O'Reilly is out

[Telconi]

Well your suspicion and personal opinion is quite literally a defining example of "unfounded judgement".

It's not unfounded to think that he might assault women based on the fact that he beat his own wife. That's not something I'm making up he lost custody because of it.

No-one is pulling ad revenue because he "might have" he was very specifically accused of specific acts. If you think his custody case lends those accusations credibility, then you're foolish.

Reminder: You will be held responsible to any damage caused by your un-authorized relocation of the goalposts.

[Grave_n_idle]

He's doing the job Fox hired him to do, to you that's being a "hateful, lying, partisan hack", but mostly you just don't share his views.

Nope.

I'm not saying that he's hateful because I don't share his views, but because I've watched how he interviews people.

I'm not saying he's partisan because I don't share his views, but because he absolutely toes an ideological line - he will misrepresent news that doesn't fit his political view. That's partisanship.

And - to be honest - i wouldn't even mind the partisanship so much if he didn't keep making such a big fuss about how unbiased he is.

I don't go around calling on MSNBC to fire Rachel Maddow do I?

I don't know, do you?

And - bad choice - of all the MSNBC hosts, you picked Maddow?

But what does that have to do with it? A) I didn't call for O'Reilly to be fired, and B) We're talking about O'Reilly and Fox. Not MSNBC.

[Thermodolia]

It's not unfounded to think that he might assault women based on the fact that he beat his own wife. That's not something I'm making up he lost custody because of it.

No-one is pulling ad revenue because he "might have" he was very specifically accused of specific acts. If you think his custody case lends those accusations credibility, then you're foolish.

Reminder: You will be held responsible to any damage caused by your un-authorized relocation of the goalposts.

What I'm not moving any goalposts. I'm just saying that it's possible, he has a proven pattern of abuse towards women.

[Telconi]

He's doing the job Fox hired him to do, to you that's being a "hateful, lying, partisan hack", but mostly you just don't share his views.

Nope.

I'm not saying that he's hateful because I don't share his views, but because I've watched how he interviews people.

I'm not saying he's partisan because I don't share his views, but because he absolutely toes an ideological line - he will misrepresent news that doesn't fit his political view. That's partisanship.

And - to be honest - i wouldn't even mind the partisanship so much if he didn't keep making such a big fuss about how unbiased he is.

I don't go around calling on MSNBC to fire Rachel Maddow do I?

I don't know, do you?

And - bad choice - of all the MSNBC hosts, you picked Maddow?

But what does that have to do with it? A) I didn't call for O'Reilly to be fired, and B) We're talking about O'Reilly and Fox. Not MSNBC.

I could have picked any of them, they all hate me, they all support a partisan agenda, and they have all lied and all will again. You said he "should have been fired" which I shall re-state my comparison, 'I don't go telling people that Rachel Maddow should be fired do I?'

[Thermodolia]

It's official. He's been let go. Bill O'Reilly out at Fox News
http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/19/media/b ... index.html

[Neutraligon]

It's official. He's been let go. Bill O'Reilly out at Fox News
http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/19/media/b ... index.html

You beat me, hell that is a change.

[Thermodolia]

It's official. He's been let go. Bill O'Reilly out at Fox News
http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/19/media/b ... index.html

You beat me, hell that is a change.

On my phone. CNN pops up

[Arcturus Novus]

Oh well. So long, Bill, I will not miss you.

[Internationalist Bastard]

His next book, Killing my Carer

[Grave_n_idle]

I could have picked any of them, they all hate me,

They hate you?

That sounds egotistical. Do they even know you?

.... they all support a partisan agenda,

Maybe. Not entirely objecting to partisanship.

There's always some bias when one person communicates and idea to another person - the question is what you do with it. Do you flavour the anecdote with your perspective? That's okay. Do you leave out disadvantageous details? That's not good. Do you literally lie? That's bad.

You said he "should have been fired" which I shall re-state my comparison, 'I don't go telling people that Rachel Maddow should be fired do I?'

Why are you pretending there's a comparison?

Maddow is actually a pretty good journalist, while O'Reilly has been pulling this kind of crap for decades.

[Telconi]

I could have picked any of them, they all hate me,

They hate you?

That sounds egotistical. Do they even know you?

.... they all support a partisan agenda,

Maybe. Not entirely objecting to partisanship.

There's always some bias when one person communicates and idea to another person - the question is what you do with it. Do you flavour the anecdote with your perspective? That's okay. Do you leave out disadvantageous details? That's not good. Do you literally lie? That's bad.

You said he "should have been fired" which I shall re-state my comparison, 'I don't go telling people that Rachel Maddow should be fired do I?'

Why are you pretending there's a comparison?

Maddow is actually a pretty good journalist, while O'Reilly has been pulling this kind of crap for decades.

Hatred isn't predicated upon personal knowledge, unless you believe all white supremacists personally know every non-white person.



They all do each of these things when it suits them.



Because there is.

[Grave_n_idle]

They all do each of these things when it suits them.

Because there is.

Ah. The false equivalency thing... yeah, there's not going to be any point discussing this.

[Telconi]

They all do each of these things when it suits them.

Because there is.

Ah. The false equivalency thing... yeah, there's not going to be any point discussing this.

Ah, the "My opinion is more valuable than yours" thing. Yeah, you're right. There won't be a point.

[Trotskylvania]

His next book, Killing my Carer

Post of the thread here

[Major-Tom]

He's an ass, serves him right.

