Right Wing Discussion Thread IX: The Right Man's Burden

[Albrenia]

Venerated in both the Orthodox and Catholic Churches too, fam-bam.

Oh yeah, they venerate Saints that did because they don't want to do anything themselves.

They're more concerned about hardcore nationalism, ultraconservative moral fixations and fancy robes.

They're like Hasidic Jews on Speed.

Seems a bit harsh.

[War Gears]

Oh yeah, they generate Saints that did because they don't want to.

They're more concerned about hardcore nationalism, ultraconservative moral fixations and fancy robes.

They're like Hasidic Jews on Speed.

And you’re not into “hardcore nationalism”?

As someone who knows him pretty well, I can safely say that Jochi is not nationalist in the slightest, much less "hardcore nationalist."

[Sanctissima]

Heresy!

Truth be told I find Daoism to be the most natural and reality-based of all religions, hence my appeal for it. The problem with placing too much value with yin or yang is that it inherently creates a state of unnecessary and unhealthy imbalance. Yin focuses too much on order and earthly matters, whereas Yang focuses too much on the spiritual and more philosophical matters. The extreme of the former is a control freak, whereas the extreme of the latter is an ascetic.

Combined however, in they achieve equilibrium, and complement one another.

You'd think a former fashyboo would appreciate the equilibrium of extremes. :^)

As someone who finds next to nothing appealing about masculinity, I'm pretty content with a feminine extreme. Unfortunately some of the dualistic influence found it's way into Shinto and perverted the more feminine-centric element of it.

Eh, Yang isn't so much exclusively masculine as much as it is the chaotic component of the human psyche. It's as much associated with light and the realm of spirits as it is with the male gender.

Daoist dualism influenced Shintoism due to the natural dominance and hegemony of Papa Zhongguo over little Baby Nippon. :^)

[Luminesa]

And you’re not into “hardcore nationalism”?

As someone who knows him pretty well, I can safely say that Jochi is not nationalist in the slightest, much less "hardcore nationalist."

Just making sure.

[-Jochistan-]

Oh yeah, they generate Saints that did because they don't want to.

They're more concerned about hardcore nationalism, ultraconservative moral fixations and fancy robes.

They're like Hasidic Jews on Speed.

And you’re not into “hardcore nationalism”?

Only in self defense.

Ethnic groups aren't doormats. Won't complain if they decide to fight back against something.
Like in the case of Palestine or the Kurds.

But I'm really not a fan of violent ethnic expansionism.

[Luminesa]

And you’re not into “hardcore nationalism”?

Only in self defense.

Ethnic groups aren't doormats. Won't complain if they decide to fight back against something.

So “hardcore nationalism” only in self-defense?...Son that doesn’t make any sense!

[Fauxia]

Venerated in both the Orthodox and Catholic Churches too, fam-bam.

Oh yeah, they venerate Saints that did because they don't want to do anything themselves.

They're more concerned about hardcore nationalism, ultraconservative moral fixations and fancy robes.

They're like Hasidic Jews on Speed.

Because providing 1/3 of all charity donations in the US isn’t doing something?

[The East Marches II]

And you’re not into “hardcore nationalism”?

Only in self defense.

Ethnic groups aren't doormats. Won't complain if they decide to fight back against something.
Like in the case of Palestine or the Kurds.

[-Jochistan-]

Only in self defense.

Ethnic groups aren't doormats. Won't complain if they decide to fight back against something.

So “hardcore nationalism” only in self-defense?...Son that doesn’t make any sense!

Well, it depends on what you mean by nationalism. If you mean the belief in the supremacy and imperial destiny of an ethnic group or something along those lines, then no. Under no circumstances would I seriously advocate racial or cultural supremacy.

If you mean the system of organization against some form of tyranny by a culture and a sense of pride to go with it, then no I don't have a problem with that.

Depends on context for the nationalism

[War Gears]

As someone who finds next to nothing appealing about masculinity, I'm pretty content with a feminine extreme. Unfortunately some of the dualistic influence found it's way into Shinto and perverted the more feminine-centric element of it.

Eh, Yang isn't so much exclusively masculine as much as it is the chaotic component of the human psyche. It's as much associated with light and the realm of spirits as it is with the male gender.

Daoist dualism influenced Shintoism due to the natural dominance and hegemony of Papa Zhongguo over little Baby Nippon. :^)

It's pretty strongly associated with masculinity, at least in early texts, and that's what finds it's way into influencing early Shinto (though the amount of foreign influence on the Kojiki is minimal, it's a very native work).

[Northern Davincia]

And you’re not into “hardcore nationalism”?

Only in self defense.

Ethnic groups aren't doormats. Won't complain if they decide to fight back against something.
Like in the case of Palestine or the Kurds.

