[UK] General Election 2017 Superthread

[Vassenor]

I wasn't aware Boris Johnson was running for the position of Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.

Boris Johnson is always trying to become PM.

It's pretty much the only reason he joined the Leave campaign.

[Risottia]

I wasn't aware Boris Johnson was running for the position of Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.

Boris Johnson is always trying to become PM.

What are we going to do tonight, Boris?
Same thing we do every night, Donald. Try to take over the world!

[Irona]

Who on earth thought it was a good idea for May's campaign to throw away the Tories two biggest draws: low taxes and high pensions. The King makers in politics are the old people.

Tory rule 1 - don't piss off the pensioners.

[Souseiseki]

Who on earth thought it was a good idea for May's campaign to throw away the Tories two biggest draws: low taxes and high pensions. The King makers in politics are the old people.

Tory rule 1 - don't piss off the pensioners.

she also tried to build a police state while pissing off the police, as did her predecessor

it's too good, they're not even good tories

[Dooom35796821595]

Who on earth thought it was a good idea for May's campaign to throw away the Tories two biggest draws: low taxes and high pensions. The King makers in politics are the old people.

Tory rule 1 - don't piss off the pensioners.

All rules go out the window when Corbin is making Labour unelectable.

[Islamic Republic e Jariri]

Who on earth thought it was a good idea for May's campaign to throw away the Tories two biggest draws: low taxes and high pensions. The King makers in politics are the old people.

Tory rule 1 - don't piss off the pensioners.

All rules go out the window when Corbin is making Labour unelectable.

Which means this snap election was strategically a good idea - Labour will probably lose even more seats and Conservatives will gain more.

[Vassenor]

All rules go out the window when Corbin is making Labour unelectable.

Which means this snap election was strategically a good idea - Labour will probably lose even more seats and Conservatives will gain more.

Assuming the same polls that predicted a Remain victory are suddenly accurate.

[Dooom35796821595]

Which means this snap election was strategically a good idea - Labour will probably lose even more seats and Conservatives will gain more.

Assuming the same polls that predicted a Remain victory are suddenly accurate.

No one relies on polls anymore, the bookies are more accurate since they have money involved.

Or obligatory joke about all the poles going home after Brexit won. *shrug*

[Frank Zipper]

Theresa May will look rather foolish if she doesn't win a landslide.

[Angleter]

Which means this snap election was strategically a good idea - Labour will probably lose even more seats and Conservatives will gain more.

Assuming the same polls that predicted a Remain victory are suddenly accurate.

The polls were (on average) inaccurate, but not that inaccurate. They were a few points out on Brexit. Labour are (again, on average) seventeen points behind.

[Islamic Republic e Jariri]

Theresa May will look rather foolish if she doesn't win a landslide.

I just don't see Labour as a legitimate threat towards the Tories, and the Lib Dems are unlikely to make any real comeback even if they do regain some seats. It seems likely Conservatives will gain more seats and Labour will lose more seats - for some reason nobody likes Corbyn. I'm pretty meh about him myself.

[Major-Tom]

Theresa May will look rather foolish if she doesn't win a landslide.

Unless Corbyn can radically (hehe) change the narrative in the next month and a half, he and his party is fucked.

[Dooom35796821595]

Theresa May will look rather foolish if she doesn't win a landslide.

Unless Corbyn can radically (hehe) change the narrative in the next month and a half, he and his party is fucked.

Didn't Blair do that with new Labour AKA Tory lite.

[Major-Tom]

Unless Corbyn can radically (hehe) change the narrative in the next month and a half, he and his party is fucked.

Didn't Blair do that with new Labour AKA Tory lite.

Blair was many points ahead of the Tories in government for years leading up to the '97 election. He had changed the narrative long prior to the vote.

[Neragua]

ComRes/Sunday Mirror poll has Tories on 50%. Highest support for any party since 2002 and highest support for Tories since 1991. If May and the Conservatives did take 50% of the vote, it would be the first time since 1935 that a party took an absolute majority of the vote.

That said, this is – so far – an outlier. Two other polls to be released tomorrow are said to have Tories on 48%.

The more interesting poll is the one to be released for the Sunday Times Scotland which has SNP on 43% and Tories on 32%. Analysis shows the Tories could win up to 12 seats (including Labour's only Scottish seat) on those numbers. Lib Dems could win up to 4 and make something of a come back in Scotland.

[Burgundian Union]

ComRes/Sunday Mirror poll has Tories on 50%. Highest support for any party since 2002 and highest support for Tories since 1991. If May and the Conservatives did take 50% of the vote, it would be the first time since 1935 that a party took an absolute majority of the vote.

That said, this is – so far – an outlier. Two other polls to be released tomorrow are said to have Tories on 48%.

The more interesting poll is the one to be released for the Sunday Times Scotland which has SNP on 43% and Tories on 32%. Analysis shows the Tories could win up to 12 seats (including Labour's only Scottish seat) on those numbers. Lib Dems could win up to 4 and make something of a come back in Scotland.

That would be very disorienting if the Tories became the second party in Scotland by a large party and also remember the shy tory affect, which could boost tory support

[Morgantown West Virginia]

ComRes/Sunday Mirror poll has Tories on 50%. Highest support for any party since 2002 and highest support for Tories since 1991. If May and the Conservatives did take 50% of the vote, it would be the first time since 1935 that a party took an absolute majority of the vote.

That said, this is – so far – an outlier. Two other polls to be released tomorrow are said to have Tories on 48%.

The more interesting poll is the one to be released for the Sunday Times Scotland which has SNP on 43% and Tories on 32%. Analysis shows the Tories could win up to 12 seats (including Labour's only Scottish seat) on those numbers. Lib Dems could win up to 4 and make something of a come back in Scotland.

