Right Wing Discussion Thread IX: The Right Man's Burden

[Socialist Czechia]

Shouldn't be every right winger more or less monarchist? If we went back to times when this dichotomy started.

By that logic, every left-winger should be a radically liberal bourgie.

Isn't it just exactly that, though? When I see the hipsters at university preaching against meat, Assad or China, it looks just like that...

[The East Marches II]

This is your Daily Reminder that economists are right about how money came about and every else is clearly wrong.

[Senkaku]

This is your Daily Reminder that economists are right about how money came about and every else is clearly wrong.

take your elitist expert shit and get out of town, this is donald trump's america we don't need u any more

we can stock market on our own now

[The East Marches II]

This is your Daily Reminder that economists are right about how money came about and every else is clearly wrong.

take your elitist expert shit and get out of town, this is donald trump's america we don't need u any more

we can stock market on our own now

[Minzerland II]

'What are Augurs or the Sibylline Books?'
t. CM

"Will we win y/n" =/= Divine instruction.

Also tell me more about the Sibylline books which weren't rarely consulted and eventually lost.

The Augur's duty was to interpret the will of the Gods, which was the closest thing to communication between Rome and the Gods, literally the closest thing to the Gods ever saying anything. The Romans would, therefore, depending on the will of the Gods, pursue their actions with the sanction of the Gods; basically what I said in my initial response.

The Sibylline Books were still consulted and its rare use is irrelevant.

A bunch of bickering factions who likely weren't always punishing 'people cruelly to maintain order and civilisation' as you claim. They more than likely cruelly punished people in the name of the Senate and their own power, just like someone would in the name of the Crown.

"Th-the Senate totally was a united force that agreed on what would preserve their own power and totally weren't at each other's throats all the time =^^^("

So the Senate of Rome wasn't always punishing 'people cruelly to maintain order and civilisation'? They all had their agendas and they were at each other's throats all the time; a lot were even trying to maintain order and civilisation, but to say that they always sought to punish 'people cruelly to maintain order and civilisation' is fucking farcical. To say that Rome always sought to do so is farcical.

>implying Kings could ignore tradition and public opinion

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Romaboos were a mistake.

Tell me more about how kings didn't convert their entire countries because 'muh swords'. Tell me more about how that is in service to tradition and public opinion.

Vous êtes vaillants, nous le sommes :
Guidez-nous contre les tyrans ;
Les républicains sont des hommes,
Les esclaves sont des enfants.

[Imperium Centralium]

Including the invention of money? :^)

A trap, do I engage in further Rome shilling or admit my economist roots? Rome had the first true monetary system :^))))))))))

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Chinese_coinage

[The East Marches II]

A trap, do I engage in further Rome shilling or admit my economist roots? Rome had the first true monetary system :^))))))))))

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Chinese_coinage

It had a hole in the middle, doesn't count

Boom, problem solved.

[Napkiraly]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Chinese_coinage

It had a hole in the middle, doesn't count

Boom, problem solved.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydia#First_coinage

Now TEM runs into a further problem: does he shill for the proto-Turks or not.

[Imperium Centralium]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Chinese_coinage

It had a hole in the middle, doesn't count

Boom, problem solved.

This only shows how dumb Rome was because a string to carry the coins around with is much cheaper than a whole wallet

[War Gears]

Shouldn't be every right winger more or less monarchist? If we went back to times when this dichotomy started.

By that logic, every left-winger should be a radically liberal bourgie.

Or this guy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_de_Sade

[-Jochistan-]

It had a hole in the middle, doesn't count

Boom, problem solved.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydia#First_coinage

Now TEM runs into a further problem: does he shill for the proto-Turks or not.

But those aren't proto Turks, these are https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Göktürks

[-Jochistan-]

By that logic, every left-winger should be a radically liberal bourgie.

Isn't it just exactly that, though? When I see the hipsters at university preaching against meat, Assad or China, it looks just like that...

