Venezuela 2017

[Liriena]

I think it's time America liberates that Communist Hellhole.

First of all, Venezuela is most definitely not "communist".
Second of all, South America already had enough of your anti-communist interventions in our countries. It never ends well, and it doesn't improve our general opinion of your nation one bit. Rein in your imperialist impulses for once, and let us sort this crap out on our own terms.

[Surkiea]

I think it's time America liberates that Communist Hellhole.

First of all, Venezuela is most definitely not "communist".
Second of all, South America already had enough of your anti-communist interventions in our countries. It never ends well, and it doesn't improve our general opinion of your nation one bit. Rein in your imperialist impulses for once, and let us sort this crap out on our own terms.

Second, South America should be thankful to the U.S. for saving it from becoming a continent of death and misery. The only regret the U.S. should have is not liberating Cuba from those evil parasites known as the Castro Brothers.

[Liriena]

First of all, Venezuela is most definitely not "communist".
Second of all, South America already had enough of your anti-communist interventions in our countries. It never ends well, and it doesn't improve our general opinion of your nation one bit. Rein in your imperialist impulses for once, and let us sort this crap out on our own terms.

The association fallacy is still a fallacy.
Obama took a picture with Raúl Castro once. Is he a communist too?

Second, South America should be thankful to the U.S. for saving it from becoming a continent of death and misery. The only regret the U.S. should have is not liberating Cuba from those evil parasites known as the Castro Brothers.

Your historical illiteracy and blind submission to reactionary indoctrination is duly noted.

The only thing American interventionism saved us from was inconveniencing American economic interests and not caving into the same anti-leftist paranoia. And in exchange for that, thousands of innocent people were kidnapped, tortured and murdered by our own governments, with American support, our economies were generally left in shambles for the benefit of foreign economic interests, and to this day we still have to deal with the consequences of a whole century of democracy being repeatedly taken away from us when the will of the people inconvenienced the powerful.

No. Thanks.

If you want to play saviors of the world, go and invade yourselves. Why, with all the filthy anti-democratic cussery going on in some of your states, I think you are way overdue for a military "liberation".

[Washington Resistance Army]

Obama took a picture with Raúl Castro once. Is he a communist too?

If you believe Fox, probably.

[Liriena]

Obama took a picture with Raúl Castro once. Is he a communist too?

If you believe Fox, probably.

I heard Obama shared a Kit-Kat bar once. Total Marxist out to take our toothbrushes.

[Major-Tom]

If you believe Fox, probably.

I heard Obama shared a Kit-Kat bar once. Total Marxist out to take our toothbrushes.

in fairness, why the fuck would anyone share a kit kat. they're fucking divine. if anyone takes part of my kit kat, i will exercise the right to justifiable homicide.

[Liriena]

I heard Obama shared a Kit-Kat bar once. Total Marxist out to take our toothbrushes.

in fairness, why the fuck would anyone share a kit kat. they're fucking divine. if anyone takes part of my kit kat, i will exercise the right to justifiable homicide.

I'll confess that I've never eaten a Kit Kat. Like, I've had the McFlurry with Kit Kat bits, but not a full Kit Kat on its own. I am ashamed.

[Major-Tom]

in fairness, why the fuck would anyone share a kit kat. they're fucking divine. if anyone takes part of my kit kat, i will exercise the right to justifiable homicide.

I'll confess that I've never eaten a Kit Kat. Like, I've had the McFlurry with Kit Kat bits, but not a full Kit Kat on its own. I am ashamed.

log off the forum and get yourself a fucking kit kat. get back to me in a few hours.

[Aboim]

Sorry. But no hue allowed. Let's make Colombia great again instead.

But french fry in Colombia is mango

[Erutenia]

Sorry. But no hue allowed. Let's make Colombia great again instead.

:-(

Aw fuck, i forgot about that. They're selling those outside my school.

[Serkia]

Venezuela is the perfect example of why democratic "socialism" doesn't work in third-world countries.

