Right Wing Discussion Thread IX: The Right Man's Burden

[Salus Maior]

If people started dropping East Asian traditions in favor of Christianity than maybe they weren't that great anyway.

Implying that things such as Misin tapa undong were voluntary.

They tried doing the same in Japan earlier, destroying Buddhist and Shinto places of worship and replacing them with churches. Fortunately Hideyoshi Toyotomi showed them the door.

Well, apparently enough Koreans were on board to make that happen. You make it seem as if it were Europeans forcing it on the native people, but no, it was Koreans who did it to themselves. Just as it was the Romans who did it to themselves.

Yes, by horribly torturing and murdering his own people.

Not much different from what the Spanish did to the Muslims and Jews in Spain.

[Salus Maior]

Implying that things such as Misin tapa undong were voluntary.

They tried doing the same in Japan earlier, destroying Buddhist and Shinto places of worship and replacing them with churches. Fortunately Hideyoshi Toyotomi showed them the door.

Japan should have been militarily occupied by Europe completely when they began crucifying Christians.
I'm not even being ironic.

Not particularly viable.

And besides, some Europeans (the Protestant Dutch) actually helped the Japanese destroy the Catholic Japanese converts.

[Northern Davincia]

Japan should have been militarily occupied by Europe completely when they began crucifying Christians.
I'm not even being ironic.

Not particularly viable.

And besides, some Europeans (the Protestant Dutch) actually helped the Japanese destroy the Catholic Japanese converts.

Then keep them under Catholic occupation. Protestants can keep China.

[Aillyria]

Not particularly viable.

And besides, some Europeans (the Protestant Dutch) actually helped the Japanese destroy the Catholic Japanese converts.

Then keep them under Catholic occupation. Protestants can keep China.

Eh, Japan was in their right to remove unwanted and non-traditional elements from their society...it was none of Europe's business what Japan did with their own people.

[The East Marches II]

Japan should have been militarily occupied by Europe completely when they began crucifying Christians.
I'm not even being ironic.

Not particularly viable.

And besides, some Europeans (the Protestant Dutch) actually helped the Japanese destroy the Catholic Japanese converts.

Of course, Popery has to be dealt with even on the far side of the globe. It was a rational decision on the part of the Dutch :^)

Not that I would approve of such methods of course.

[Salus Maior]

Then keep them under Catholic occupation. Protestants can keep China.

Eh, Japan was in their right to remove unwanted and non-traditional elements from their society...it was none of Europe's business what Japan did with their own people.

Yeah, can't have the peasants thinking that they're worth anything, right?

[The East Marches II]

t. Subverter of the Republic

One day we will be free of you and free to eat up all the corn subsidies

>> tfw TEM's vision of the Republic is the Midwest subsidizing itself with the subsidies it receives forever

It's the path to eternal prosperity, trust me.

>> tfw TEM's vision of the Republic is the Midwest subsidizing itself with the subsidies it receives forever

The Eternal Midwesterner - Destroyer of nations and taker of gibmes.

N-No you can trust us. We've only ever destroyed like one country and may or may not being destroying a second one.

[The East Marches II]

Eh, Japan was in their right to remove unwanted and non-traditional elements from their society...it was none of Europe's business what Japan did with their own people.

Yeah, can't have the peasants thinking that they're worth anything, right?

Yeah, what would they do if they weren't allowed to bribe their way to heaven?

[Salus Maior]

Yeah, can't have the peasants thinking that they're worth anything, right?

Yeah, what would they do if they weren't allowed to bribe their way to heaven?

Well, considering Protestants did nothing to help the Japanese at all I guess that's their only choice, eh?

So much for the Christian charity of Protestants :^)

[The East Marches II]

Yeah, what would they do if they weren't allowed to bribe their way to heaven?

Well, considering Protestants did nothing to help the Japanese at all I guess that's their only choice, eh?

So much for the Christian charity of Protestants :^)

The charity of sparing them the horrors of Papism :^)

Just look, now they don't have to live through the Jesuit Pope

[The Parkus Empire]

Implying that things such as Misin tapa undong were voluntary.

They tried doing the same in Japan earlier, destroying Buddhist and Shinto places of worship and replacing them with churches. Fortunately Hideyoshi Toyotomi showed them the door.

Japan should have been militarily occupied by Europe completely when they began crucifying Christians.
I'm not even being ironic.

That doesn't sound Christian. Christianity embraces martyrdom and opposes fighting those who persecute you.

[Husseinarti]

>all these people slamming different branches of Christianity.

Ah yes, the classic 'my version of smoke fire bush man is better than yours ur dumb!' is always a good topic.

Yeah, can't have the peasants thinking that they're worth anything, right?

Yeah, what would they do if they weren't allowed to bribe their way to heaven?

tip tip tip tip tip tip warning incoming

Because your brand of a Bronze age religion that has been reformed so many times nobody even really knows how many time its been changed is the correct one!

right?

I mean Catholics are p. keky, but don't try to act like its any worse than a Baptist or w/e.

Then keep them under Catholic occupation. Protestants can keep China.

Eh, Japan was in their right to remove unwanted and non-traditional elements from their society...it was none of Europe's business what Japan did with their own people.

This statement can't be used to justify anything whatsoever :/

[Salus Maior]

Well, considering Protestants did nothing to help the Japanese at all I guess that's their only choice, eh?

