[UK] General Election 2017 Superthread

[The Huskar Social Union]

if the DUP can get a "hard brexit but without restating the troubles please" level of special deal from the EU they'll do it

Some of them im sure would gladly love to start the troubles again.

[Souseiseki]

it's very unlikely but if the tory-DUP coalition tear up human rights then the DUP decide it's finally time to save ulster from sodomy once more i will die laughing and never ever ever ever shut up about how souseiseki was right

[Ifreann]

Anyone else think another election within 12 months is likely? I can't see this minority governementer standing very long.

May surely has to go and who replaces her? Boris would be worse. I kind of feel sorry (I don't but for sake of the point) for George Osborne. If he had run again and won he would definitely be the next PM of the UK.

The Tories might prefer to hold on until after Brexit and then throw May under the battlebus.

[Thanatttynia]

loool he made his bed. A centrist like Osborne would have been the best choice (of bad ones) for the country; he'll be kicking himself I'm sure, the Evening Standard doesn't quite compare to Downing Street.

Although I'm not complaining, I'm looking forward to the Tory bloodshed and backstabbing. I have my popcorn ready.

It will be entertaining, for sure.

You just wish that they weren't in government so their chaos doesn't have to affect the rest of the UK. May's hubris has destabilised this country massively, and it really remains to be seen whether such a shaky position for the Conservatives - whilst they are still in power - will do more to help or harm British people. The Opposition has been greatly strengthened, but the Tories are still in Government, and therefore a swift and decisive action, whichever way (I'm hoping for a leadership change at the least, if not another election), is what we should all be hoping for.

[Paquador]

Although I'm not complaining, I'm looking forward to the Tory bloodshed and backstabbing. I have my popcorn ready.

It will be entertaining, for sure.

You just wish that they weren't in government so their chaos doesn't have to affect the rest of the UK. May's hubris has destabilised this country massively, and it really remains to be seen whether such a shaky position for the Conservatives - whilst they are still in power - will do more to help or harm British people. The Opposition has been greatly strengthened, but the Tories are still in Government, and therefore a swift and decisive action, whichever way (I'm hoping for a leadership change at the least, if not another election), is what we should all be hoping for.

True mate! Although I'm just happy a Hard Brexit is now extremely unlikely. It's just a shame those DUP nut jobs get some power.

And you're right, they need to either stand behind her or get rid ASAP. And given how dismal she has been, how woeful this campaign has been I can't see her staying.

Worst gamble in history! Well maybe not as bad as Cameron...

[Chestaan]

And I think we have Jezza to thank for the youth turnout. He offers us young people hope for a better future, a break from the traditional neoliberal politics.

Estimated 2015 youth turnout: 43%
Estimated EU referendum youth turnout: 64%
Estimated 2017 youth turnout: 72%

It's almost like something happened in late 2015 that encouraged young people to get into politics

I agree that Brexit had an affect on youth turnout, but I have to say that I think the Corbyn effect is also in play. His rallies were absolutely huge, and he actually offered something to young people in a time when most other parties, particularly the Tories, either couldn't care less or were actively trying to screw over young people.

[Geilinor]

Although I'm not complaining, I'm looking forward to the Tory bloodshed and backstabbing. I have my popcorn ready.

It will be entertaining, for sure.

You just wish that they weren't in government so their chaos doesn't have to affect the rest of the UK. May's hubris has destabilised this country massively, and it really remains to be seen whether such a shaky position for the Conservatives - whilst they are still in power - will do more to help or harm British people. The Opposition has been greatly strengthened, but the Tories are still in Government, and therefore a swift and decisive action, whichever way (I'm hoping for a leadership change at the least, if not another election), is what we should all be hoping for.

May is going to go down as one of the worst prime ministers ever.

[Chestaan]

[Paquador]

May is going to go down as one of the worst prime ministers ever.

No, she IS the worst prime minister in history. Awful, awful, awful campaign from start to finish and she deserves to be the shortest serving PM in modern British political history.

[Fartsniffage]

The Queen's Speech is what needs to be passed to form a government, essentially. Any Tory MPs voting against it aren't going to keep being Tory MPs for very long.

They should form a new party, a party led by Lord Buckethead, the Hero and Prime Minister we deserve.

https://www.joe.co.uk/politics/lord-buc ... now-128838

Policies I could really get behind....

[Liriena]

May is going to go down as one of the worst prime ministers ever.

No, she IS the worst prime minister in history. Awful, awful, awful campaign from start to finish and she deserves to be the shortest serving PM in modern British political history.

But she had such a good slogan!!!! D':

[Caracasus]

No, she IS the worst prime minister in history. Awful, awful, awful campaign from start to finish and she deserves to be the shortest serving PM in modern British political history.

But she had such a good slogan!!!! D':

It's alright. She's got a Government of Certainty now!

[Liriena]

But she had such a good slogan!!!! D':

It's alright. She's got a Government of Certainty now!

But Headmistress May taught me that it was bad to form a coalition with terrorist sympathizers. D':

[Questers]

Kinda sad I missed the 70 pages worth of discussion here, but I was too busy IRL.