[Costa Fierro]

Rein in your imperialist impulses for once, and let us sort this crap out on our own terms.

And you really think Venezuela has what it takes to come to a solution that doesn't involve the potential for mass violence? Because we have the people versus a government that has the backing of the military and the national guard and armed militias (well criminals paid off by the government to shoot opposition protesters). I don't think South America has what it takes to sort this out given they've let it get this bad in the first place.

[Secundus Imperium Romanum]

I am liberal, but the right is growing ABSURD
In the north and northeast region, which past elections more than 95% of the population voted in the Socialists, is turning into a stronghold of right-wing and highly conservative parties

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jair_Bolsonaro Our future president in 2018, our beloved brazilian trump

Nonetheless to say, the libertarian community is growing quickly.

YAY!

[Aboim]

Well, Maduro will initiate a National Constitutional Assembly to change the Venezuelan Constitution. This Assembly, however, will not be elected through direct vote. Half of the chairs will be chosen by the communal body, parts of Maduro’s party structure, a type of venezuelan soviet.

http://internacional.elpais.com/interna ... 87716.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/th ... 8fabe8516e
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/01/worl ... ution.html

[G-Tech Corporation]

Well, Maduro will initiate a National Constitutional Assembly to change the Venezuelan Constitution. This Assembly, however, will not be elected through direct vote. Half of the chairs will be chosen by the communal body, parts of Maduro’s party structure, a type of venezuelan soviet.

http://internacional.elpais.com/interna ... 87716.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/th ... 8fabe8516e
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/01/worl ... ution.html

A coup by any other name...

[Baltenstein]

Well, Maduro will initiate a National Constitutional Assembly to change the Venezuelan Constitution. This Assembly, however, will not be elected through direct vote. Half of the chairs will be chosen by the communal body, parts of Maduro’s party structure, a type of venezuelan soviet.

http://internacional.elpais.com/interna ... 87716.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/th ... 8fabe8516e
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/01/worl ... ution.html

Maduro should officially make Simon Bolivar's ghost the sole and absolute ruler of the country and appoint himself as its acting mouthpiece.


It wouldn't make things any worse than they already are.

[Aboim]

A coup by any other name...

Not yet. People is defined as voter by Chavez's Constitution, not an organization, a bolivarian gentleman's club, or something like that.

Like the case Maduro vs. Congress, when the Chief prosecutor reacted against Supreme Court, someone could contest the lawfulness of Maduro's voter. It's Word of Chavez, after all.

Maduro should officially make Simon Bolivar's ghost the sole and absolute ruler of the country and appoint himself as its acting mouthpiece.


It wouldn't make things any worse than they already are.

The bird possessed by Hugo Chavez is already the sole and absolute ruler of the country with Maduro as seer

[Secundus Imperium Romanum]

Well, Maduro will initiate a National Constitutional Assembly to change the Venezuelan Constitution. This Assembly, however, will not be elected through direct vote. Half of the chairs will be chosen by the communal body, parts of Maduro’s party structure, a type of venezuelan soviet.

http://internacional.elpais.com/interna ... 87716.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/th ... 8fabe8516e
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/01/worl ... ution.html

This constitution will only officialize a socialist state, which neither with Erdogan with his plebiscite that makes him dictator. In the end Venezuela will become a new vat or a northern korea, only more destroyed.

[Aboim]

Venezuela indigenous group flees crisis for Brazil

Around 400 indigenous Warao people from the Orinoco Delta in Venezuela have arrived in the Brazilian city of Manaus in the Amazon.

According to the Brazilian Ministry of Justice more than 5,400 Venezuelans have requested visas and permission to stay in the country.