Uh, I'm pretty sure everyone preaches against China

[War Gears]

Christians when persecuted: "I-it's so unfair =^^^^("
Christians when persecuting: "They deserved it because we are the kind and just ones"

I find it perfectly just to destroy religions that practice human sacrifice and are generally without virtue. Although I've never said the former or anything like it anyhow.

> implying that the Roman religious practices were unified doctrines which human sacrifices were an important component of.

Also, those Buddhists in East Asia sure were sacrificing people.

[-Jochistan-]

No, he just converted and persecuted pagans. What a difference.

What a travesty.

The problem with that is that the Christian definition of pagan is pretty much "everyone whose not us".

Also Neoplatonism was Western Civilization's greatest religion/philosophy.

[War Gears]

What a travesty.

Christians when persecuted: "I-it's so unfair =^^^^("
Christians when persecuting: "They deserved it because we are the kind and just ones"

"Hideyoshi....

get the cross."

[Curtie]

I don't mind the hair though, neither the curtain nor the carpet.

Personally, my hair doesn't matter as such also, nor do my special featherly carpet, however, my https://hovement.com/best-soundproof-curtains/ means everything. I don't only get the needed cushion against my neighbors' noisy kids but also benefit from an envied stlish interior look.

[War Gears]

Why should either UMN or Parkus seek the sympathy or approval of anyone on NS?

Because they love their religion and want people to understand and appreciate it as much as they do?

Unless they're just in it to be judgemental and Russian supremacists, which I'm 100% sure UMN is.

You and many others have had no intention of taking Christianity, or Orthodoxy in particular, seriously anyway.

Christianity is basically the mother of Europe, and it preserved much of Roman knowledge.

It was Christianity and Christian virtues which were what made Europe what it is today and preserved classical wisdom, not immolating people alive for Woden or raiding coasts.

Look at all this hatred for Christianity, we're going to need to bring back blasphemy laws to charge me with all this slander.

I wouldn't be so holier-than-thou (which is seemingly impossible for you) if I were you,

If only you realized the irony, Felrik.

m8, you've done a swell job yourself at making both your ideology and religion unsympathetic through your own pontification.

If I am an unpleasant human being, which I may well be when dealing with a thread of such unlikable folk as you all, then it would have nothing to do with my religion or ideology (whatever the latter is).

[Herskerstad]

Got a pretty good name, title and banner for the next instalment of this thread.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Why should either UMN or Parkus seek the sympathy or approval of anyone on NS?

Because they love their religion and want people to understand and appreciate it as much as they do?

Unless they're just in it to be judgemental and Russian supremacists, which I'm 100% sure UMN is.

You and many others have had no intention of taking Christianity, or Orthodoxy in particular, seriously anyway.

Christianity is basically the mother of Europe, and it preserved much of Roman knowledge.

It was Christianity and Christian virtues which were what made Europe what it is today and preserved classical wisdom, not immolating people alive for Woden or raiding coasts.

Look at all this hatred for Christianity, we're going to need to bring back blasphemy laws to charge me with all this slander.

I wouldn't be so holier-than-thou (which is seemingly impossible for you) if I were you,

If only you realized the irony, Felrik.

m8, you've done a swell job yourself at making both your ideology and religion unsympathetic through your own pontification.

If I am an unpleasant human being, which I may well be when dealing with a thread of such unlikable folk as you all, then it would have nothing to do with my religion or ideology (whatever the latter is).

If I wanted to be judgemental and a Russian supremacist, I wouldn’t have chosen Orthodoxy.

Also, I attend a Syrian, not Russian church.

[Tekeristan]

I'm a good old godless heathen, heheh.

[-Jochistan-]

Because they love their religion and want people to understand and appreciate it as much as they do?

Unless they're just in it to be judgemental and Russian supremacists, which I'm 100% sure UMN is.




Look at all this hatred for Christianity, we're going to need to bring back blasphemy laws to charge me with all this slander.


If only you realized the irony, Felrik.


If I am an unpleasant human being, which I may well be when dealing with a thread of such unlikable folk as you all, then it would have nothing to do with my religion or ideology (whatever the latter is).