At the eleventh hour I made my mind up and called a Labour victory - moments before the exit poll. While we didn't get the victory in name, we got it in everything else.

The Labour movement suffered a body blow in 2015 and in 2017 the challenges were even greater. The Conservatives had the whole mass media, including the BBC, as much money as they wanted from donors, all the 'experts' and even parts of the Labour party. They even had the weather on their side (at least here). But we met the challenge. Against all the odds, Labour increased its number of seats (and in my constituency our excellent Labour MP nearly tripled her majority) and the Conservatives lost their majority. Theresa May will have to go.

Onwards to 2022 - or even earlier.

[Caracasus]

It's alright. She's got a Government of Certainty now!

But Headmistress May taught me that it was bad to form a coalition with terrorist sympathizers. D':

No, no no, that was never her message. Her message was always that it's bad form to form coalitions with terrorist sympathizers that don't have stuff we want.

It's obviously totally OK to kick your moral compass out the window in addition to a fragile peace process for short term political gain.

[Liriena]

But Headmistress May taught me that it was bad to form a coalition with terrorist sympathizers. D':

No, no no, that was never her message. Her message was always that it's bad form to form coalitions with terrorist sympathizers that don't have stuff we want.

It's obviously totally OK to kick your moral compass out the window in addition to a fragile peace process for short term political gain.

But that's not STRONG AND STABLE^TM

[Caracasus]

No, no no, that was never her message. Her message was always that it's bad form to form coalitions with terrorist sympathizers that don't have stuff we want.

It's obviously totally OK to kick your moral compass out the window in addition to a fragile peace process for short term political gain.

But that's not STRONG AND STABLE^TM

Sure it is. You just need something of a radical rethink about what two of the words in "strong and stable" mean.

[Hydesland]

As far as I can tell DUP don't care to impose any of their conservative views on the rest of the British mainland.

[Fartsniffage]

"Given that the Lib Dems are where they are, what first attracted you to the anti-abortion, pro-Brexit, climate change deniers that are the DUP?"

https://www.joe.co.uk/news/kay-burley-t ... ion-128952

Fucking love it.

[Imperializt Russia]

So one of the Tory twatbaskets on my Facebook, a man with no critical thinking skills, posted a shitty "joke".
"Bet those Labour votes would have dropped of you had to be employed to vote".

He had, of course, spent the last few weeks laughing about how rekt Labour was going to be and stroking himself off to a domineering May majority.

Of course, this is just pure disenfranchisement of votes. Fitting, since the Tories never once encouraged people in general, let alone young people, to get registered to vote.

But funnily enough, this would actually harm the Tories. An FT analysis tries to show a link between unemployment and swing from Labour to Conservative.

https://www.ft.com/content/dac3a3b2-4ad ... 14ce4af89b
There is a correlation between the percentage population in poor health, and swing to Cons. This is because an area with high poor health is either elderly, or deprived, with under and unemployed persons. And the correlation between number of those in poor health and those in under/unemployment and with low skills.

[Questers]

All I can say about the election is York Central will definitely return our Labour MP. This city is redder than tomato sauce.

Huh, didn't realise you were in York too. I swapped my vote (from York Outer) to add to that Labour majority and hopefully have a decent shot at keeping the Tories out of York Outer.

York Outer was always a long shot (and I know for a fact our candidate there is a stand-up guy) but the real thing to be happy about is Rachel Maskell increasing her majority from 6000 to 18000 (!!!!) and both Jonny Crawshaw and Michael Pavolic taking Micklegate/Hull Road respectively - and the Green local candidate getting more votes than the Conservative. If you did any doorknocking in York this outcome was pretty obvious though.

[Liriena]

So one of the Tory twatbaskets on my Facebook, a man with no critical thinking skills, posted a shitty "joke".
"Bet those Labour votes would have dropped of you had to be employed to vote".

He had, of course, spent the last few weeks laughing about how rekt Labour was going to be and stroking himself off to a domineering May majority.

Of course, this is just pure disenfranchisement of votes. Fitting, since the Tories never once encouraged people in general, let alone young people, to get registered to vote.

But funnily enough, this would actually harm the Tories. An FT analysis tries to show a link between unemployment and swing from Labour to Conservative.

https://www.ft.com/content/dac3a3b2-4ad ... 14ce4af89b
There is a correlation between the percentage population in poor health, and swing to Cons. This is because an area with high poor health is either elderly, or deprived, with under and unemployed persons. And the correlation between number of those in poor health and those in under/unemployment and with low skills.

We don't like your critical thinking kind around these parts. You will speak in simplistic, smug and uninformed propagandistic clichés.

[Questers]

So one of the Tory twatbaskets on my Facebook, a man with no critical thinking skills, posted a shitty "joke".
"Bet those Labour votes would have dropped of you had to be employed to vote".

yeah I love the whole thing about labour supporters being unemployed scroungers when the labour party manifesto is like "Lets make jobs for everyone" lol

[Hydesland]

Meme

[Liriena]

Meme
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What an ugly flag.