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Posted: **Sun May 21, 2017 4:52 pm**

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Sorry son, you're probably getting Lula.

a lot too like, little too dislike. " Sorry son, you're probably getting Lula" Yuck. Venezuela needs a military coup d'état against the current military leaders.

That was already done before, luckily the democratically elected government of Venezuela was restored to power. Hopefully the country will not be a servant of US imperialism like it was before Chavez and the PSUV.

Posted: **Sun May 21, 2017 9:55 pm**

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Sorry son, you're probably getting Lula.

a lot too like, little too dislike. " Sorry son, you're probably getting Lula" Yuck. Venezuela needs a military coup d'état against the current military leaders.

Military coups usually make things worse in these situations. Right now, Venezuela is in transition to a dictatorship. Having a military coup would just complete that transition.

Posted: **Sun May 21, 2017 10:11 pm**

Lonograd wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:
a lot too like, little too dislike. " Sorry son, you're probably getting Lula" Yuck. Venezuela needs a military coup d'état against the current military leaders.

That was already done before, luckily the democratically elected government of Venezuela was restored to power. Hopefully the country will not be a servant of US imperialism like it was before Chavez and the PSUV.

No matter what the Bolivarian Constitution says. No matter what amendments Maduro makes to the constitution. Venezuela is dictatorship government, That calls itself the Bolivarian Revolution, as in permanent for life. Yes just like the Cuban government, that supports it. According to this lady:

Aura Sanchinelli, Guatemalan, Italian psychic, married to a Cuban, Maduro will be taken out by the people around May, June or July 2017.[/quote]

She dosent say it my way, but I think that is the way she means it, the only way it can happen.

So here we go again, Chavez is dead, Maduro is in power. Venezuela needs a military coup d'état against the current military leaders. Cause the current government supported by the current military leaders will never respect multi political party elections. It calls itself the Bolivarian Revolution, as in permanent for life. And yes, just like the Cuban government in Cuba. As long as Maduro has the backing of the military leaders, there will be no democratic solutions in Venezuela. And yes just like the Cuban government in Cuba. The military leaders can replace Maduro with anyone else and nothing will change in Venezuela. Just like in Cuba

Unless the Military leaders depose Maduro and really allow multi political party elections. The only thing we can hope for, is if the military or part of the military refuses to fire on the people. In affect a military coup d'état against the current military leaders.

Posted: **Mon May 22, 2017 4:24 am**

Bakery Hill wrote:
Secundus Imperium Romanum wrote:I am liberal, but the right is growing ABSURD
In the north and northeast region, which past elections more than 95% of the population voted in the Socialists, is turning into a stronghold of right-wing and highly conservative parties

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jair_Bolsonaro Our future president in 2018, our beloved brazilian trump

Sorry son, you're probably getting Lula.

He is being investigated for 12 corruption cases, so no.

Posted: **Mon May 22, 2017 4:45 am**

Secundus Imperium Romanum wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Sorry son, you're probably getting Lula.

He is being investigated for 12 corruption cases, so no.

Haha good joke fam.

Posted: **Mon May 22, 2017 2:33 pm**

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Lonograd wrote:That was already done before, luckily the democratically elected government of Venezuela was restored to power. Hopefully the country will not be a servant of US imperialism like it was before Chavez and the PSUV.

No matter what the Bolivarian Constitution says. No matter what amendments Maduro makes to the constitution. Venezuela is dictatorship government, That calls itself the Bolivarian Revolution, as in permanent for life. Yes just like the Cuban government, that supports it. According to this lady:

Aura Sanchinelli, Guatemalan, Italian psychic, married to a Cuban, Maduro will be taken out by the people around May, June or July 2017.

She dosent say it my way, but I think that is the way she means it, the only way it can happen.

So here we go again, Chavez is dead, Maduro is in power. Venezuela needs a military coup d'état against the current military leaders. Cause the current government supported by the current military leaders will never respect multi political party elections. It calls itself the Bolivarian Revolution, as in permanent for life. And yes, just like the Cuban government in Cuba. As long as Maduro has the backing of the military leaders, there will be no democratic solutions in Venezuela. And yes just like the Cuban government in Cuba. The military leaders can replace Maduro with anyone else and nothing will change in Venezuela. Just like in Cuba

Unless the Military leaders depose Maduro and really allow multi political party elections. The only thing we can hope for, is if the military or part of the military refuses to fire on the people. In affect a military coup d'état against the current military leaders.

A military coup will end in a dictatorship as much as Maduro's centralization of power will. The only way I can see Venezuela becoming democratic is if an amendment is somehow forced through to strictly curtail presidential powers and empower parliament. That's unlikely to happen. What I'm saying is, I'm very pessimistic about Venezuela, politically.