If I wanted to be judgemental and a Russian supremacist, I wouldn’t have chosen Orthodoxy.

Also, I attend a Syrian, not Russian church.

No, you're in it purely for moral reasons. Like a lot of Westerners.

Religion is about quite a bit more than ones personal morals however.

[Luminesa]

Why should either UMN or Parkus seek the sympathy or approval of anyone on NS?

Because they love their religion and want people to understand and appreciate it as much as they do?

Unless they're just in it to be judgemental and Russian supremacists, which I'm 100% sure UMN is.

You and many others have had no intention of taking Christianity, or Orthodoxy in particular, seriously anyway.

Christianity is basically the mother of Europe, and it preserved much of Roman knowledge.

It was Christianity and Christian virtues which were what made Europe what it is today and preserved classical wisdom, not immolating people alive for Woden or raiding coasts.

Look at all this hatred for Christianity, we're going to need to bring back blasphemy laws to charge me with all this slander.

I wouldn't be so holier-than-thou (which is seemingly impossible for you) if I were you,

If only you realized the irony, Felrik.

m8, you've done a swell job yourself at making both your ideology and religion unsympathetic through your own pontification.

If I am an unpleasant human being, which I may well be when dealing with a thread of such unlikable folk as you all, then it would have nothing to do with my religion or ideology (whatever the latter is).

Minze and Fel aren’t the same person.

[Luminesa]

Parkus, UMN, I think that no one on the internet has done such a swell job as you have of making a mockery of your religion and discouraging people from sympathizing with it. You both deserve the award for being the Orthodox Jack Chick's of NS.

Why should either UMN or Parkus seek the sympathy or approval of anyone on NS? You and many others have had no intention of taking Christianity, or Orthodoxy in particular, seriously anyway. You are perhaps better than others, but not by much.

I wouldn't be so holier-than-thou (which is seemingly impossible for you) if I were you, m8, you've done a swell job yourself at making both your ideology and religion unsympathetic through your own pontification.

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Fam, he wasn’t giving you sympathy. He compared you to Jack Chick. And there is no bigger liar in the Christian world than Jack Chick...except Joel Osteen and his bunch, but we’d be going off-topic. Nobody is giving you sympathy. We doubt that would get through your 8-inch lead wall of pretend humility. Remember that Catholics are Christians too,

This is a weird criticism. Where did Parkus ever claim Catholics are not Christians? No where, to my knowledge. All he said was that Catholics are 'interested in the sympathy of the world', to paraphrase, which is false but not exactly 'Catholics are no Christians'.

and just because we are viewed as foolish doesn’t mean we have to actively perpetuate foolishness to the world. That’s your personal preference, and you have no right to try and drag the rest of the Christian world down for not being exactly like you.

What foolishness is Parkus perpetuating? Orthodoxy? Parkus, as I read it, only said that Christianity has and will be seen as foolish to many. If we are indeed seen as foolish, then we are already dragging ourselves down; to change this would require us to change our ways.

He was presuming that Christians should not care about the foolishness of the world-which is not entirely off, we shouldn’t care too much about what people say-though when people have misconceptions about the Church we should correct them with kindness and honesty. The point is that evangelization requires teaching truth alongside mercy. And War Gears has a point. A good Christian should love their faith and they should have joy preaching their faith, rather than desiring to perpetually self-flagellate to show how holy they are, then shunning everyone who disagrees with them. Which is what Parkus has been doing. It has nothing to do with Orthodoxy itself.

[Luminesa]

If I wanted to be judgemental and a Russian supremacist, I wouldn’t have chosen Orthodoxy.

Also, I attend a Syrian, not Russian church.

No, you're in it purely for moral reasons. Like a lot of Westerners.

Religion is about quite a bit more than ones personal morals however.

Tell us, oh great wise non-Western one, who is actually a Westerner, what you joined your religion for.

[Conserative Morality]

Tell us, oh great wise non-Western one, who is actually a Westerner, what you joined your religion for.

Style?