Terror attack in St.Petersburg Metro, 14 dead

[Alvecia]

Actually, fuck those rules. They completely ignore any knowledge gained previously.
I don't throw out the entire body of scientific knowledge every time I start a new study.

...What does that have to do with what I said?

It's very relevant to those three "rules" I directly responded to. But again, somewhat threadjacky, I'll not continue this here.

[Alvecia]

...What does that have to do with what I said?

Beats me. There was nothing of knowledge about science there.

*sigh*
It was an analogy.

[Marado]

Or hypothesis or claims?

Clarify. Perhaps elsewhere though, this is enough of a thread jack as it is.

Okay.

[AiliailiA]

Is that legal? No due process in Russia?

We don't deal with legality on things like terrorism.

Who's "we"? Are you Russian?

[Marado]

We don't deal with legality on things like terrorism.

Who's "we"? Are you Russian?

[AiliailiA]

Who's "we"? Are you Russian?

If the bomber had accomplices who are (a) Russian but living abroad, (b) non-citizens living in Russia, or (c) non-citizens living abroad, it might well be legal for the Speznatz to simply kill them. Without any attempt to arrest them or put them on trial.

Here's the thing though, what if others are suspected of being accomplices, but they are (d), Russian citizens living in Russia?

Executing citizens without trial isn't something the US, the UK, any European nation, or any Commonwealth nation does. Hence I'm wondering who this "we" is, that TKGG is speaking for ...

And I still suspect that (d) would be illegal in Russia.

[Marado]

If the bomber had accomplices who are (a) Russian but living abroad, (b) non-citizens living in Russia, or (c) non-citizens living abroad, it might well be legal for the Speznatz to simply kill them. Without any attempt to arrest them or put them on trial.

Here's the thing though, what if others are suspected of being accomplices, but they are (d), Russian citizens living in Russia?

Executing citizens without trial isn't something the US, the UK, any European nation, or any Commonwealth nation does. Hence I'm wondering who this "we" is, that TKGG is speaking for ...

And I still suspect that (d) would be illegal in Russia.

Sadly. We need to root out those who do us evil.

[G-Tech Corporation]

If the bomber had accomplices who are (a) Russian but living abroad, (b) non-citizens living in Russia, or (c) non-citizens living abroad, it might well be legal for the Speznatz to simply kill them. Without any attempt to arrest them or put them on trial.

Here's the thing though, what if others are suspected of being accomplices, but they are (d), Russian citizens living in Russia?

Executing citizens without trial isn't something the US, the UK, any European nation, or any Commonwealth nation does. Hence I'm wondering who this "we" is, that TKGG is speaking for ...

And I still suspect that (d) would be illegal in Russia.

Sadly. We need to root out those who do us evil.

That's why you have a trial, not an extrajudicial killing. To ensure you aren't doing evil yourself and killing innocents.

[Novus America]

Sadly. We need to root out those who do us evil.

That's why you have a trial, not an extrajudicial killing. To ensure you aren't doing evil yourself and killing innocents.

Exactly. This is horrible, and those responsible (might just be a lone wolf) need to be punished to the maximum extent allowed by law, but going around having notoriously brutal military units slaughter Muslims on the basis of mere suspicion is simply not acceptable.

And would be counterproductive.

[Luziyca]

Condolences to the victims, and may humanity not be wolves to each other.

[Marado]

Sadly. We need to root out those who do us evil.

That's why you have a trial, not an extrajudicial killing. To ensure you aren't doing evil yourself and killing innocents.

After the trial, extrajudicial killing might ensue.

[Surkiea]

When you murder innocent children in Syria, you'll going to face a backlash.

[Marado]

When you murder innocent children in Syria, you'll going to face a backlash.

Russia would avenge for them. Syria's Russia's little brother.

[Novus America]

When you murder innocent children in Syria, you'll going to face a backlash.

Russia would avenge for them. Syria's Russia's little brother.

Russia has killed lots of Syrians. Assad is Putin's little puppet, but Assad is not Syria. Which no longer exists as a single functioning country.

[Marado]

Russia would avenge for them. Syria's Russia's little brother.

Russia has killed lots of Syrians. Assad is Putin's little puppet, but Assad is not Syria. Which no longer exists as a single functioning country.

You mean the ISIS, not the anti-ISIS Syrian fighters?

[Novus America]

Russia has killed lots of Syrians. Assad is Putin's little puppet, but Assad is not Syria. Which no longer exists as a single functioning country.

You mean the ISIS, not the anti-ISIS Syrian fighters?

Not sure what you are trying to say here. Russia has not focused on ISIS, but has been mostly bombing other groups, and has caused very high civilian casualties.

A lot of people in Syria deeply hate Russia as a result.

[Marado]

You mean the ISIS, not the anti-ISIS Syrian fighters?

Not sure what you are trying to say here. Russia has not focused on ISIS, but has been mostly bombing other groups, and has caused very high civilian casualties.

A lot of people in Syria deeply hate Russia as a result.

Weren't they sending military supplies to Syria once?

[Novus America]

Not sure what you are trying to say here. Russia has not focused on ISIS, but has been mostly bombing other groups, and has caused very high civilian casualties.

A lot of people in Syria deeply hate Russia as a result.

Weren't they sending military supplies to Syria once?

Syria is not a hive mind. Some in Syria, particularly the Allawites tend to like Russia. Others, many Sunnis hate Russia. Syria is a deeply fractured society.

[Marado]

Weren't they sending military supplies to Syria once?

Syria is not a hive mind. Some in Syria, particularly the Allawites tend to like Russia. Others, many Sunnis hate Russia. Syria is a deeply fractured society.

They have a good soccer team, although they lost 1-0 to Korea in AFC Qualifiers.

[Vassenor]

Weren't they sending military supplies to Syria once?

Syria is not a hive mind. Some in Syria, particularly the Allawites tend to like Russia. Others, many Sunnis hate Russia. Syria is a deeply fractured society.

Since Russia is propping up the regime which puts the Alawites above everyone else.

[Marado]

Syria is not a hive mind. Some in Syria, particularly the Allawites tend to like Russia. Others, many Sunnis hate Russia. Syria is a deeply fractured society.

Since Russia is propping up the regime which puts the Alawites above everyone else.

However, why?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Since Russia is propping up the regime which puts the Alawites above everyone else.

However, why?

Because said regime is more than happy to serve Russian interests on its knees in exchange for continued existence.

[Marado]

However, why?

Because said regime is more than happy to serve Russian interests on its knees in exchange for continued existence.

Why not the U.S., though?

[Eisarn-Ara]

So where does it say that was his motivation, rather than just an incidental fact that everyone is seizing on because it fits their narrative?

Vass, there is realizing that not all Muslims commit terrorist acts and don't defend those acts, and then there is being downright blind to an attack that was clearly motivated by religion. Learn to separate the two, and please, PLEASE don't be the latter.

This is Vassenor we're talking about here; it's like dealing with Guath, but less manipulative.

[Marado]

Vass, there is realizing that not all Muslims commit terrorist acts and don't defend those acts, and then there is being downright blind to an attack that was clearly motivated by religion. Learn to separate the two, and please, PLEASE don't be the latter.

This is Vassenor we're talking about here; it's like dealing with Guath, but less manipulative.