Posted: **Mon May 22, 2017 2:51 pm**

Secundus Imperium Romanum wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Sorry son, you're probably getting Lula.

He is being investigated for 12 corruption cases, so no.

I'm not a Brazilian, but isn't he fairly popular despite all that?

Posted: **Mon May 22, 2017 4:15 pm**

Major-Tom wrote:
Secundus Imperium Romanum wrote:He is being investigated for 12 corruption cases, so no.

I'm not a Brazilian, but isn't he fairly popular despite all that?

Yes. He won back his popularity. Its government was a good time for economy and social development; Moreover, the widespread thought that everybody is corrupt has put him on an equal footing with competition...

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2017 6:55 am**

Bakery Hill wrote:
Secundus Imperium Romanum wrote:He is being investigated for 12 corruption cases, so no.

Haha good joke fam.

In fact about 90% of all politicians in the national congress, including the vice president who created an impeachment against the socialist Dilma Roussef is being investigated, are literally bandits cheating bandits and dumb people rather than unite, they are arguing who stole less, BRAZIL LITERALLY SPOILED, I CAN NOT AGREE MORE

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2017 6:58 am**

Major-Tom wrote:
Secundus Imperium Romanum wrote:He is being investigated for 12 corruption cases, so no.

I'm not a Brazilian, but isn't he fairly popular despite all that?

During his tenure, he created many (socialist) programs and turned Brazil into a pseudo-socialist state (he was president of the metallurgical union), which attracted many poor but destroyed the country, now it is being investigated and socialists claim that this is a "coup d'état"

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2017 10:56 am**

Secundus Imperium Romanum wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
I'm not a Brazilian, but isn't he fairly popular despite all that?

During his tenure, he created many (socialist) programs and turned Brazil into a pseudo-socialist state (he was president of the metallurgical union), which attracted many poor but destroyed the country, now it is being investigated and socialists claim that this is a "coup d'état"

wow, lol, I just found this, so it seems to be from Lulu: I visited capitalist Caracas Venezuela one year before Chavez took power. A family member of mine and his family, emigrated legally from Cuba to Venezuela. Who told me in a letter, get me, my wife and two sons the hell out of Cuba, before my two sons reach military age, and are indoctrinated. I helped them financially while they were there. Rented an apartment for them while they were there. Once got swindled for $ 10,000 dollars, trying to help them emigrate anywhere, by an Argentinian in Miami. A relative of mine, was a former Cuban political prisoner in Cuba, who founded a house to help former Cuban political prisoners and other immigrants, emigrating legally from Cuba to Venezuela. The house is named after him. I donated a $ 1,000 dollars to the house, in thanks for their help in getting my family the Hell out of the Socialist Communist Paradise Island nation of Cuba, many of my fellow nationstaters seem to think it is, and support. But that is their right to do so. Been trying to find out without success, if the house is still operating.

Years later while we were all on vacation in Punta Cana, Dominican Republic, we met a nice Venezuelan family, we spent some time with. They were so sure they would get rid of Maduro with elections and such. The one who lived in Venezuela told them, that will not happen, it is a dictatorship government for life, just like in Cuba.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/07/opini ... chavez.htm

Fidel, Raúl, President of Brazil, Lula da Silva, at Fidel's capitalist house with swimming pool in Cuba. While preaching socialism and sacrifices to the people. Part of my LHC Cuba's Life Styles of the Rich Socialists RP thread.

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2017 11:32 am**

Opposition demonstrators attack maternity hospital, killing 53
https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/13135

Come on Maduro, send in the tanks and crush these American puppets.

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2017 12:15 pm**

Serkia wrote:Opposition demonstrators attack maternity hospital, killing 53
https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/13135

Come on Maduro, send in the tanks and crush these American puppets.

Bullshit. Cite a real source or sit down.

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2017 12:16 pm**

Serkia wrote:Opposition demonstrators attack maternity hospital, killing 53
https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/13135

Come on Maduro, send in the tanks and crush these American puppets.

Teh soviets arrr puppets of the amerikaskies.

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2017 12:28 pm**

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Serkia wrote:Opposition demonstrators attack maternity hospital, killing 53
https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/13135

Come on Maduro, send in the tanks and crush these American puppets.

Bullshit. Cite a real source or sit down.

From a leftist site. Must be about Cuban doctors helping the people, while the Cuban government pays the Cuban doctors poorly. Keeping most of the money. Fidel and Raúl, living like rich Capitalist Socialists, while preaching socialism and sacrifices to the people. Thanks for the anti post G-Tech Corp.

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2017 12:29 pm**

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Serkia wrote:Opposition demonstrators attack maternity hospital, killing 53
https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/13135

Come on Maduro, send in the tanks and crush these American puppets.

