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Was the Reformation a good thing?

1 - Yes.
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2 - Neutral.
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3 - No.
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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:04 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
I'd prefer it was middle school, but I'm not in charge of the US education system.

One reason I could pull off the top of my head is so they know what's happening when it eventually occurs.

Even though most kids in middle school are already hooked on porn? Yeah, sure

Again, where the fuck did you go to school?
Next up it's "all the elementary kids snort cocaine!"

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:05 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:Even though most kids in middle school are already hooked on porn? Yeah, sure

Again, where the fuck did you go to school?
Next up it's "all the elementary kids snort cocaine!"


IL myself :^)

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Postby Albrenia » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:05 pm

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Come on, you're not that naive.

Look at Christian social teaching of back then. Do you honestly think that the majority of society would support child sex?


Moreso than current society, surely.

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:07 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Again, where the fuck did you go to school?
Next up it's "all the elementary kids snort cocaine!"


IL myself :^)

2/3 last governors in jail

I said Cocaine not Hashish, but nice try there Suleiman.

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:08 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
IL myself :^)

2/3 last governors in jail

I said Cocaine not Hashish, but nice try there Suleiman.


B T F O
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F
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That was very unnecessary.

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Postby War Gears » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:10 pm

Husseinarti wrote:Congrats, you're a Nazi?


Genivaria was the one who thought up the hypothetical where the Nazis weren't trying to exterminate people. I wasn't commenting on how realistic the proposition was. Simply giving my answer.
Husseinarti wrote:You get all the great incompetence that was the German military machine.


Right because the Soviet military which had most of it's expert generals shot and made Budyonny, the man with a horse fetish who set back Russian armored divisions, a marshal of the USSR, was extremely competent. :roll:
Husseinarti wrote:Have fun with your 40 Tiger Is breaking down before combat.


Like how the Russians had to deal with their T-35's constantly breaking down and barely functioning?
Husseinarti wrote:Have fun trying to bomb England with a shitty air force that barely memed its way in France.


Supporting an alternate history Germany against the USSR somehow means I want to bomb England? It seems you made me into a strawman to rant about your own little pet peeves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain

Apparently this never happened. They just "tried" to bomb it.
Husseinarti wrote:Have fun plinking 37mm AP rounds off 'inferior' Slavic T-34s.


Ah, a T-34 fan. It's pretty bad when the main good thing about a tank can be said that a 37mm can't penetrate it.
Husseinarti wrote:Have fun losing millions of men in a war that would get your nation divided and totally bombed to shit.


"My nation."

Sorry, no.
Husseinarti wrote:fucking lol


:roll:
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:10 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I said Cocaine not Hashish, but nice try there Suleiman.


B T F O
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That was very unnecessary.

Our defenses have been upgraded since last you came to visit.
Infiltrators will not be tolerated. :D

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:11 pm

War Gears wrote:
Husseinarti wrote:Congrats, you're a Nazi?


Genivaria was the one who thought up the hypothetical where the Nazis weren't trying to exterminate people. I wasn't commenting on how realistic the proposition was. Simply giving my answer.

Yes...turns out that not treating people like vermin tends to make them hate you alot less.

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Postby Albrenia » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:12 pm

Genivaria wrote:
War Gears wrote:
Genivaria was the one who thought up the hypothetical where the Nazis weren't trying to exterminate people. I wasn't commenting on how realistic the proposition was. Simply giving my answer.

Yes...turns out that not treating people like vermin tends to make them hate you alot less.


I have to sit down from the shock.

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:12 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
B T F O
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That was very unnecessary.

Our defenses have been upgraded since last you came to visit.
Infiltrators will not be tolerated. :D


But I agree with his conclusions and what UMN said. We are rapidly sliding and I am sure we will see support for pedophiles soon enough as the next great social crusade. There always somebody to have to liberate, something to revolt against other than the economic side of things.

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Postby War Gears » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:16 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Our defenses have been upgraded since last you came to visit.
Infiltrators will not be tolerated. :D


But I agree with his conclusions and what UMN said. We are rapidly sliding and I am sure we will see support for pedophiles soon enough as the next great social crusade. There always somebody to have to liberate, something to revolt against other than the economic side of things.


Considering my great-grandmother was married when she was 13, I have a hard time believing this claim that the religious have a stronger sense of the age of consent than non-religious or progressive people.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:18 pm

War Gears wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
But I agree with his conclusions and what UMN said. We are rapidly sliding and I am sure we will see support for pedophiles soon enough as the next great social crusade. There always somebody to have to liberate, something to revolt against other than the economic side of things.


Considering my great-grandmother was married when she was 13, I have a hard time believing this claim that the religious have a stronger sense of the age of consent than non-religious or progressive people.