But I'm really not a fan of violent ethnic expansionism.

Palestine (especially their attempts at resistance) is a joke. An unfunny one, but a joke nonetheless.

[-Jochistan-]

Only in self defense.

Ethnic groups aren't doormats. Won't complain if they decide to fight back against something.
Like in the case of Palestine or the Kurds.

But I'm really not a fan of violent ethnic expansionism.

Palestine (especially their attempts at resistance) is a joke. An unfunny one, but a joke nonetheless.

The meek shall inherit the earth babe

[Hakons]

Venerated in both the Orthodox and Catholic Churches too, fam-bam.

Oh yeah, they venerate Saints that did because they don't want to do anything themselves.

They're more concerned about hardcore nationalism, ultraconservative moral fixations and fancy robes.

They're like Hasidic Jews on Speed.

Stop talking out of your arse. Religious institutions provide daily aid to the impoverished just about anywhere in the world.

[Northern Davincia]

Palestine (especially their attempts at resistance) is a joke. An unfunny one, but a joke nonetheless.

The meek shall inherit the earth babe

*Ayn Rand intensifies*

[-Jochistan-]

Oh yeah, they venerate Saints that did because they don't want to do anything themselves.

They're more concerned about hardcore nationalism, ultraconservative moral fixations and fancy robes.

They're like Hasidic Jews on Speed.

Stop talking out of your arse. Religious institutions provide daily aid to the impoverished just about anywhere in the world.

I'm not arguing they don't. Not anti religious in the least bit. I'm just saying Orthodox Christians tend to have issues. And their Church itches to force them on everyone else.

[Luminesa]

Palestine (especially their attempts at resistance) is a joke. An unfunny one, but a joke nonetheless.

The meek shall inherit the earth babe

Then it looks like you’re not getting a single penny.

Furthermore, why not a two-state solution? Israel and Palestine exist in peace?

[-Jochistan-]

The meek shall inherit the earth babe

Then it looks like you’re not getting a single penny.

Furthermore, why not a two-state solution? Israel and Palestine exist in peace?

Because Israel is an invasive settler state. And needs to be flushed out.

[Luminesa]

Then it looks like you’re not getting a single penny.

Furthermore, why not a two-state solution? Israel and Palestine exist in peace?

Because Israel is an invasive settler state.

And you don’t think that can be changed maybe? What do you propose?

[Hakons]

Then it looks like you’re not getting a single penny.

Furthermore, why not a two-state solution? Israel and Palestine exist in peace?

Because Israel is an invasive settler state. And needs to be flushed out.

Israel is the spearhead of Western Civilization returning to the Middle East. The Mandates never should have been disbanded.

[War Gears]

Because Israel is an invasive settler state. And needs to be flushed out.

Israel is the spearhead of Western Civilization returning to the Middle East. The Mandates never should have been disbanded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

Doesn't seem very Western or civilized, to be honest.

[Albrenia]

I think they might need to stop murdering each other and try to work their issues out like rational people. Unfortunately they have feuds so deep and old that it seems unlikely.

[-Jochistan-]

Because Israel is an invasive settler state. And needs to be flushed out.

Israel is the spearhead of Western Civilization returning to the Middle East. The Mandates never should have been disbanded.

[Hakons]

Israel is the spearhead of Western Civilization returning to the Middle East. The Mandates never should have been disbanded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

Doesn't seem very Western or civilized, to be honest.

>nuclear weapons were invented by westerners

Please, Israelis are very civilized and are largely Westerners. Much of the population is descended from Europ.

[The East Marches II]

Israel is the spearhead of Western Civilization returning to the Middle East. The Mandates never should have been disbanded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

Doesn't seem very Western or civilized, to be honest.

It seems very Western, madness to ensure survival. The logical conclusion of nukes.

[The Parkus Empire]

No, literally the Dao incarnate. The Word is not conscious entity except as a placeholder. The Word is beyond being and prefigures reality. The Word does not think, at least not in a mechanical sense, because the Word does not deliberate. The Word does as the Word is, and the Word's doing (energies) is enternal and without change. And the Word, which is superreal, became man; not changing the nature of the Word, but adding and binding a human nature with thought and will.

Your lot came up with the Trinity, not me.

Jesus is quintessentially a reincarnation of God in human form. Or at least, that's the simplest way I can explain centuries of Christian theology regarding the role of the Son within the Trinity.

Hence, an avatar of the Dao, but not the Dao per se. If we were to apply it in Daoist terms.

Which, again, doesn't really fit in with Daoist cosmology since the Dao isn't really considered to be a conscious entity. Hell, it's barely even considered an entity at all, but moreso the natural rhythm of the universe.

God is not technically an entity or being in Orthodoxy. He is rather the predicate of being