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Postby Betoni » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:42 pm

:eyebrow: Would a 5-year-old have all the necessary tools to define their gender, mental age and identity in a meaningful way, such as an adult would?

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Postby Former Citizens of the Nimbus System » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:43 pm

The Third Greater German Reich wrote:Yeah there's a such thing as being transaged..... It's called a birthday. You know that thing that comes around once a year?

This is clearly not the matter being debated.
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Postby The Third Greater German Reich » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:50 pm

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The Third Greater German Reich wrote:Yeah there's a such thing as being transaged..... It's called a birthday. You know that thing that comes around once a year?

This is clearly not the matter being debated.


My point since you entirely missed it is that the only way this whole transaged bs exists is through birthdays. No one can be a six year old girl trapped in a 50 year old or whatever man's body. People who believe such nonsense are absolutely insane and should be locked away. The whole reason someone has come up with the whole "transaged" thing is because in this day and age of sjws, pc culture and thought policing has become acceptable. This should be stamped out. People who think this should be told they're wrong. It doesn't exist. You cannot be a six year old girl if you're a fifty year old man and you're clearly insane if you think you are.
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Postby Aelex » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:52 pm

What has our society came to for this shit to be actually debated?
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:56 pm

The Third Greater German Reich wrote:
Former Citizens of the Nimbus System wrote:This is clearly not the matter being debated.


My point since you entirely missed it is that the only way this whole transaged bs exists is through birthdays. No one can be a six year old girl trapped in a 50 year old or whatever man's body. People who believe such nonsense are absolutely insane and should be locked away. The whole reason someone has come up with the whole "transaged" thing is because in this day and age of sjws, pc culture and thought policing has become acceptable. This should be stamped out. People who think this should be told they're wrong. It doesn't exist. You cannot be a six year old girl if you're a fifty year old man and you're clearly insane if you think you are.

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Literally nobody thinks this is socially acceptable. This is the fault of either serious mental issues that require therapy, or a really creepy extension of the already creepy daddy/little kink. "PC culture and thought policing" didn't cause this shit. It arose on its own.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:01 pm

i don't give a flying fuck holy shit get a hobby or something instead of crying about what other people think about themselves

Also interesting that people who claim that people they don't like are mentally ill then generally proceed to express contempt for them for that reason. Really goes to show what wholesome people we are dealing with here.
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Postby Smernosh Smercova » Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:08 pm

Transagers are absolutely real. Everyone should be allowed to express their identity in which ever way they choose.
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:15 pm

Smernosh Smercova wrote:Transagers are absolutely real. Everyone should be allowed to express their identity in which ever way they choose.

Now I'm convinced that you're a troll.
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Postby Torsiedelle » Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:30 pm

The Holy Therns wrote:So... does she mean she's always been six or like, does she mean she was born six years ago? And if so what was she before that?


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Okay, bantz aside, anyone who legit thinks they're "trans-age" is probably in need of mental help, unless it's some sort of over the top ageplay kink.

Well, even then...nah, I don't like kinkshaming...
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Postby Community Values » Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:51 pm

I don't think it's real, but it's their prerogative. As long as they realize that the law still holds them liable to contracts, I don't see the problem.
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:58 pm

Time as we know it is not mutable. Thus, one cannot be a different age than they actually are, appearances due to genetic issues aside. The mental facilities, predilections, possible kinks or fetishes, or other contributing factors aren't really for us to sit and guess about. I'd suggest that the reasons may vary from person to person, and while some harmless roleplay or consensual fetish play is probably fine, someone truly believing they are not the age they are to the point of potential debilitation, or harm to others, probably ought to get looked at by someone who is in a position to actually help. There is also the concern of some using it as a crutch for pedophilia issues, though one would hope that isn't the prime reason, nor primary mindset of any who may be having problems with this.

This also doesn't have a goram thing to do with transgender issues, regardless of the similarity in terms, and it could very well be disingenuous to suggest that 'its the exact same thing'. It isn't, nor should one situation be used to excuse or explain or gain false sympathy for another - especially not when the first is a very real struggle for people who happen to be suffering on account.