Indeed. Disgusting.
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Postby Albrenia » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:18 pm

War Gears wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
But I agree with his conclusions and what UMN said. We are rapidly sliding and I am sure we will see support for pedophiles soon enough as the next great social crusade. There always somebody to have to liberate, something to revolt against other than the economic side of things.


Considering my great-grandmother was married when she was 13, I have a hard time believing this claim that the religious have a stronger sense of the age of consent than non-religious or progressive people.


I'm sure if they could go back to the times they claim were better, they'd be shocked at the degeneracy. The 1950s were prudish, but not all of history of Christendom was.

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:19 pm

War Gears wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
But I agree with his conclusions and what UMN said. We are rapidly sliding and I am sure we will see support for pedophiles soon enough as the next great social crusade. There always somebody to have to liberate, something to revolt against other than the economic side of things.


Considering my great-grandmother was married when she was 13, I have a hard time believing this claim that the religious have a stronger sense of the age of consent than non-religious or progressive people.


No Irish need apply on the morality front. Thats your lot.

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:20 pm

Albrenia wrote:
War Gears wrote:
Considering my great-grandmother was married when she was 13, I have a hard time believing this claim that the religious have a stronger sense of the age of consent than non-religious or progressive people.


I'm sure if they could go back to the times they claim were better, they'd be shocked at the degeneracy. The 1950s were prudish, but not all of history of Christendom was.

Imperial Russia was extremely prudish. I think that should be the model for social relations.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:20 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
War Gears wrote:
Considering my great-grandmother was married when she was 13, I have a hard time believing this claim that the religious have a stronger sense of the age of consent than non-religious or progressive people.


No Irish need apply on the morality front. Thats your lot.

Catholicism at its finest eh laddie?

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:21 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
No Irish need apply on the morality front. Thats your lot.

Catholicism at its finest eh laddie?


Lincoln was a traitor more than the Southerners for selling this country out.

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Postby War Gears » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:21 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
I'm sure if they could go back to the times they claim were better, they'd be shocked at the degeneracy. The 1950s were prudish, but not all of history of Christendom was.

Imperial Russia was extremely prudish. I think that should be the model for social relations.


And yet Rasputin was still a thing. So was Catherine the Great.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:22 pm

War Gears wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Imperial Russia was extremely prudish. I think that should be the model for social relations.


And yet Rasputin was still a thing.

Every society has the occasional debauched individual. Even Imperial China had that, and they were even more prudish than I think is appropriate.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:22 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
I'm sure if they could go back to the times they claim were better, they'd be shocked at the degeneracy. The 1950s were prudish, but not all of history of Christendom was.

Imperial Russia was extremely prudish. I think that should be the model for social relations.

“Hence, we have the persistent normative conflict between the naturalistic pagan attitudes to sexuality in the “low” everyday peasant culture and the extreme spiritualism and otherworldly asceticism of the official “high” culture. Everyday life was openly sensual, cruel, and carnal. Debauchery, drunkenness, sexual violence, and rape were quite common. Russian folk tales are filled with polygamous heroes. Various sexual exploits, such as the rape of a sleeping beauty, are sympathetically described. It was permissible and noble, for example, “to dishonor” or rape a virgin girl in just revenge for her refusal to marry the hero. There was no place for modesty and privacy in the lives of peasants, and the nude body was often unwillingly and deliberately (ritually) displayed. Russian communal bathhouses, where men and women often washed together, surprised and shocked more than a few foreign travelers in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. ==

http://factsanddetails.com/russia/Peopl ... -5022.html

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Postby Albrenia » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:22 pm

War Gears wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Imperial Russia was extremely prudish. I think that should be the model for social relations.


And yet Rasputin was still a thing. So was Catherine the Great.


Sorcerers aren't mentioned anywhere in the bible though, so that's fine. :p

(yes I'm aware that they are, it's a goddamn joke)

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Postby War Gears » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:22 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Catholicism at its finest eh laddie?


Lincoln was a traitor more than the Southerners for selling this country out.


Lincoln was born in Kentucky.

This is a conspiracy much bigger than you realize TEM.
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Postby The Portland Territory » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:23 pm

Albrenia wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:Even though most kids in middle school are already hooked on porn? Yeah, sure


Jesus, what school did you go to...

A Catholic school

And I look at the middle schoolers on my bus, and along the streets (at public school now) and lord, the things they say and do are horrid
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:23 pm

War Gears wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Lincoln was a traitor more than the Southerners for selling this country out.


Lincoln was born in Kentucky.

This is a conspiracy much bigger than you realize TEM.


H-he was a Southern Agent all along

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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:23 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:Even though most kids in middle school are already hooked on porn? Yeah, sure

Again, where the fuck did you go to school?
Next up it's "all the elementary kids snort cocaine!"


Statistically, kids tend to be exposed to pornography for the first time at around 8 or 9.
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