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Was the Reformation a good thing?

1 - Yes.
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2 - Neutral.
76
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3 - No.
66
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Albrenia
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Postby Albrenia » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:32 pm

War Gears wrote:
Albrenia wrote:I've got a phrenology head on my desk as we speak. Pseudoscience can be very interesting, in some ways.


I find it interesting in the same way that online tests are. In that, it doesn't have any substance, but still fun to see.


The mental gymnastics of those who defend or spread it is of particular interest to me.

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:34 pm

War Gears wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Makes one wonder.
If they weren't so fucking genocide happy who hear would've joined up with them?


If they weren't genocidal, I'd have supported them over the Bolsheviks. My main reason for preferring a USSR victory is that the Nazis had made numerous plans to ethnically cleanse Eastern Europe through exterminations, deportations, apartheid, forced sterilization, etc. If all they wanted to do was introduce Germanic civilization to the Russians and get rid of their culture, I could get 100% behind that.

I actually remember reading at one point that many Russian/Slavic civilians at first welcomed the German soldiers with open arms as liberators from Bolshevism.
Then the death squads came in.

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Taihei Tengoku
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Postby Taihei Tengoku » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:36 pm

War Gears wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Makes one wonder.
If they weren't so fucking genocide happy who hear would've joined up with them?


If they weren't genocidal, I'd have supported them over the Bolsheviks. My main reason for preferring a USSR victory is that the Nazis had made numerous plans to ethnically cleanse Eastern Europe through exterminations, deportations, apartheid, forced sterilization, etc. If all they wanted to do was introduce Germanic civilization to the Russians and get rid of their culture, I could get 100% behind that.

"If they weren't genocidal" is like saying "I would support Bolshevism if they didn't insist on collectivization"

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:45 pm

Genivaria wrote:
War Gears wrote:
If they weren't genocidal, I'd have supported them over the Bolsheviks. My main reason for preferring a USSR victory is that the Nazis had made numerous plans to ethnically cleanse Eastern Europe through exterminations, deportations, apartheid, forced sterilization, etc. If all they wanted to do was introduce Germanic civilization to the Russians and get rid of their culture, I could get 100% behind that.

I actually remember reading at one point that many Russian/Slavic civilians at first welcomed the German soldiers with open arms as liberators from Bolshevism.
Then the death squads came in.


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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:48 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I actually remember reading at one point that many Russian/Slavic civilians at first welcomed the German soldiers with open arms as liberators from Bolshevism.
Then the death squads came in.


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Place me at .5.

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:29 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I actually remember reading at one point that many Russian/Slavic civilians at first welcomed the German soldiers with open arms as liberators from Bolshevism.
Then the death squads came in.


Image

Here's some OC.
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The Portland Territory
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Postby The Portland Territory » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:32 pm

Well my thread went well.......

Back into the hidey hole of my thoughts
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The East Marches II
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:35 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:Well my thread went well.......

Back into the hidey hole of my thoughts


Which thread? Also how goes the Bannon front?

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Image

Here's some OC.


This is your daily reminder Carthage had it coming. Also they sacrificed babies, its totally true and actually not a meme.

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:35 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:Well my thread went well.......

Back into the hidey hole of my thoughts

You had a thread?

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:37 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:Well my thread went well.......

Back into the hidey hole of my thoughts


Which thread? Also how goes the Bannon front?

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Here's some OC.


This is your daily reminder Carthage had it coming. Also they sacrificed babies, its totally true and actually not a meme.

Tfw you remember the Carthage opening speech from RTW.
Carthage: Last night, the crying of the children kept me awake...and I had a terrible vision. I saw the fall of our city: bleached bones under a harsh sun; Carthage, gone! Why would Baal send such a vision? He is not cruel; he has watched over us. We have had victories aplenty in war. Our merchants sail to all corners of the world. Yet even now, I fear. I cannot help it. We are the envy of lesser men. They tell terrible lies about us. They do not understand, so they lie. But the Romans, they are the masters of falsehood. War will come, I am sure of it. So. I will have no more false visions...and I think the children will be quiet tonight.

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:37 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:Well my thread went well.......

Back into the hidey hole of my thoughts

I liked it. I think the slippery slope is real. 10 years ago, the most liberal President in the country's history was against homosexual marriage, and now the country pretty much universally recognizes the "right" of men to turn their penises inside-out. At this rate, in 50 years, age of consent will be gotten rid of.
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Postby Albrenia » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:37 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:Well my thread went well.......

Back into the hidey hole of my thoughts


I've seen people's threads go way worse, to be fair.

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:38 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:Well my thread went well.......

Back into the hidey hole of my thoughts

I liked it. I think the slippery slope is real. 10 years ago, the most liberal President in the country's history was against homosexual marriage, and now the country pretty much universally recognizes the "right" of men to turn their penises inside-out. At this rate, in 50 years, age of consent will be gotten rid of.

What's funny is I would've used a quote like this as a parody of the slippery slope.

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Postby Albrenia » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:38 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:Well my thread went well.......

Back into the hidey hole of my thoughts

I liked it. I think the slippery slope is real. 10 years ago, the most liberal President in the country's history was against homosexual marriage, and now the country pretty much universally recognizes the "right" of men to turn their penises inside-out. At this rate, in 50 years, age of consent will be gotten rid of.


You seem a bit confused about homosexuality, my friend.

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Postby War Gears » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:38 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:

Here's some OC.