That would be very disorienting if the Tories became the second party in Scotland by a large party and also remember the shy tory affect, which could boost tory support

Also, interesting that the Lib Dems look like, early to have a good move in Scotland. If that happens, could they make Labour the 4th biggest party in Scotland.

[The Archregimancy]

That would be very disorienting if the Tories became the second party in Scotland by a large party and also remember the shy tory affect, which could boost tory support

This is admittedly going off on a tangent, but one of the dirty little secrets in Scottish politics - and understandably neither the SNP nor the Tories are keen to advertise this too much - is that the SNP and the Conservative Party are quite happy to enter into a coalition with each other on the local level when they deem it necessary.

There's an SNP - Tory local government coalition currently in place in both Dumfries & Galloway (Tory-led) and East Ayrshire (SNP-led).

So much of the oppositional bluster between the two parties is for national consumption (however defined) and designed to whip up the base; on a practical local level, both parties are perfectly willing to make a deal with each other when they feel it's politically expedient.

[Angleter]

Labour pledge to introduce four extra bank holidays a year 'to give workers the break they deserve'.

I've no idea what on Earth led them to come up with this one. Bank holidays are great unless you work in retail, or hospitality, or the 'gig economy', or if you're self-employed. These days wouldn't just be work days for most of the low-paid, but they'd be among the most hectic days of the year for them. I am genuinely astonished that Labour's policy-makers thought this was a good idea. They must have absolutely no idea of how the modern economy works for the people whom they're supposed to represent. I mean, there must be some kind of disconnect there.

Also, they want to put the bloody holidays in March and April, when people will appreciate them the least. They can't even get that bit right. Labour are totally screwed.

[Imperializt Russia]

May doesn't seem too bad. Far from good, and definitely scummy and opportunistic - but I suppose it isn't the worst thing ever.

No, she has not yet embarked on a plan to intern and eventually liquidate all leftwing opposition or brown people, and if you're not an immigrant, poor or gay, then she's done little to directly antagonise you.

"Not too bad".

[Imperializt Russia]

Beyond June, there is a feeling that even a landslide defeat wouldn’t kill the Corbyn movement. The hard left know that Corbyn must cling on until the McDonnell Amendment – which would reduce the benchmark of support within the PLP for a candidate to stand for the leadership – passes. But given the difficulties the Corbyn camp have had in passing it, a crushing defeat, combined with the resignations of centrist MPs, could actually consolidate power for a movement that is led by Corbyn, but not exclusively bound to him. If a hard left candidate stands in a post-landslide leadership contest, they will all but certainly win, and the Labour party’s regeneration will fall at the first hurdle.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/04/e ... y-corbyn/#

I don't think the Spectator has made for reliable political commentary for some time now. I mean, it's the spectator, they don't like the "hard left", or Corbyn, to a pathological extent, and want every shred of either erased.
This is the publication that popularised the term "virtue signalling", which lost its meaning on the internet faster than "leftist" but not as fast as "SJW".

I might as well get my information on Antifa or Planned Parenthood from Infowars.

[The Wolfiad]

Assuming the same polls that predicted a Remain victory are suddenly accurate.

No one relies on polls anymore, the bookies are more accurate since they have money involved.

Or obligatory joke about all the poles going home after Brexit won. *shrug*

I think you're all wrong... the bookies said Remain would win and the polls were a mixed bag. Heck when I can back home in referendum day after Labour GOTV all I could think was 'I hope we've done enough'.

The final polls had Remain narrowly in the lead but also generally had about 10% undecided, most of whom bucked for Leave. Prior to that numerous polls put Leave ahead and I personally thought based on what Labour activists in the North and also my own phone banking that we would probably Leave.

In terms of current polls, +17 being inaccurate would be extraordinary and unprecedented if wrong. Corbyn has lots of ground to make up. In general they also traditionally overestimate Labour when wrong.

Which means this snap election was strategically a good idea - Labour will probably lose even more seats and Conservatives will gain more.

Assuming the same polls that predicted a Remain victory are suddenly accurate.

Say they aren't. Seeing that you're ignoring traditional ways polls are wrong and are saying they're wrong cause pollsters can't poll, who's to say the Tories aren't actually at 60% of the vote? It works both ways, 'the polls are wrong'.

[Maichuko]

I hear the leader of the liberal democrats will need to campaign against a man in a fish stick costume. Is this true or an elaborate joke the media fell for?

[Irona]

ComRes/Sunday Mirror poll has Tories on 50%. Highest support for any party since 2002 and highest support for Tories since 1991. If May and the Conservatives did take 50% of the vote, it would be the first time since 1935 that a party took an absolute majority of the vote.

That said, this is – so far – an outlier. Two other polls to be released tomorrow are said to have Tories on 48%.

The more interesting poll is the one to be released for the Sunday Times Scotland which has SNP on 43% and Tories on 32%. Analysis shows the Tories could win up to 12 seats (including Labour's only Scottish seat) on those numbers. Lib Dems could win up to 4 and make something of a come back in Scotland.

This morning the Mail on Sunday's front page story is: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -turn.html

Their poll has Teresa May's support halved since she called the election, apparently because of her stance on tax and pensions. The Tories have fallen 11 points in four days. They still have a ten point lead but bloody hell. Somebody needs to get fired in May's campaign.

Interesting the poll comes from a right-wing paper as well and on the same day that the express claims her lead has increased.

[Great Minarchistan]

for some reason nobody likes Corbyn.

Ever checked his proposals? It's top-tier madness.