'Course, that's just my opinion on it. Y'all can think as you like. *shrugs*

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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:32 pm

Hmm. age is simply a number we place on people for how many times (approximately) the earth has traveled around the sun since they where born. It only has meaning in that people typically mentally and physically develop at around the same amount of time which has to do with how we ensure they are medically healthy. Since it has no meaning beyond that I am not sure what it would mean to be transage. Maybe a person who physically or mentally does not develop as the typical population does? I mean there are diseases that can cause you to age faster at least physically.
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Postby Khalisako » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:35 pm

Hmmm, if science makes it possible to mutate into younger body, possibly even that of a child, I say go for it. I don't particularlly care what a person's reasoning is... tho, if it's ot make the booze go further, I'm 100% on board with that.
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Postby Stormwrath » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:49 pm

Isn't this news relatively old though?

Eh, could just be me.

Ummm, no. Transgender is where I draw the line on the trans-anything thing.

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Postby Vitainia » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:50 pm

Stormwrath wrote:Isn't this news relatively old though?

Eh, could just be me.

Ummm, no. Transgender is where I draw the line on the trans-anything thing.

Same.

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Postby Neo Balka » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:52 pm

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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:58 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
UKCS wrote:Ok, I am going to be first to brave this.
Transgender = Completely fine.
"Transage" = Seek help.
There is a difference between the metaphorical "feeling younger", and being ridiculous/slightly odd.


Yep. Trans-racial is also bullshit.

I don't have strong feelings here so I'm neutral on this matter. Keeping that in mind, I wonder why people think this.

Gender is a social construct right? Race is a social construct right? Why is transgenderism fine but transracialism not okay?
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:05 pm

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Salus Maior wrote:
Yep. Trans-racial is also bullshit.

I don't have strong feelings here so I'm neutral on this matter. Keeping that in mind, I wonder why people think this.

Gender is a social construct right? Race is a social construct right? Why is transgenderism fine but transracialism not okay?

There's documented biological and psychological causes for gender dysphoria. Racial dysphoria doesn't exist.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:26 pm

Wasn't there a controversy a while back about a 60-year-old man identifying as a 10-year-old girl?
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Postby Costa Fierro » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:49 pm

Just because you put the prefix "trans" in front of something related to age, sex or other social thing does not make that thing legitimate. Transsexuals/transgenders actually have some identity dissonance that has been scientifically proven and is therefore the only legitimate social thing that exists because we have scientific evidence of the existence of someone identifying as a man but born as a woman and vice versa. Anything else is just attention seeking bullshit and should not be legitimised.

Also I thought "transage" was something that paedophiles used to gain legitimacy for their sexual deviancy?
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Postby Monarey » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:51 pm

Just like transgender & transrace it does not matter what you'd like to think you are. You are what you are.
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:53 pm

Monarey wrote:Just like transgender & transrace it does not matter what you'd like to think you are. You are what you are.

Except transgender people actually exist. The rest is likely a result of mental illness or simple attention-seeking nonsense.
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Postby Danceria » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:55 pm

> MFW

Why the hell not! Kids are always told to be whatever they want! Shoot them up full of hormones/hormone blockers, make 'em fifty, and if they so much as protest, well then they're a bigot!
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Postby Monarey » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:55 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:
Monarey wrote:Just like transgender & transrace it does not matter what you'd like to think you are. You are what you are.

Except transgender people actually exist. The rest is likely a result of mental illness or simple attention-seeking nonsense.

All three are due to mental aberration or for attention.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:55 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:Gender dysphoria has multiple explanations in different scientific fields, and the non-binary gender spectrum is pretty supported by science, which definitely doesn't say "there are two genders" and definitely doesn't say "there are two sexes".


The only thing that comes close to scientific support of the "non-binary spectrum" is that the brain itself is non-binary. And if gender is a social construct, then it has no base in science and therefore any claim that male, female or "non-binary" genders are "real" is wrong.

Or, perhaps one could argue that gender is arbitrarily designated based on the genitalia of a person, and because people at a subconscious level identify or fit in with their gender and engage in behaviour associated with their gender, then gender as a social construct applied to the genitalia and behaviours associated with the different sexes is binary and therefore non-binary genders also do not exist.
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