Both Roraima and Amazonas states, which border on Venezuela, have reported many more people coming across looking for basic food goods, medicine and temporary jobs.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-39852877
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/th ... 476430f67d

[Greater Miami Shores]

I have not been really paying attention to our neighbor to our South. But lately, they have been printing in newspapers and showing on tv the latest street protests against the government of Maduro. Also, they have showed Maduros supporters having rallies in support of the government. So I decided to catch up on news on Venezuela. In March, the Ven. Supreme Court dissolved the Ven. Congress which has been controlled by the opposition since early 2016. So Maduro now has most of the power. This explains why the supporters of the opposition are protesting in the streets since the balance of power has tilted toward the Pres..

Going back, before the oil price collapse, Ven. was chugging along with its social programs which were effective when it came to the have nots. They are still giving people who cannot afford a new home, free homes. However, with oil down, the government cannot continue to afford these gran social projects. When it comes to imports. Ven. relies on imports for many things. But there monetary mess, devaluation and running out of money means they cannot afford to import most basic items.

Found an article from Colombian writer Mauricio Cabrera Galvis. He seems to have hit it on the nose what is Ven. main problem. He says its economical. That without solutions to the economy that the political problems cannot be solved. He points out that in Ven. neithier the government or the opposition which controlled the congress ever came up with a plan to deal with the economy which explains why the congress got forcibly dissolved by the supreme court. The writer concludes that neithier Maduro, the dissolved Congress or the 28 opposition political parties (which agree on tossing Maduro out) want to declare any austerity plan since it will mean instant political destruction.

So I think he is right. None of the political parties including the government wants to touch this hot potato which would mean angry voters getting really angry because of tough austerity plans. In the meantime, there foreign reserves keep going down and down. So what do you think NS.

This will take you to Mauricio Cabrera Galvis article but its in Spanish - http://www.portafolio.co/opinion/mauric ... 017-504885

No matter what the Bolivarian constitution says. No matter what amendments Nicolas Maduro makes to the Bolivarian constitution. The government of Venezuela is a dictatorship government. Calls itself the revolution as in permanent, for life, just like the government of Cuba. The opposition is operating within that dictatorship's fake democratic trappings and process. There cant be any democratic negotiations or solutions with Nicolas Maduro. As long as the military backs up Maduro, he will stay in power.

According to this lady:

Aura Sanchinelli, Guatemalan, Italian psychic, married to a Cuban, Maduro will be taken out by the people around May, June or July 2017.

[Minoa]

Source: http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-venezu ... KKCN18G0WU

It is now 50 days since the most intense wave of protests broke out, and the fact that it hasn't waned says a lot about how desperate Nicolas Maduro has become to stay in power, whatever it takes. To call a Constitutional Assembly without the opposition, however, is pretty much the last straw for many civilians, who are exasperated from shortages, crime, corruption and growing repression (particularly by SEBIN).

[Bakery Hill]

The opposition in Venezuela is mediocre like most of the liberal pro business parties in latinoamerica, that's why a charismatic putschist like Chavéz won the elections two times (and now he even has a tv series). They will end like Brazil or Argentina, maybe worst since they are an oil dependant nation without industry.

I am liberal, but the right is growing ABSURD
In the north and northeast region, which past elections more than 95% of the population voted in the Socialists, is turning into a stronghold of right-wing and highly conservative parties

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jair_Bolsonaro Our future president in 2018, our beloved brazilian trump

Sorry son, you're probably getting Lula.

[Bakery Hill]

a type of venezuelan soviet.

Finally.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I am liberal, but the right is growing ABSURD
In the north and northeast region, which past elections more than 95% of the population voted in the Socialists, is turning into a stronghold of right-wing and highly conservative parties

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jair_Bolsonaro Our future president in 2018, our beloved brazilian trump

Sorry son, you're probably getting Lula.

a lot too like, little too dislike. " Sorry son, you're probably getting Lula" Yuck. Venezuela needs a military coup d'état against the current military leaders.

[Bakery Hill]

Sorry son, you're probably getting Lula.

a lot too like, little too dislike. " Sorry son, you're probably getting Lula" Yuck. Venezuela needs a military coup d'état against the current military leaders.

Are you OK?