So much for the Christian charity of Protestants :^)

The charity of sparing them the horrors of Papism :^)

Just look, now they don't have to live through the Jesuit Pope

Eh, Francis isn't too bad. I consider myself on the traditionalist side more or less and I think he's a decent Pope for the most part.

Aside from some minor criticisms.

[The Parkus Empire]

Well, considering Protestants did nothing to help the Japanese at all I guess that's their only choice, eh?

So much for the Christian charity of Protestants :^)

The charity of sparing them the horrors of Papism :^)

Just look, now they don't have to live through the Jesuit Pope

We have countless monastic patriarchs, was never a problem for us. Dunno what went wrong with the Pope here, saying ridiculous things like calling Europe Christian is "colonialist" (which is bad, even though Catholicism spread primarily through it)

[The East Marches II]

>all these people slamming different branches of Christianity.

Ah yes, the classic 'my version of smoke fire bush man is better than yours ur dumb!' is always a good topic.

Yeah, what would they do if they weren't allowed to bribe their way to heaven?

tip tip tip tip tip tip warning incoming

Because your brand of a Bronze age religion that has been reformed so many times nobody even really knows how many time its been changed is the correct one!

right?

I mean Catholics are p. keky, but don't try to act like its any worse than a Baptist or w/e.

Listen we've unfinished business since the Thirty Years war, this pretty normal. The real question is what brings you to this thread? I rarely see you out of the mil thread and guns.

[The Parkus Empire]

The charity of sparing them the horrors of Papism :^)

Just look, now they don't have to live through the Jesuit Pope

Eh, Francis isn't too bad. I consider myself on the traditionalist side more or less and I think he's a decent Pope for the most part.

Aside from some minor criticisms.

No bad for Vatican II standards, I guess.

[Salus Maior]

The charity of sparing them the horrors of Papism :^)

Just look, now they don't have to live through the Jesuit Pope

We have countless monastic patriarchs, was never a problem for us. Dunno what went wrong with the Pope here, saying ridiculous things like calling Europe Christian is "colonialist" (which is bad, even though Catholicism spread primarily through it)

Orthodoxy also spread through colonialism, in Asia through the Ruskies.

And I think the Jesuit criticism is due to the unfortunate fact that they've become rather liberal as a group.

[The East Marches II]

For the record, the Spicy Arab Republic has destroyed Kekistan.

[Husseinarti]

>all these people slamming different branches of Christianity.

Ah yes, the classic 'my version of smoke fire bush man is better than yours ur dumb!' is always a good topic.



tip tip tip tip tip tip warning incoming

Because your brand of a Bronze age religion that has been reformed so many times nobody even really knows how many time its been changed is the correct one!

right?

I mean Catholics are p. keky, but don't try to act like its any worse than a Baptist or w/e.

Listen we've unfinished business since the Thirty Years war, this pretty normal. The real question is what brings you to this thread? I rarely see you out of the mil thread and guns.

Because I need a daily dose of "right wing" nonsense and I can't find it anywhere else around here.

The "left wing" nonsense is spilling at every corner in this place so I need to find the other side of the memery.

[Aillyria]

Eh, Japan was in their right to remove unwanted and non-traditional elements from their society...it was none of Europe's business what Japan did with their own people.

Yeah, can't have the peasants thinking that they're worth anything, right?

Not saying I'm agreeing with what Japan was doing, but Christianity is ultimately not Japanese it is alien to their traditional culture. How would Europe like Japan to have spead Shinto or Buddhism in their countries?

[Salus Maior]

Yeah, can't have the peasants thinking that they're worth anything, right?

Not saying I'm agreeing with what Japan was doing, but Christianity is ultimately not Japanese it is alien to their traditional culture. How would Europe like Japan to have spead Shinto or Buddhism in their countries?

Yeah, it was alien to Rome and Europe in general as well once. Besides, such a nationalist view of religion is pretty garbage.

Considering Europe already dumped one set of nativist pagan beliefs I don't see how Shinto would be successful.

[The Parkus Empire]

We have countless monastic patriarchs, was never a problem for us. Dunno what went wrong with the Pope here, saying ridiculous things like calling Europe Christian is "colonialist" (which is bad, even though Catholicism spread primarily through it)

Orthodoxy also spread through colonialism, in Asia through the Ruskies.

And I think the Jesuit criticism is due to the unfortunate fact that they've become rather liberal as a group.

The difference is that we translated into indigenous languages

[The Parkus Empire]

Yeah, can't have the peasants thinking that they're worth anything, right?

Not saying I'm agreeing with what Japan was doing, but Christianity is ultimately not Japanese it is alien to their traditional culture. How would Europe like Japan to have spead Shinto or Buddhism in their countries?

This is coming from a Muslim?

[Salus Maior]

Orthodoxy also spread through colonialism, in Asia through the Ruskies.

And I think the Jesuit criticism is due to the unfortunate fact that they've become rather liberal as a group.

The difference is that we translated into indigenous languages

Tbf, Latin mass didn't stop people from speaking the vernacular, so I don't see how that would be "colonialism". Nobody speaks Church Latin as an everyday language.

Although I do agree that Church services should be done in vernacular.

[The East Marches II]

Listen we've unfinished business since the Thirty Years war, this pretty normal. The real question is what brings you to this thread? I rarely see you out of the mil thread and guns.

Because I need a daily dose of "right wing" nonsense and I can't find it anywhere else around here.

The "left wing" nonsense is spilling at every corner in this place so I need to find the other side of the memery.

You've stumbled into the right place in that case !