BREXIT Mega Thread (The Saga Begins?)

[Neo Balka]

what?

France?

Britain?

france and sweden

Please be joking.

You cant create anything solid with mud and shit.

[Fartsniffage]

I would hope that everyone dislikes nukes....

I like them, I believe they've kept the peace. I dislike world wars more than I dislike nukes.

I don't consider it a zero-sum game.

[Neo Balka]

ah yes, Dassualt, last product worth mentioning was in '86 as the rafale....

at least the french were smart enough to keep their aircraft industry indigenous.

if this keeps going on we're going to have to talk about the F-35

You mean the plane that admittedly is very expensive but can blast anything out of the sky AND bomb the shit out of anything?

[Souseiseki]

france and sweden

Please be joking.

You cant create anything solid with mud and shit.

do you have any real substantive criticisms of the gripen

[Washington Resistance Army]

if this keeps going on we're going to have to talk about the F-35

You mean the plane that admittedly is very expensive but can blast anything out of the sky AND bomb the shit out of anything?

Don't forget that time the F-35 lost to an F-16.

[Souseiseki]

if this keeps going on we're going to have to talk about the F-35

You mean the plane that admittedly is very expensive but can blast anything out of the sky AND bomb the shit out of anything?

sure, if you can get it to fly

[Hurdergaryp]

ah yes, Dassualt, last product worth mentioning was in '86 as the rafale....

at least the french were smart enough to keep their aircraft industry indigenous.

if this keeps going on we're going to have to talk about the F-35

Let's just casually mention that it's taking longer than expected, and leave it at that. By the time the F-35 enters service, assuming that actually happens, the Chinese probably have a cheaper and more efficient equivalent in their airforce.

[Neo Balka]

You mean the plane that admittedly is very expensive but can blast anything out of the sky AND bomb the shit out of anything?

Don't forget that time the F-35 lost to an F-16.

another great american fighter aircraft.

though its not the aircraft, its the pilot.

[Conserative Morality]

You mean the plane that admittedly is very expensive but can blast anything out of the sky AND bomb the shit out of anything?

The F-35 may not have had had as many high profile problems as the F-22, but that doesn't mean that it's not a complete fucking disaster.

[Neo Balka]

You mean the plane that admittedly is very expensive but can blast anything out of the sky AND bomb the shit out of anything?

The F-35 may not have had had as many high profile problems as the F-22, but that doesn't mean that it's not a complete fucking disaster.

How so? how is it a disaster?

[The East Marches II]

if this keeps going on we're going to have to talk about the F-35

Let's just casually mention that it's taking longer than expected, and leave it at that. By the time the F-35 enters service, assuming that actually happens, the Chinese probably have a cheaper and more efficient equivalent in their airforce.

>More efficient

Thats incorrect, cheaper sure. Pierre Sprey and Boeing want dat refurb expensive F-18 money. Even if the Europeans could get the current planes they have working, that'd still be better than what they have now which lots of expensive kit (albeit outdated) grounded.

[Neu Leonstein]

if this keeps going on we're going to have to talk about the F-35

Just stop indulging them, and yourself. Or at least do it in a separate thread. Military dick waving contests aren't really relevant to the topic of the thread.

[Vassenor]

if this keeps going on we're going to have to talk about the F-35

You mean the plane that admittedly is very expensive but can blast anything out of the sky AND bomb the shit out of anything?

When the bombs supposedly designed for it actually fit.

[Hurdergaryp]

You mean the plane that admittedly is very expensive but can blast anything out of the sky AND bomb the shit out of anything?

sure, if you can get it to fly

And which still has to progress beyond prototype stage, apparently. As I said in my previous post, it's taking longer than expected. It's taking so much longer than expected, even. And the longer it takes, the more expensive the theoretically oh-so superior machine becomes.

[Neo Balka]

You mean the plane that admittedly is very expensive but can blast anything out of the sky AND bomb the shit out of anything?

sure, if you can get it to fly

already in service with the Marines and the air force.

[Vassenor]

sure, if you can get it to fly

And which still has to progress beyond prototype stage, apparently. As I said in my previous post, it's taking longer than expected. It's taking so much longer than expected, even. And the longer it takes, the more expensive the theoretically oh-so superior machine becomes.

To the point where the Qataris and potentially the Canadians picked the Rafale over it.

[Hurdergaryp]

if this keeps going on we're going to have to talk about the F-35

Just stop indulging them, and yourself. Or at least do it in a separate thread. Military dick waving contests aren't really relevant to the topic of the thread.

True, but it is inevitable by now. Certain people have manifested themselves in this thread, and these people like the simplicity of 'might is right' and other unsophisticated approaches to complicated matters.

[Conserative Morality]

How so? how is it a disaster?

The expensive bitch can barely fly reliably.

[The East Marches II]

And which still has to progress beyond prototype stage, apparently. As I said in my previous post, it's taking longer than expected. It's taking so much longer than expected, even. And the longer it takes, the more expensive the theoretically oh-so superior machine becomes.

To the point where the Qataris and potentially the Canadians picked the Rafale over it.

The Canadians are the best. I love Trudeau. Free money is great :^)

[Hurdergaryp]

And which still has to progress beyond prototype stage, apparently. As I said in my previous post, it's taking longer than expected. It's taking so much longer than expected, even. And the longer it takes, the more expensive the theoretically oh-so superior machine becomes.

To the point where the Qataris and potentially the Canadians picked the Rafale over it.

The Canadians commonly tend to prefer European designs over the military hardware developed by their southern neighbours when it comes to combat vehicles.

[Fartsniffage]

sure, if you can get it to fly

And which still has to progress beyond prototype stage, apparently. As I said in my previous post, it's taking longer than expected. It's taking so much longer than expected, even. And the longer it takes, the more expensive the theoretically oh-so superior machine becomes.

It's actually in service now. And I have no idea what it has to do with Brexit unless people are thinking we're going to be using the Queen Elizabeth class to intimidate the EU?

[Hurdergaryp]

And which still has to progress beyond prototype stage, apparently. As I said in my previous post, it's taking longer than expected. It's taking so much longer than expected, even. And the longer it takes, the more expensive the theoretically oh-so superior machine becomes.

It's actually in service now. And I have no idea what it has to do with Brexit unless people are thinking we're going to be using the Queen Elizabeth class to intimidate the EU?

Anything goes if some people in this thread are to be believed. Currently it's like Narnia in here, but with more ammo.

[Sanctissima]

How so? how is it a disaster?

The expensive bitch can barely fly reliably.

It's performed quite well in most tests so far.

And while expensive, it costs no more than the F-16 if you take inflation into account.

[Neo Balka]

And which still has to progress beyond prototype stage, apparently. As I said in my previous post, it's taking longer than expected. It's taking so much longer than expected, even. And the longer it takes, the more expensive the theoretically oh-so superior machine becomes.

It's actually in service now. And I have no idea what it has to do with Brexit unless people are thinking we're going to be using the Queen Elizabeth class to intimidate the EU?

http://www.businessinsider.com/f-35-sla ... lag-2017-2

Use this as a add on to this post.

the F-35 scored a 15:1 ratio against F-16s and F-15s trained to fly like Russians.

and this will be the last i will speak of it.

[Vassenor]

Also in a related note I wonder what will happen once the politicians lose the ability to use the EU as a convenient scapegoat for their own screwups.

They're going to need a number of new scapegoats, but fear not: media mogul Rupert Murdoch will provide.

I'm still wondering when we're going to stop with the smoke and mirrors and just declare him president for life.

Given that's what he basically is already.