Corporation]

So some of you want to know about corruption in Venezuela.

Start reading this paper titled "Corruption in Ven. 101". For example in one part they explain that it seems that under a military government corruption was kept in the hands of few. When democracy hit Ven., everyone got involved in the corruption.

http://www.academia.edu/3012427/Corrupt ... Phenomenon

Corruption in Ven. from Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Venezuela

Seems that under a military government corruption was kept in the hands of few. When democracy hit Ven., everyone got involved in the corruption.

Edit - If you notice the poll numbers, it seems all the four options are quite close which could indicate that there is no clear answer on how to solve Ven. problems.

To be fair, the poll has no good solutions on it, so voting is more or less random.

[Jelmatt]

So some of you want to know about corruption in Venezuela.

Start reading this paper titled "Corruption in Ven. 101". For example in one part they explain that it seems that under a military government corruption was kept in the hands of few. When democracy hit Ven., everyone got involved in the corruption.

http://www.academia.edu/3012427/Corrupt ... Phenomenon

Corruption in Ven. from Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Venezuela

Seems that under a military government corruption was kept in the hands of few. When democracy hit Ven., everyone got involved in the corruption.

Edit - If you notice the poll numbers, it seems all the four options are quite close which could indicate that there is no clear answer on how to solve Ven. problems.

To be fair, the poll has no good solutions on it, so voting is more or less random.

And what would be a good option in Venezuela?

[Tectonix]

To be fair, the poll has no good solutions on it, so voting is more or less random.

And what would be a good option in Venezuela?

UN intervention at this point, if the National Assembly is not successful in changing up the Supreme Tribunal of Justice. Start off by recognising National Assembly as the legitimate government of Venezuela, and then imposing sanctions until Maduro and his regime collapse, in which case peacekeepers can come in and more or less stabilise the situation so the governor and presidential elections can take place.

I would add more nuance to this, but this is the essential gist.

[Herskerstad]

To be fair, the poll has no good solutions on it, so voting is more or less random.

And what would be a good option in Venezuela?

Rename it Trumpland.

Sell it to Trump. Take his call, he will laminate every street, and you'll take his call.

[Kvatchdom]

And what would be a good option in Venezuela?

Rename it Trumpland.

Sell it to Trump. Take his call, he will laminate every street, and you'll take his call.

From protesting to an absolute rebellion. Nice plan.

[Minoa]

Rename it Trumpland.

Sell it to Trump. Take his call, he will laminate every street, and you'll take his call.

From protesting to an absolute rebellion. Nice plan.

The ordinary people have become tired. What else does one expect when Maduro continues with pushing for the Constituent Assembly? What else does one expect when police respond to the protests by injuring a violist, as they have done to others for nearly four months?

[Rio Cana]

I found an article which really explains the political situation in Ven. And what solutions are available. Article is titled " Maduro can go, but Venezuela’s instability is here to stay". -
https://www.macrogeo.global/analysis/ma ... is-here-t/

[Minoa]

I found an article which really explains the political situation in Ven. And what solutions are available. Article is titled " Maduro can go, but Venezuela’s instability is here to stay". -
https://www.macrogeo.global/analysis/ma ... is-here-t/

I think, from the article, that the longer Maduro stays, the more unstable Venezuela will end up becoming.

[Kvatchdom]

From protesting to an absolute rebellion. Nice plan.

The ordinary people have become tired. What else does one expect when Maduro continues with pushing for the Constituent Assembly? What else does one expect when police respond to the protests by injuring a violist, as they have done to others for nearly four months?

So you're saying they want Trump to take over the country and be colonised again? I somehow doubt they'd be very enthusiastic about that. My point was that the person I was responding to had a ludicrous plan that would lead to much, much more violence.

[Costa Fierro]

I found an article which really explains the political situation in Ven. And what solutions are available. Article is titled " Maduro can go, but Venezuela’s instability is here to stay". -
https://www.macrogeo.global/analysis/ma ... is-here-t/

I think, from the article, that the longer Maduro stays, the more unstable Venezuela will end up becoming.

The current situation will only get worse, sure. But if he goes, it won't go away. The economy is pretty much non-functioning at this point, corruption is rampant and institutional, the currency is worthless, crime is skyrocketing and the healthcare system is collapsing. They will continue to affect Venezuela for the forseeable future.

[Minoa]

The ordinary people have become tired. What else does one expect when Maduro continues with pushing for the Constituent Assembly? What else does one expect when police respond to the protests by injuring a violist, as they have done to others for nearly four months?

So you're saying they want Trump to take over the country and be colonised again? I somehow doubt they'd be very enthusiastic about that. My point was that the person I was responding to had a ludicrous plan that would lead to much, much more violence.

The opposition also involves Social Democrats. Virtually all but the populist and far left, if I can recall correctly.

[Great Minarchistan]

So you're saying they want Trump to take over the country and be colonised again? I somehow doubt they'd be very enthusiastic about that. My point was that the person I was responding to had a ludicrous plan that would lead to much, much more violence.

The opposition also involves Social Democrats. Virtually all but the populist and far left, if I can recall correctly.

Ahhhh, I'd love to see another poor south american country trying socdem. Tastes like failure.