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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:11 am
by Hakons
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Are you serious?! :blink:

Liberals like it for some reason while conservatives hate it, so I guess?

:^)


No, let the Islamists join us against the godless Left. :p

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:18 am
by Ramune and Chocolate
War Gears wrote:As I pointed out in LWDT, anti-intellectual and irrationalist philosophy in Fascism is extremely overstated. There was a Fascist Manifesto of Intellectuals, and it was only opposed to an extremely specific caricature of intellectualism, while supporting epistemological and ontological theories about how nothing could exist outside thinking.

Eh, that's fair enough. But in that case, I can't see why the left's obsession with theories is any less a stereotypical overstatement.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:18 am
by The Sauganash Union
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Hey guys, um...
I don't like classifying religious ideology as a political spectrum, but Islamism is still on the right side. And since this is a right wing discussion thread, well...hi I guess?


In the West, it's part of the left coalition due to it being a POC minority culture.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:21 am
by Ramune and Chocolate
The Sauganash Union wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Hey guys, um...
I don't like classifying religious ideology as a political spectrum, but Islamism is still on the right side. And since this is a right wing discussion thread, well...hi I guess?


In the West, it's part of the left coalition due to it being a POC minority culture.

Good thing that not all leftists live in the West, I suppose.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:40 am
by Victoriala II
Bad thing most of them are TANKIES

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:51 am
by The Sauganash Union
Ramune and Chocolate wrote:
The Sauganash Union wrote:
In the West, it's part of the left coalition due to it being a POC minority culture.

Good thing that not all leftists live in the West, I suppose.


Leftists in the third world tend to be the most pro-Western, while leftists in the West tend to be anti-Western.

Funny how that works.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:58 am
by Ramune and Chocolate
The Sauganash Union wrote:Leftists in the third world tend to be the most pro-Western,

This is patently false. After all, Western countries chiefly the US had contributed, directly or indirectly, in the litany of atrocities perpetrated by right-wing governments in developing countries, during the Cold War and occasionally even after then. The world is not divided evenly in a dichotomy between Muslims and the West, you know.

"Anti-West" and "pro-West" are disingenuous terms anyway. More often, they state preferences for empires they'd like to oversee the global hegemony, as opposed to opposition to all empires. This is true for many rightists and leftists.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:30 am
by United Muscovite Nations
Genivaria wrote:
Community Values wrote:Has there ever been a left wing monarch?

You should ask United Muscovite Nations about the 'Red Tsar'.

He never actually became Tsar, he was just the heir to the throne. And he wasn't really Left-Wing, so much as he saw the economic theories of the Left as a way to strengthen the power of the Autocracy.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:51 am
by Old Tyrannia
The Sauganash Union wrote:
Ramune and Chocolate wrote:Good thing that not all leftists live in the West, I suppose.


Leftists in the third world tend to be the most pro-Western, while leftists in the West tend to be anti-Western.

Funny how that works.

Aye, because Bashar al-Assad, Raúl Castro, Robert Mugabe and Nicolás Maduro are all falling over themselves to praise the West.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:39 am
by The Sauganash Union
Old Tyrannia wrote:
The Sauganash Union wrote:
Leftists in the third world tend to be the most pro-Western, while leftists in the West tend to be anti-Western.

Funny how that works.

Aye, because Bashar al-Assad, Raúl Castro, Robert Mugabe and Nicolás Maduro are all falling over themselves to praise the West.


The first three would be considered right-wing in their country.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:53 am
by War Gears
United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Genivaria wrote:You should ask United Muscovite Nations about the 'Red Tsar'.

He never actually became Tsar, he was just the heir to the throne. And he wasn't really Left-Wing, so much as he saw the economic theories of the Left as a way to strengthen the power of the Autocracy.


Prince Higashikuni was an admirer of the Soviet Union and it's centralized economy, while being a loyal member of the imperial family.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:53 am
by Old Tyrannia
The Sauganash Union wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Aye, because Bashar al-Assad, Raúl Castro, Robert Mugabe and Nicolás Maduro are all falling over themselves to praise the West.


The first three would be considered right-wing in their country.

No they aren't, you're talking out of your rear end.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:58 am
by Thermodolia
The Sauganash Union wrote:
Ramune and Chocolate wrote:Good thing that not all leftists live in the West, I suppose.


Leftists in the third world tend to be the most pro-Western, while leftists in the West tend to be anti-Western.

Funny how that works.

What the crap are you talking about?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:00 am
by Thermodolia
The Sauganash Union wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Aye, because Bashar al-Assad, Raúl Castro, Robert Mugabe and Nicolás Maduro are all falling over themselves to praise the West.


The first three would be considered right-wing in their country.

What are you smoking?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:03 am
by Old Tyrannia
Thermodolia wrote:
The Sauganash Union wrote:
The first three would be considered right-wing in their country.

What are you smoking?

Cuban cigars, courtesy of the notorious right-winger Raúl Castro.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:20 am
by The Parkus Empire
How do posters here feel about John Milbank? He's an Anglican conservative.

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/comment ... genderism/

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:27 am
by War Gears
The Parkus Empire wrote:How do posters here feel about John Milbank? He's an Anglican conservative.

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/comment ... genderism/


An Anglican writing for a site named "Catholic Herald?"

But that aside, I agree with a lot of what he says such as:
Bodily appearances of engenderment are no longer seen as manifestations of a psychic-bodily unity, but as meaningless physical circumstances.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:46 am
by The Parkus Empire
War Gears wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:How do posters here feel about John Milbank? He's an Anglican conservative.

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/comment ... genderism/


An Anglican writing for a site named "Catholic Herald?"

But that aside, I agree with a lot of what he says such as:
Bodily appearances of engenderment are no longer seen as manifestations of a psychic-bodily unity, but as meaningless physical circumstances.

He's Anglican but in theology he's basically a Catholic minus Papism. Anglicans have a prominent wing like this, with a service that's basically Catholic as well.

Here's another article by him: http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles ... 463500.htm

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:37 am
by The Empire of Pretantia
The Sauganash Union wrote:
Ramune and Chocolate wrote:Good thing that not all leftists live in the West, I suppose.


Leftists in the third world tend to be the most pro-Western,

What is the Cold War

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:42 am
by The Parkus Empire
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
The Sauganash Union wrote:
Leftists in the third world tend to be the most pro-Western,

What is the Cold War

By "leftist" I'm presuming he means specifically liberal.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:14 pm
by Torsiedelle
Victoriala II wrote:Bad thing most of them are TANKIES


I thought I was a Tankie?

Then again, not many leftists continue to look up to Stalin, so yeah...

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:28 pm
by Proctopeo
Torsiedelle wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Bad thing most of them are TANKIES


I thought I was a Tankie?

Then again, not many leftists continue to look up to Stalin, so yeah...

He had a cool name and a cool mustache, but that's all the good I have to say about him.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:43 pm
by Kramania
The results of this poll are still highly aggravating to me.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:48 pm
by The Parkus Empire
Torsiedelle wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Bad thing most of them are TANKIES


I thought I was a Tankie?

Then again, not many leftists continue to look up to Stalin, so yeah...

Tankie is basically what commies say when they want to call someone a commie.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:05 pm
by El-Amin Caliphate
Kramania wrote:The results of this poll are still highly aggravating to me.

Why?