Listen here barbarian.
Parasparopagraho Jīvānām.

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United Muscovite Nations
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:38 pm

Albrenia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I liked it. I think the slippery slope is real. 10 years ago, the most liberal President in the country's history was against homosexual marriage, and now the country pretty much universally recognizes the "right" of men to turn their penises inside-out. At this rate, in 50 years, age of consent will be gotten rid of.


You seem a bit confused about homosexuality, my friend.

The extreme change in sexual norms is unprecedented in the history of the Western world in such a short time. Nothing is off the table.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:40 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
You seem a bit confused about homosexuality, my friend.

The extreme change in sexual norms is unprecedented in the history of the Western world in such a short time. Nothing is off the table.

Just think, one day women might be legally allowed to say no to her husband when he asks for sex.
The horror!
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:42 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Genivaria wrote:They didn't view Scots and Irish as Celtic like the old caricatures?

My mistake, (Irish-Iberian)


I can confirm that this is infact correct. This is good science.

You'd say anything for Turkish gold!
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War Gears
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Postby War Gears » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:43 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:Well my thread went well.......

Back into the hidey hole of my thoughts

I liked it. I think the slippery slope is real. 10 years ago, the most liberal President in the country's history was against homosexual marriage, and now the country pretty much universally recognizes the "right" of men to turn their penises inside-out. At this rate, in 50 years, age of consent will be gotten rid of.


Letting people have sexual reassignment surgery and getting married is not going to result in rape being legalized.

Hopefully we get rid of Christianity one day.
Parasparopagraho Jīvānām.

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:43 pm

Genivaria wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:The extreme change in sexual norms is unprecedented in the history of the Western world in such a short time. Nothing is off the table.

Just think, one day women might be legally allowed to say no to her husband when he asks for sex.
The horror!

I'm just saying, when our sexual code of conduct is down to nothing but arbitrary distinctions in the law code, that are easily rewritten, that should make us worried.
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Postby Senkaku » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:45 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Just think, one day women might be legally allowed to say no to her husband when he asks for sex.
The horror!

I'm just saying, when our sexual code of conduct is down to nothing but arbitrary distinctions in the law code, that are easily rewritten, that should make us worried.

Yes, the typical slippery slope bullshit that your lot always loves to squeal about every time there's a proposal to legalize normal sexual behaviors (like saying "no" to someone you don't want to fuck!). How original, this will totally sway me and hold water this time, UMN. Everyone seems to have changed their minds on its validity as an argument this time!
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Postby Husseinarti » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:46 pm

War Gears wrote:If they weren't genocidal, I'd have supported them over the Bolsheviks. My main reason for preferring a USSR victory is that the Nazis had made numerous plans to ethnically cleanse Eastern Europe through exterminations, deportations, apartheid, forced sterilization, etc. If all they wanted to do was introduce Germanic civilization to the Russians and get rid of their culture, I could get 100% behind that.


>I'd be a Nazi if all the Nazis wanted to do was to do what they did.

Congrats, you're a Nazi?

You get all the great incompetence that was the German military machine. Have fun with your 40 Tiger Is breaking down before combat. Have fun trying to bomb England with a shitty air force that barely memed its way in France. Have fun plinking 37mm AP rounds off 'inferior' Slavic T-34s. Have fun losing millions of men in a war that would get your nation divided and totally bombed to shit.

fucking lol

Genivaria wrote:
War Gears wrote:
If they weren't genocidal, I'd have supported them over the Bolsheviks. My main reason for preferring a USSR victory is that the Nazis had made numerous plans to ethnically cleanse Eastern Europe through exterminations, deportations, apartheid, forced sterilization, etc. If all they wanted to do was introduce Germanic civilization to the Russians and get rid of their culture, I could get 100% behind that.

I actually remember reading at one point that many Russian/Slavic civilians at first welcomed the German soldiers with open arms as liberators from Bolshevism.
Then the death squads came in.


Then you should reread it because you're pretty much wrong.

The people who welcomed the German troops were the minorities in Western Russia who historically had been oppressed by the Russian government be it the Bolsheviks or the Tsarist government before.

It wasn't from 'vile juedo-bolsehvism' or whatever Nazi catch-all you use, it was a history of oppression and overall degradation.
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Postby Albrenia » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:46 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Just think, one day women might be legally allowed to say no to her husband when he asks for sex.
The horror!

I'm just saying, when our sexual code of conduct is down to nothing but arbitrary distinctions in the law code, that are easily rewritten, that should make us worried.


When was it not down to anything but law code?

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Postby War Gears » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:46 pm

Genivaria wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:The extreme change in sexual norms is unprecedented in the history of the Western world in such a short time. Nothing is off the table.

Just think, one day women might be legally allowed to say no to her husband when he asks for sex.
The horror!


God apparently doesn't care about women being raped as long as they're married to their rapist.
Parasparopagraho Jīvānām.

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:47 pm

Senkaku wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I'm just saying, when our sexual code of conduct is down to nothing but arbitrary distinctions in the law code, that are easily rewritten, that should make us worried.

Yes, the typical slippery slope bullshit that your lot always loves to squeal about every time there's a proposal to legalize normal sexual behaviors (like saying "no" to someone you don't want to fuck!). How original, this will totally sway me and hold water this time, UMN.

The age of consent at 18 is already a law that's no longer normal; most people become sexually active at younger ages than that, and many states already allow child marriage.
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