[Saiwania]

I do think I'd be in favor of Rachel Maddow being fired from MSNBC. She is devoting too much air time to Russia. She sees Russian conspiracies around every corner and is neglecting everything else that can be talked about on her show. Isn't her audience growing bored of it? If Maddow got replaced, I'm sure it'd be because she's a poor ratings performer. To my knowledge, she doesn't do anything scandalous like O'Reilly except be lesbian. Not sure why she dyed her hair from blonde (which is supposedly her natural hair color) but I guess that is her business.

[Smernosh Smercova]

This is amazing. A true victory for diversity and tolerance. Down with the bigots!

[Smernosh Smercova]

I do think I'd be in favor of Rachel Maddow being fired from MSNBC. She is devoting too much air time to Russia. She sees Russian conspiracies around every corner and is neglecting everything else that can be talked about on her show. Isn't her audience growing bored of it? If Maddow got replaced, I'm sure it'd be because she's a poor ratings performer. To my knowledge, she doesn't do anything scandalous like O'Reilly except be lesbian. Not sure why she dyed her hair from blonde (which is supposedly her natural hair color) but I guess that is her business.

Maddow should stay, as she is a woman. She reports on Russia a lot because the Russians helped elect Donald Trump.

[Internationalist Bastard]

I do think I'd be in favor of Rachel Maddow being fired from MSNBC. She is devoting too much air time to Russia. She sees Russian conspiracies around every corner and is neglecting everything else that can be talked about on her show. Isn't her audience growing bored of it? If Maddow got replaced, I'm sure it'd be because she's a poor ratings performer. To my knowledge, she doesn't do anything scandalous like O'Reilly except be lesbian. Not sure why she dyed her hair from blonde (which is supposedly her natural hair color) but I guess that is her business.

This is about a man being fired for sexual harassment, not women getting fired because you don't like her

[United Muscovite Nations]

It's official. He's been let go. Bill O'Reilly out at Fox News
http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/19/media/b ... index.html

I mean, I didn't like him, but, holy shit, this is really huge cultural news. The man was an icon of tv. There really hasn't been as big of a shakeup in entertainment since Jon Stewart retired.

[Saiwania]

Maddow should stay, as she is a woman. She reports on Russia a lot because the Russians helped elect Donald Trump.

If Hillary Clinton ran a better campaign, no amount of Russian help would've ensured a Donald Trump victory. Russia is being used as an excuse more than anything else. There were at least dozens of other missteps by Democrats that played out in Trump's favor.

So far as the decision to fire O'Reilly goes, there are just 3 key people who run 21st Century Fox, you have the father Rupert Murdoch along with the two sons- James and Lachlan. Rupert wanted to somehow keep O'Reilly, while James and Lachlan didn't see the issues with O'Reilly ever going away and recognized that he had to be let go. Fox News is in a bad place with no obvious star to replace O'Reilly. Morale at the station is low.

[Smernosh Smercova]

Maddow should stay, as she is a woman. She reports on Russia a lot because the Russians helped elect Donald Trump.

If Hillary Clinton ran a better campaign, no amount of Russian help would've ensured a Donald Trump victory. Russia is being used as an excuse more than anything else. There were at least dozens of other missteps by Democrats that played out in Trump's favor.

So far as the decision to fire O'Reilly goes, there are just 3 key people who run 21st Century Fox, you have the father Rupert Murdoch along with the two sons- James and Lachlan. Rupert wanted to somehow keep O'Reilly, while James and Lachlan didn't see the issues with O'Reilly ever going away and recognized that he had to be let go. Fox News is in a bad place with no obvious star to replace O'Reilly. Morale at the station is low.

No, Russia was the key factor in Hillary's loss. Had it not been for the media's overwhelmingly negative coverage of her emails, she would've won.

[Major-Tom]

This is amazing. A true victory for diversity and tolerance. Down with the bigots!

You're a satirical account, I reckon, yes?

[Valgora]

If Hillary Clinton ran a better campaign, no amount of Russian help would've ensured a Donald Trump victory. Russia is being used as an excuse more than anything else. There were at least dozens of other missteps by Democrats that played out in Trump's favor.

So far as the decision to fire O'Reilly goes, there are just 3 key people who run 21st Century Fox, you have the father Rupert Murdoch along with the two sons- James and Lachlan. Rupert wanted to somehow keep O'Reilly, while James and Lachlan didn't see the issues with O'Reilly ever going away and recognized that he had to be let go. Fox News is in a bad place with no obvious star to replace O'Reilly. Morale at the station is low.

No, Russia was the key factor in Hillary's loss. Had it not been for the media's overwhelmingly negative coverage of her emails, she would've won.

What about the shit that the Democratic Party was up to? You know, that stuff that got on Wikileaks.

[Neutraligon]

Maddow should stay, as she is a woman. She reports on Russia a lot because the Russians helped elect Donald Trump.

If Hillary Clinton ran a better campaign, no amount of Russian help would've ensured a Donald Trump victory. Russia is being used as an excuse more than anything else. There were at least dozens of other missteps by Democrats that played out in Trump's favor.

So far as the decision to fire O'Reilly goes, there are just 3 key people who run 21st Century Fox, you have the father Rupert Murdoch along with the two sons- James and Lachlan. Rupert wanted to somehow keep O'Reilly, while James and Lachlan didn't see the issues with O'Reilly ever going away and recognized that he had to be let go. Fox News is in a bad place with no obvious star to replace O'Reilly. Morale at the station is low.

I have no idea if moral is low.I think any other person on Fox would have long since been let go, and people on Fox might not be happy with the fact that he has been kept so long when others would have been let go. For all I know people at Fox wanted this.