Bullshit. Cite a real source or sit down.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... 179142.ece

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04 ... eath-toll/

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/21 ... tal-attack

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/A ... -0001.html

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2017 12:35 pm**

Serkia wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Bullshit. Cite a real source or sit down.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... 179142.ece

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04 ... eath-toll/

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/21 ... tal-attack

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/A ... -0001.html

“No April 11, never again.” No multi political party elections ever again. The Bolivarian Revolution for life, just like in Cuba, that is the problem.

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2017 12:36 pm**

Serkia wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Bullshit. Cite a real source or sit down.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... 179142.ece

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04 ... eath-toll/

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/04/21 ... tal-attack

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/A ... -0001.html

Exactly which one of those sources was supposed to back up your claim? Because none of them do, in case reading comprehension is faltering.

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2017 12:47 pm**

Looks like Venezuela needs some American freedom, maybe after that, Cuba could need an American intervention. Then the whole continent would be free from the socialist rats.

Posted: **Wed May 24, 2017 6:01 am**

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Secundus Imperium Romanum wrote:During his tenure, he created many (socialist) programs and turned Brazil into a pseudo-socialist state (he was president of the metallurgical union), which attracted many poor but destroyed the country, now it is being investigated and socialists claim that this is a "coup d'état"

wow, lol, I just found this, so it seems to be from Lulu: I visited capitalist Caracas Venezuela one year before Chavez took power. A family member of mine and his family, emigrated legally from Cuba to Venezuela. Who told me in a letter, get me, my wife and two sons the hell out of Cuba, before my two sons reach military age, and are indoctrinated. I helped them financially while they were there. Rented an apartment for them while they were there. Once got swindled for $ 10,000 dollars, trying to help them emigrate anywhere, by an Argentinian in Miami. A relative of mine, was a former Cuban political prisoner in Cuba, who founded a house to help former Cuban political prisoners and other immigrants, emigrating legally from Cuba to Venezuela. The house is named after him. I donated a $ 1,000 dollars to the house, in thanks for their help in getting my family the Hell out of the Socialist Communist Paradise Island nation of Cuba, many of my fellow nationstaters seem to think it is, and support. But that is their right to do so. Been trying to find out without success, if the house is still operating.

Years later while we were all on vacation in Punta Cana, Dominican Republic, we met a nice Venezuelan family, we spent some time with. They were so sure they would get rid of Maduro with elections and such. The one who lived in Venezuela told them, that will not happen, it is a dictatorship government for life, just like in Cuba.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/07/opini ... chavez.htm

Fidel, Raúl, President of Brazil, Lula da Silva, at Fidel's capitalist house with swimming pool in Cuba. While preaching socialism and sacrifices to the people. Part of my LHC Cuba's Life Styles of the Rich Socialists RP thread.

In his government, he literally built ONE PORT for Cuba, he spent more than 4 billion dollars while the country was experiencing an economic crisis, and people like him

Posted: **Wed May 24, 2017 9:06 am**

is regime support hilarious or what, are there real statements amongst them

Posted: **Wed May 24, 2017 9:11 am**

Surkiea wrote:Looks like Venezuela needs some American freedom, maybe after that, Cuba could need an American intervention. Then the whole continent would be free from the socialist rats.

Been there, done that, the dickheads you installed in our governments kidnapped, tortured and killed thousands of their own people, and we sure didn't get any "American freedom" in exchange. Just more tyranny with American training.

Posted: **Wed May 24, 2017 9:50 am**

Surkiea wrote:Looks like Venezuela needs some American freedom, maybe after that, Cuba could need an American intervention. Then the whole continent would be free from the socialist rats.

Yo, Troll, you want fries with that?.

Posted: **Wed May 24, 2017 9:52 am**

Major-Tom wrote:
Secundus Imperium Romanum wrote:He is being investigated for 12 corruption cases, so no.

I'm not a Brazilian, but isn't he fairly popular despite all that?

Yeah, because he created a keynesian bubble so from 2006 to 2010 (his 2nd term) everything was walking alrighty. Then came Dilma, which enjoyed 2011 hype but started to suffer in 2012. Now that we've got someone who's trying to fix the country Lula comes back. *sigh*

Posted: **Wed May 24, 2017 1:10 pm**

Liriena wrote:
Surkiea wrote:Looks like Venezuela needs some American freedom, maybe after that, Cuba could need an American intervention. Then the whole continent would be free from the socialist rats.

Been there, done that, the dickheads you installed in our governments kidnapped, tortured and killed thousands of their own people, and we sure didn't get any "American freedom" in exchange. Just more tyranny with American training.

Not to mention the tyranny of Fidel, Raúl, Chavez and Maduro against their own people. It is hard to argue with you. Love those cute little dogs you keep putting on your nation's flag, nice.

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