I think you have some serious paranoia.
Like, Alex jones levels.
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by Neo Balka » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:36 pm
by Hashirajima » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:36 pm
by Neutraligon » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:37 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Eh, no, that's not actually the case.
See, what you're trying to do here is saying you're willing to go as far as to control your child's thoughts in any matter to be exactly like yours. That just doesn't happen in reality. You'll have to learn how to compromise as a parent. If you can't compromise, don't be a parent. It's simple. We don't need everyone fucking to survive as a species, and if you are not willing to put up the commitment to have children, then just don't. Be celibate, or better yet, just be part of the clergy.
The world's not missing out on you not having children.
I am plenty willing to take commitment for children. I just don't think that involves sacrificing everything I believe at the altar of good feelings.
by Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:38 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I am plenty willing to take commitment for children. I just don't think that involves sacrificing everything I believe at the altar of good feelings.
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by United Muscovite Nations » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:39 pm
Neutraligon wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:I am plenty willing to take commitment for children. I just don't think that involves sacrificing everything I believe at the altar of good feelings.
It isn't ont the altar of good feelings, it is on ensuring the mental and physical well being on your child. If you are unable to commit to ensuring the mental and physical well being of your child you should not have a child. This by the way isn't an attack on you, I do not think I would be a good parent at all and so will not be having a child.
by United Muscovite Nations » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:40 pm
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:I am plenty willing to take commitment for children. I just don't think that involves sacrificing everything I believe at the altar of good feelings.
It might not be obvious, but if you're willing to take a bullet for your child and die to be able to give them a chance at life, you can't give up anything else. Your beliefs don't matter if you're dead, so really and truly, if you want to have kids, you better get used to the idea that if you're willing to die for them, you're also willing to make concessions on your beliefs for their sake.
by Hakons » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:41 pm
by Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:41 pm
Neutraligon wrote:It isn't ont the altar of good feelings, it is on ensuring the mental and physical well being on your child. If you are unable to commit to ensuring the mental and physical well being of your child you should not have a child. This by the way isn't an attack on you, I do not think I would be a good parent at all and so will not be having a child.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Neutraligon » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:41 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Neutraligon wrote:It isn't ont the altar of good feelings, it is on ensuring the mental and physical well being on your child. If you are unable to commit to ensuring the mental and physical well being of your child you should not have a child. This by the way isn't an attack on you, I do not think I would be a good parent at all and so will not be having a child.
And I think allowing them to embrace homosexuality will harm them literally for eternity.
by Hashirajima » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:41 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
It might not be obvious, but if you're willing to take a bullet for your child and die to be able to give them a chance at life, you can't give up anything else. Your beliefs don't matter if you're dead, so really and truly, if you want to have kids, you better get used to the idea that if you're willing to die for them, you're also willing to make concessions on your beliefs for their sake.
My beliefs are more important than my life.
by The Shrailleeni Empire » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:42 pm
New Edom wrote:Elizabeth Salt remarked, "It's amazing, isn't it, you rarely see modern troops that wear their 19th century uniforms and gear so well--they must drill all the time. Is this a guards outfit?"
Sif said to her, "This is a modern Shrailleeni Empire military parade. Like as in this is what they wear, this is what they use. This is it."
by Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:42 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
It might not be obvious, but if you're willing to take a bullet for your child and die to be able to give them a chance at life, you can't give up anything else. Your beliefs don't matter if you're dead, so really and truly, if you want to have kids, you better get used to the idea that if you're willing to die for them, you're also willing to make concessions on your beliefs for their sake.
My beliefs are more important than my life.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Lutherah » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:44 pm
The Shrailleeni Empire wrote:San Lumen wrote:Uh... No its not. And in my city I'm safe from any such action. The governor and mayor would never allow it.
I do think that it is important to note that it is already happening in the vast majority of places in the United States that exist outside of the seven states and handful of cities that have banned the practice.
by Vigilante justice » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:47 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
It might not be obvious, but if you're willing to take a bullet for your child and die to be able to give them a chance at life, you can't give up anything else. Your beliefs don't matter if you're dead, so really and truly, if you want to have kids, you better get used to the idea that if you're willing to die for them, you're also willing to make concessions on your beliefs for their sake.
My beliefs are more important than my life.
by Hakons » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:51 pm
Neutraligon wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:And I think allowing them to embrace homosexuality will harm them literally for eternity.
Which is why I think your god is an asshole. Is suicide a sin in your book, because then either way you are more likely to have a child sinning, and at least they will have a short time on earth with you where they can actually be happy, and mentally and physically healthy. Oh and...of course that ignores the fact that the child will likely simply fully cut you off should you act in the way you are suggesting and so all you will have done is mentally harmed them while not preventing them from sinning.
by Washington Resistance Army » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:55 pm
Hakons wrote:Neutraligon wrote:Which is why I think your god is an asshole. Is suicide a sin in your book, because then either way you are more likely to have a child sinning, and at least they will have a short time on earth with you where they can actually be happy, and mentally and physically healthy. Oh and...of course that ignores the fact that the child will likely simply fully cut you off should you act in the way you are suggesting and so all you will have done is mentally harmed them while not preventing them from sinning.
