Also it remains to be seen, once we have defined the exact part of Asia Balk is referring to. Apparently it is not commonly known that Asia is pretty big.
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by Hurdergaryp » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:40 pm

by Neo Balka » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:40 pm

by Fartsniffage » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:42 pm
The East Marches II wrote:Souseiseki wrote:
i mean if you don't want to be world hegemon you're free to stop
Why bother when we can just bully them into spending more on defense. Afterall, Erdogan did such a great job at fleecing the spineless Eurocrats we ought to be able to get a bit in. Thankfully, because Britain carries its weight, it will avoid just such a fate! Though I am sure being a good Scot, you dislike nukes.
by Souseiseki » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:42 pm
Neo Balka wrote:Meanwhile the EU thinks that Flowers and weakened armies are enough to stop Ivan?
If Russia understands anything its force and how to apply in cases to where it benefits them, Europe does not.
Brexit has proven that the EU will do damn near anything to hold on and look tough, its all a show for the other nations and Russia as well.

by Hurdergaryp » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:43 pm
Neo Balka wrote:Meanwhile the EU thinks that Flowers and weakened armies are enough to stop Ivan?
If Russia understands anything its force and how to apply in cases to where it benefits them, Europe does not.
Brexit has proven that the EU will do damn near anything to hold on and look tough, its all a show for the other nations and Russia as well.

by The East Marches II » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:44 pm
Hurdergaryp wrote:The East Marches II wrote:Only in NSG could people forget the martyr of Rotterdam and the perils of being under armed for war :^)
Given how that can be interpreted more broadly than you probably meant it, it might be useful to provide us (or at least me) with a bit more info so that more context is available. I assume you're referring to 1940, but I do not have the luxury to be entirely certain.
Neo Balka wrote:So let me get this straight.
the leader of gibraltar JUST called the EU president whatshisfuck a cuck.
oh god, this is hilarious.
BBC wrote:
Gibraltar's chief minister Fabian Picardo said: "Gibraltar is not a bargaining chip in these negotiations. Gibraltar belongs to the Gibraltarians and we want to stay British."
Mr Picardo urged European Council President Donald Tusk to remove the reference to Gibraltar.
"Mr Tusk, who has been given to using the analogies of the divorce and divorce petition, is behaving like a cuckolded husband who is taking it out on the children," he said.

by Vassenor » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:44 pm
The Tribe of Judah wrote:Vassenor wrote:
Is it really a track record if it's only happened once?
Second Desmond Rebellion (1579–83)
Irish Nine Years' War (1594–1603)
Thirty Years' War (1618–48)
Franco-Spanish War (1635–59)
Portuguese Restoration War (1640–68)
Anglo-Spanish War (1654–60)
Queen Anne's War (1702–1713)
War of the Spanish Succession (1702–1715)
Battle of Glen Shiel (1719)
War of the Quadruple Alliance (1718–1720)
Seven Years' War (1754–1763)
Anglo-Spanish War (1762–63)
To name but a few.

by Neo Balka » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:44 pm
Souseiseki wrote:Neo Balka wrote:Meanwhile the EU thinks that Flowers and weakened armies are enough to stop Ivan?
If Russia understands anything its force and how to apply in cases to where it benefits them, Europe does not.
Brexit has proven that the EU will do damn near anything to hold on and look tough, its all a show for the other nations and Russia as well.
if only we had nuclear weapons and a plan to create a european army

by The Tribe of Judah » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:45 pm
Neo Balka wrote:Meanwhile the EU thinks that Flowers and weakened armies are enough to stop Ivan?
If Russia understands anything its force and how to apply in cases to where it benefits them, Europe does not.
Brexit has proven that the EU will do damn near anything to hold on and look tough, its all a show for the other nations and Russia as well.

by The East Marches II » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:45 pm
Fartsniffage wrote:The East Marches II wrote:
Why bother when we can just bully them into spending more on defense. Afterall, Erdogan did such a great job at fleecing the spineless Eurocrats we ought to be able to get a bit in. Thankfully, because Britain carries its weight, it will avoid just such a fate! Though I am sure being a good Scot, you dislike nukes.
I would hope that everyone dislikes nukes....

by Vassenor » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:46 pm
The Tribe of Judah wrote:Neo Balka wrote:Meanwhile the EU thinks that Flowers and weakened armies are enough to stop Ivan?
If Russia understands anything its force and how to apply in cases to where it benefits them, Europe does not.
Brexit has proven that the EU will do damn near anything to hold on and look tough, its all a show for the other nations and Russia as well.
Thank goodness we're getting out of that sinking shitshow.

by Hurdergaryp » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:47 pm
Neo Balka wrote:Souseiseki wrote:if only we had nuclear weapons and a plan to create a european army
>european army
>multiple languages
Holy fucking shit, you people think a united European army would be any better then what? Tanks that cant move and aircraft that cant get off the fucking ground due to lack of parts or fuel?
Europes time is done and its end cant come soon enough.
by Souseiseki » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:47 pm
Neo Balka wrote:Souseiseki wrote:
if only we had nuclear weapons and a plan to create a european army
>european army
>multiple languages
Holy fucking shit, you people think a united European army would be any better then what? Tanks that cant move and aircraft that cant get off the fucking ground due to lack of parts or fuel?
Europes time is done and its end cant come soon enough.

by Vassenor » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:48 pm

by Neu Leonstein » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:48 pm
Neo Balka wrote:Or maybe Europe could instead not act like a poor beggar relying on American bodies to fill gaps where your pathetic armies couldn't?
Oh wait.
Its Europe, they'd rather rely on others for defense so they can keep their citizens and refugees reliant on the welfare state.

by Neo Balka » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:48 pm
Souseiseki wrote:Neo Balka wrote:
>european army
>multiple languages
Holy fucking shit, you people think a united European army would be any better then what? Tanks that cant move and aircraft that cant get off the fucking ground due to lack of parts or fuel?
Europes time is done and its end cant come soon enough.
the languages thing can be solved, a european army is by far the first time linguistic issues have come up
if only we had two countries with decent aeronautic industries

by The East Marches II » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:48 pm
Vassenor wrote:Also in a related note I wonder what will happen once the politicians lose the ability to use the EU as a convenient scapegoat for their own screwups.
by Souseiseki » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:49 pm

by Hurdergaryp » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:50 pm
Vassenor wrote:Also in a related note I wonder what will happen once the politicians lose the ability to use the EU as a convenient scapegoat for their own screwups.

by Vassenor » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:50 pm
by Souseiseki » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:51 pm

by Neo Balka » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:52 pm
by Souseiseki » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:53 pm
Neo Balka wrote:Vassenor wrote:
Oh come on. You need to stop fantasising about those mythical companies like Dassault. Everyone knows the only plane makers are American and Russian.
ah yes, Dassualt, last product worth mentioning was in '86 as the rafale....
at least the french were smart enough to keep their aircraft industry indigenous.

by Hurdergaryp » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:53 pm
Fartsniffage wrote:The East Marches II wrote:Why bother when we can just bully them into spending more on defense. Afterall, Erdogan did such a great job at fleecing the spineless Eurocrats we ought to be able to get a bit in. Thankfully, because Britain carries its weight, it will avoid just such a fate! Though I am sure being a good Scot, you dislike nukes.
I would hope that everyone dislikes nukes....
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