Right Wing Discussion Thread IX: The Right Man's Burden

[Sanctissima]

Opinions on the best republic?

Utterly decrepit failed state.

It was a country formed in the ruins of an empire by a coalition of Soc Dems and Marxists who couldn't agree on much of anything, so when the Marxists inevitably went full Commie and started rioting in the streets the Soc Dems had to beg the military they previously spurned for help, eventually resulting in the Marxists being rounded up and killed, and power falling almost exclusively in the hands of the Soc Dems.

Naturally, they couldn't rule for shit, so Hindenberg had to come out of retirement and desperately try to keep the dying country together until he said fuck it and handed power to a bunch of angry populists.

All in all, it was a pretty shit tier republic.

[War Gears]

Opinions on the best republic?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Social_Republic

You're wrong. This is the best republic.

[Community Values]

Opinions on the best republic?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Social_Republic

You're wrong. This is the best republic.

Not even top 5.
5. 2nd Spanish Republic
4. 1st Portuguese Republic
3. The first 2 French republics
2. Republic of China (during Yuan Shikai's presidency)
1. The Weimar Republic

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Opinions on the best republic?

Wrong

[United Muscovite Nations]

The best republic is one that collapses into monarchy.

[Community Values]

Opinions on the best republic?

Wrong

Once California forms a breakaway state led by Jill Stein called the Californian Soviet Republic, I'll agree with you.

[Taihei Tengoku]

Opinions on the best republic?

Utterly decrepit failed state.

It was a country formed in the ruins of an empire by a coalition of Soc Dems and Marxists who couldn't agree on much of anything, so when the Marxists inevitably went full Commie and started rioting in the streets the Soc Dems had to beg the military they previously spurned for help, eventually resulting in the Marxists being rounded up and killed, and power falling almost exclusively in the hands of the Soc Dems.

Naturally, they couldn't rule for shit, so Hindenberg had to come out of retirement and desperately try to keep the dying country together until he said fuck it and handed power to a bunch of angry populists.

All in all, it was a pretty shit tier republic.

It was good under Stresemann, who knew what the game was and positioned himself as America's European foil. If not for him dying young and the Depression (THANKS FEDERAL RESERVE) it would have achieved what the ECSC and the EU did--the willing recentering of Europe on Germany, where its ordoliberalism paired with its labor-improving institutions made it the productive heart of Europe. It would have done so peacefully and without a second war where Germany tried to do the this by force, ruining the rest of Europe in the process.

[Northern Davincia]

The best republic is one that collapses into monarchy.

Gross. The only place for a crown is in the trash.

[Proctopeo]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Social_Republic

You're wrong. This is the best republic.

Not even top 5.
5. 2nd Spanish Republic
4. 1st Portuguese Republic
3. The first 2 French republics
2. Republic of China (during Yuan Shikai's presidency)
1. The Weimar Republic

Weimar is literally second-worst Germany, and worst Germany came directly out of it

[Sanctissima]

Utterly decrepit failed state.

It was a country formed in the ruins of an empire by a coalition of Soc Dems and Marxists who couldn't agree on much of anything, so when the Marxists inevitably went full Commie and started rioting in the streets the Soc Dems had to beg the military they previously spurned for help, eventually resulting in the Marxists being rounded up and killed, and power falling almost exclusively in the hands of the Soc Dems.

Naturally, they couldn't rule for shit, so Hindenberg had to come out of retirement and desperately try to keep the dying country together until he said fuck it and handed power to a bunch of angry populists.

All in all, it was a pretty shit tier republic.

It was good under Stresemann, who knew what the game was and positioned himself as America's European foil. If not for him dying young and the Depression (THANKS FEDERAL RESERVE) it would have achieved what the ECSC and the EU did--the willing recentering of Europe on Germany, where its ordoliberalism paired with its labor-improving institutions made it the productive heart of Europe. It would have done so peacefully and without a second war where Germany tried to do the this by force, ruining the rest of Europe in the process.