God didn't have to create us, and He certainly didn't have to give you the right to call Him an asshole.
Anyway, the truth is that only a very small number of people turn out to be homosexual. The odds are that UMN will never have to deal with this issue.
by Neutraligon » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:57 pm
Hakons wrote:Neutraligon wrote:Which is why I think your god is an asshole. Is suicide a sin in your book, because then either way you are more likely to have a child sinning, and at least they will have a short time on earth with you where they can actually be happy, and mentally and physically healthy. Oh and...of course that ignores the fact that the child will likely simply fully cut you off should you act in the way you are suggesting and so all you will have done is mentally harmed them while not preventing them from sinning.
God didn't have to create us, and He certainly didn't have to give you the right to call Him an asshole.
Anyway, the truth is that only a very small number of people turn out to be homosexual. The odds are that UMN will never have to deal with this issue.
by Vigilante justice » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:59 pm
by Washington Resistance Army » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:00 pm
Vigilante justice wrote:Not really. If you want to get technical, god gave the right, because he created free will.
Unless you're a christian that doesn't believe in free will...
by Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:01 pm
Hakons wrote:Neutraligon wrote:Which is why I think your god is an asshole. Is suicide a sin in your book, because then either way you are more likely to have a child sinning, and at least they will have a short time on earth with you where they can actually be happy, and mentally and physically healthy. Oh and...of course that ignores the fact that the child will likely simply fully cut you off should you act in the way you are suggesting and so all you will have done is mentally harmed them while not preventing them from sinning.
God didn't have to create us, and He certainly didn't have to give you the right to call Him an asshole.
Anyway, the truth is that only a very small number of people turn out to be homosexual. The odds are that UMN will never have to deal with this issue.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Hakons » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:03 pm
Neutraligon wrote:Hakons wrote:
God didn't have to create us, and He certainly didn't have to give you the right to call Him an asshole.
Anyway, the truth is that only a very small number of people turn out to be homosexual. The odds are that UMN will never have to deal with this issue.
Well first i am an atheist so I don't believe in god. Second no he didn't have to create us, that doesn't change the fact that his actions make him an asshole. Third even if he did create us that does not mean he gets to tell me how to act, who to love etc anymore then my parents get to dictate every single thing I do or think. Fourth he didn't give us that right, we took it when we supposedly ate the apple against the will of god. Finally, if the result would be the world we live in today then I would prefer that god not have given us that right if it needed to be given to begin with.
by Vigilante justice » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:05 pm
Neutraligon wrote:Hakons wrote:
God didn't have to create us, and He certainly didn't have to give you the right to call Him an asshole.
Anyway, the truth is that only a very small number of people turn out to be homosexual. The odds are that UMN will never have to deal with this issue.
Well first i am an atheist so I don't believe in god. Second no he didn't have to create us, that doesn't change the fact that his actions make him an asshole. Third even if he did create us that does not mean he gets to tell me how to act, who to love etc anymore then my parents get to dictate every single thing I do or think. Fourth he didn't give us that right, we took it when we supposedly ate the apple against the will of god. Finally, if the result would be the world we live in today then I would prefer that god not have given us that right if it needed to be given to begin with.
by Neutraligon » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:08 pm
Hakons wrote:Neutraligon wrote:Well first i am an atheist so I don't believe in god. Second no he didn't have to create us, that doesn't change the fact that his actions make him an asshole. Third even if he did create us that does not mean he gets to tell me how to act, who to love etc anymore then my parents get to dictate every single thing I do or think. Fourth he didn't give us that right, we took it when we supposedly ate the apple against the will of god. Finally, if the result would be the world we live in today then I would prefer that god not have given us that right if it needed to be given to begin with.
God gave Adam and Eve the right to choose to eat the apple or not (free will). Eating the apple is when sin entered the world, which is why people complain about the world being so terrible. We're badly off topic, though.
by Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:09 pm
Vigilante justice wrote:Neutraligon wrote:Well first i am an atheist so I don't believe in god. Second no he didn't have to create us, that doesn't change the fact that his actions make him an asshole. Third even if he did create us that does not mean he gets to tell me how to act, who to love etc anymore then my parents get to dictate every single thing I do or think. Fourth he didn't give us that right, we took it when we supposedly ate the apple against the will of god. Finally, if the result would be the world we live in today then I would prefer that god not have given us that right if it needed to be given to begin with.
I wouldn't call him an ass hole though. If he created us in his image (Genesis 1) then we should reflect him in a lot of ways. He also created morals, so basically defines wrong or right, so really it's unfair to call him an ass for that. Also (I was talking about free will earlier) he gave us the right to eat the apple when he created free will. About your second point, I honestly don't know how I feel about LGBT's yet. Being gay has to be a mental disorder, because there really isn't' much of a reason for it too exist.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Hakons » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:09 pm
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:Hakons wrote:
God didn't have to create us, and He certainly didn't have to give you the right to call Him an asshole.
Anyway, the truth is that only a very small number of people turn out to be homosexual. The odds are that UMN will never have to deal with this issue.
To be fair, this is true.
On the other hand though, considering the beliefs of many Christians when it comes to child-rearing, I'd be pretty fucking scared of having a Christian wife and would heavily consider an atheist as a wife if they think anything like UMN.
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