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Was the Reformation a good thing?

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2 - Neutral.
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3 - No.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:27 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Cotton destroyed the south.


Please explain more, I wish to hear your analysis.

"Let's become hyper-dependent on one cash crop while everyone else industrializes. =^^^)"
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:27 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Please explain more, I wish to hear your analysis.

It's true though! The blacks intentionally enslaved themselves to pick the cotton and have the North sympathize with them, invading the South

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OH GOD OH MY GOD JESUS CHRIST THAT WAS 10/10 ISIS SHIT RIGHT THERE.
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Postby The Portland Territory » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:29 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:It's true though! The blacks intentionally enslaved themselves to pick the cotton and have the North sympathize with them, invading the South

12d Chess here

OH GOD OH MY GOD JESUS CHRIST THAT WAS 10/10 ISIS SHIT RIGHT THERE.

Should I be concerned for your health or mine right now?
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Postby The Portland Territory » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:29 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Please explain more, I wish to hear your analysis.

It caused the Southern economy to be dependent on one resource, limiting its industrial development. By the time of of the Civil War, the North had something like 97% of arms manufacturing capability.

To be fair, the South didn't really want to industrialize. Except for cotton production........
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:33 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:OH GOD OH MY GOD JESUS CHRIST THAT WAS 10/10 ISIS SHIT RIGHT THERE.

Should I be concerned for your health or mine right now?

Hey I'm just using my 'Advanced' sense of humor.
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Postby The Founding Fatherland » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:34 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:It caused the Southern economy to be dependent on one resource, limiting its industrial development. By the time of of the Civil War, the North had something like 97% of arms manufacturing capability.

To be fair, the South didn't really want to industrialize. Except for cotton production........


Which was stupid.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:34 pm

The Founding Fatherland wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:To be fair, the South didn't really want to industrialize. Except for cotton production........


Which was stupid.

Hey, they tried to make good cotton shields, and for that, I give them kudos.
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:35 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Please explain more, I wish to hear your analysis.

"Let's become hyper-dependent on one cash crop while everyone else industrializes. =^^^)"


"Lets pass on that delicious British money :^))))))))))))))"

You are arguing in favor of anti-free trade, do you realize what a heresy you've committed?
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Postby The Portland Territory » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:35 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:Should I be concerned for your health or mine right now?

Hey I'm just using my 'Advanced' sense of humor.

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/isis

Uberadvanced is mine as well!
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:35 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:It caused the Southern economy to be dependent on one resource, limiting its industrial development. By the time of of the Civil War, the North had something like 97% of arms manufacturing capability.

To be fair, the South didn't really want to industrialize. Except for cotton production........

Which is why they stood no chance against the Union.
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The Founding Fatherland
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Postby The Founding Fatherland » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:36 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:To be fair, the South didn't really want to industrialize. Except for cotton production........

Which is why they stood no chance against the Union.


Which is why they stood no chance against *America.
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:38 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:To be fair, the South didn't really want to industrialize. Except for cotton production........

Which is why they stood no chance against the Union.


Mr. anti-deterministic history is giving into that. They made us look like chumps for the first part of the war. Gettysburg could have gone either way, and the British could have gotten involved.

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Postby The Portland Territory » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:40 pm

The Founding Fatherland wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Which is why they stood no chance against the Union.


Which is why they stood no chance against *America.

Which is why they stood no chance against *le 56% face.
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Postby The Founding Fatherland » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:40 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Which is why they stood no chance against the Union.


Mr. anti-deterministic history is giving into that. They made us look like chumps for the first part of the war. Gettysburg could have gone either way, and the British could have gotten involved.


That makes no sense. The British had already abolished slavery for one thing, and IIRC Britain was producing it's own cotton by this time and thus didn't need to import it.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:40 pm

Jake Paul is a Trump Supporter. What do you think?
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:42 pm

The Founding Fatherland wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Mr. anti-deterministic history is giving into that. They made us look like chumps for the first part of the war. Gettysburg could have gone either way, and the British could have gotten involved.


That makes no sense. The British had already abolished slavery for one thing, and IIRC Britain was producing it's own cotton by this time and thus didn't need to import it.


The Anglo has no allies, he merely has mercantile interests.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:42 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:"Let's become hyper-dependent on one cash crop while everyone else industrializes. =^^^)"


"Lets pass on that delicious British money :^))))))))))))))"

You are arguing in favor of anti-free trade, do you realize what a heresy you've committed?

British money isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
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Postby The Portland Territory » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:42 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:Jake Paul is a Trump Supporter. What do you think?

https://www.change.org/p/donald-trump-b ... aces-again

If anyone wants to sign this.........
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:43 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
"Lets pass on that delicious British money :^))))))))))))))"

You are arguing in favor of anti-free trade, do you realize what a heresy you've committed?

British money isn't worth the paper it's printed on.


The Pound has always been a safe store of value.

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:44 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Jake Paul is a Trump Supporter. What do you think?

https://www.change.org/p/donald-trump-b ... aces-again

If anyone wants to sign this.........

OMFG THIS IS GOING ON 4CHAN
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Postby The Portland Territory » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:44 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:https://www.change.org/p/donald-trump-b ... aces-again

If anyone wants to sign this.........

OMFG THIS IS GOING ON 4CHAN

Put that on /toy/ for all the children to see. They're bound to support it
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Postby The Founding Fatherland » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:46 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:Jake Paul is a Trump Supporter. What do you think?


Who?

The East Marches II wrote:
The Founding Fatherland wrote:
That makes no sense. The British had already abolished slavery for one thing, and IIRC Britain was producing it's own cotton by this time and thus didn't need to import it.


The Anglo has no allies, he merely has mercantile interests.


Importing a resource you already produce in ample quantities doesn't sound like good business sense to me, but okay.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:48 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Cotton destroyed the south.


Please explain more, I wish to hear your analysis.

Made the stronghold of agrarianism into crypto-materialists who plunged the country into a civil war because $$$. The legacy of that was just as bad, as it tainted all agrarian southern politics with race as the hidden concern.
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:48 pm

The Founding Fatherland wrote:
Importing a resource you already produce in ample quantities doesn't sound like good business sense to me, but okay.


>Not wanting a puppet state to exploit in the Americas
>Not wanting to sell them arms and forever indebt them
>Not wanting helping to win and guarantee your profits plus a weakened foe

You underestimate the perfidy of the Anglo

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Postby The Founding Fatherland » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:49 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
The Founding Fatherland wrote:
Importing a resource you already produce in ample quantities doesn't sound like good business sense to me, but okay.


>Not wanting a puppet state to exploit in the Americas
>Not wanting to sell them arms and forever indebt them
>Not wanting helping to win and guarantee your profits plus a weakened foe

You underestimate the perfidy of the Anglo


Now I remember why I hate empires, thanks.
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