Eh, he made the best of a bad situation, but I doubt he could have pulled off what Adenauer eventually did several decades later. He couldn't keep the Soc Dems on side, and the situation was really just too dire for anything short of gradual recovery to occur. Nevermind that the remaining European empires, while weak, were by no means in as bad a shape as they would be post-WWII, thus eliminating what was a necessary prerequisite for an economically united Europe to seem like a desirable prospect. As such, I doubt an EU equivalent centered on Germany would have formed, even if Stresemann had lived longer and the Great Depression not occurred.

[HMS Queen Elizabeth]

Germany should've just let the Soviets invade and then positioned itself as loyal paladin of the Second Entente. Then they would probably have got a fair amount of their eastern empire.

[Australias (Ancient)]

The best republic is one that collapses into monarchy.

Gross. The only place for a crown is in the trash.

Nah, just sell it as something for history collectors to have.

[Salus Maior]

The best republic is one that collapses into monarchy.

Gross. The only place for a crown is in the trash.

That's an odd way to say revolutionaries/republicans :^)

[Victoriala II]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Social_Republic

You're wrong. This is the best republic.

Not even top 5.
5. 2nd Spanish Republic
4. 1st Portuguese Republic
3. The first 2 French republics
2. Republic of China (during Yuan Shikai's presidency)
1. The Weimar Republic

>2nd Spanish

C-comrade?

[Salus Maior]

Opinions on the best republic?

Best republic was French first republic.

Cause it gave way to a superior Imperial monarchy

[Genivaria]

Opinions on the best republic?

Best republic was French first republic.

Cause it gave way to a superior Imperial monarchy

Which proves only that the best monarchs are best produced by meritocratic republics.

[The Liberated Territories]

The best republic is one that collapses into monarchy.

Gross. The only place for a crown is in the trash.

Or on my head.

[Salus Maior]

Best republic was French first republic.

Cause it gave way to a superior Imperial monarchy

Which proves only that the best monarchs are best produced by meritocratic republics.

Or by hording land and power until you can overthrow the Republic

[Genivaria]

Which proves only that the best monarchs are best produced by meritocratic republics.

Or by hording land and power until you can overthrow the Republic

"Hey guys I have an idea, let's threaten a beloved General who currently has a big ass army for no reason other than we're insecure"
Granted that it was a Republic but the Senate deserved to be overthrown considering they're even more guilty of "hording land and power".
Slave labor means good Roman citizens don't get paid.

[Salus Maior]

Or by hording land and power until you can overthrow the Republic

"Hey guys I have an idea, let's threaten a beloved General who currently has a big ass army for no reason other than we're insecure"
Granted that it was a Republic but the Senate deserved to be overthrown considering they're even more guilty of "hording land and power".
Slave labor means good Roman citizens don't get paid.

Even by Senate standards Julius took far more for himself than anyone else in the Senate (Caesar was also in the Senate you know).

Most players in the Senate would only get two territories for themselves to own and govern, but Caesar got like, 4 or 5.

[Old Tyrannia]

Opinions on the best republic?

If Weimar was the "best republic," I'd shudder to see what the "worst republic" looks like.

The real best republic.

[War Gears]

Daily reminder that Charles I did nothing wrong and Oliver Cromwell's corpse got what it deserved.

[Old Tyrannia]

Daily reminder that Charles I did nothing wrong and Oliver Cromwell's corpse got what it deserved.

In a rare development, I agree with you.

[War Gears]

Daily reminder that Charles I did nothing wrong and Oliver Cromwell's corpse got what it deserved.

In a rare development, I agree with you.

You'd have to be a fool to think that I would side with a Puritan over a good Stuart.

[Old Tyrannia]

On another note, today is the 3rd anniversary of the day that Scottish voters rejected secession and renewed their commitment to the union of the British nations. Three cheers for glorious Scotland!