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Postby HMS Queen Elizabeth » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:06 pm

It's not really important since the bomb. If invasion were a serious threat, I might even support membership.
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Postby Olerand » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:07 pm

HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:It's not really important since the bomb. If invasion were a serious threat, I might even support membership.

What bomb? The nuclear bomb? But we have more! In this case, it's even more important that you leave, because we're only going to lead to our own mutually assured destruction.

Indeed, for your sake and ours, you should go.
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Postby HMS Queen Elizabeth » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:11 pm

Olerand wrote:
HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:It's not really important since the bomb. If invasion were a serious threat, I might even support membership.

What bomb? The nuclear bomb? But we have more! In this case, it's even more important that you leave, because we're only going to lead to our own mutually assured destruction.

Indeed, for your sake and ours, you should go.

More doesn't really matter after the bomb, which is why the EU isn't a threat. Before 1955 or so it would have been a serious threat.
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Postby Olerand » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:16 pm

HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:
Olerand wrote:What bomb? The nuclear bomb? But we have more! In this case, it's even more important that you leave, because we're only going to lead to our own mutually assured destruction.

Indeed, for your sake and ours, you should go.

More doesn't really matter after the bomb, which is why the EU isn't a threat. Before 1955 or so it would have been a serious threat.

It does matter in as much as we can also wipe you out. So in the end, we're both nuclear wastelands. Leave us now, save yourself Britannia!
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Postby HMS Queen Elizabeth » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:58 pm

Olerand wrote:
HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:More doesn't really matter after the bomb, which is why the EU isn't a threat. Before 1955 or so it would have been a serious threat.

It does matter in as much as we can also wipe you out. So in the end, we're both nuclear wastelands. Leave us now, save yourself Britannia!

It doesn't matter, because wiping out Britain isn't worth the cost. Nuclear bombs just break the whole historic European power dynamic which was the only reason Britain ever cared about the continent. In strategic terms the Channel was the narrowest it has ever been in about 1943 and today it is the widest it has ever been.
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Postby Olerand » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:06 pm

HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:
Olerand wrote:It does matter in as much as we can also wipe you out. So in the end, we're both nuclear wastelands. Leave us now, save yourself Britannia!

It doesn't matter, because wiping out Britain isn't worth the cost. Nuclear bombs just break the whole historic European power dynamic which was the only reason Britain ever cared about the continent. In strategic terms the Channel was the narrowest it has ever been in about 1943 and today it is the widest it has ever been.

But we will be, again, a socialist-fascist-Nazi-Islamist-bureaucratic-pound-thieving nightmarish unitary State. We will be, as we are, hellbent on destroying British freedoms, liberties, institutions, sovereignty etc.

We will surely be so desperate for your pounds, broke as we are, that we will be willing to go to the extreme to get your money to finance our Nazi socialist Islamist-loving healthcare scheme.

You should just save yourself now.
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Postby HMS Queen Elizabeth » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:09 pm

You can, and should, be exactly who you want to be, princess.
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Postby Olerand » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:28 pm

HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:You can, and should, be exactly who you want to be, princess.

Which is why you must physically save Britannia from us. We will seek to absorb fair Albion into our socialist-fascist-Nazi-Islamist-bureaucratic-pound-thieving nightmarish unitary State, therefore you must separate from us and go as far as possible.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:03 pm

Olerand wrote:
HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:You can, and should, be exactly who you want to be, princess.

Which is why you must physically save Britannia from us. We will seek to absorb fair Albion into our socialist-fascist-Nazi-Islamist-bureaucratic-pound-thieving nightmarish unitary State, therefore you must separate from us and go as far as possible.


But then who would the French have delusions of superiority about?

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Postby Olerand » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:09 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Olerand wrote:Which is why you must physically save Britannia from us. We will seek to absorb fair Albion into our socialist-fascist-Nazi-Islamist-bureaucratic-pound-thieving nightmarish unitary State, therefore you must separate from us and go as far as possible.


But then who would the French have delusions of superiority about?

Delusions of superiority? :lol2:
Well, we always have the Belgians. A smaller target to pick on it is true, but a saner target too.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:32 pm

Olerand wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
But then who would the French have delusions of superiority about?

Delusions of superiority? :lol2:
Well, we always have the Belgians. A smaller target to pick on it is true, but a saner target too.


Have you guys ever paid that coward De Galle's hotel bills from the early 40's?

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Postby Olerand » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:37 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Olerand wrote:Delusions of superiority? :lol2:
Well, we always have the Belgians. A smaller target to pick on it is true, but a saner target too.


Have you guys ever paid that coward De Galle's hotel bills from the early 40's?

His hotel bills? I'd check the receipts, didn't you pay for them?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:44 pm

Olerand wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Have you guys ever paid that coward De Galle's hotel bills from the early 40's?

His hotel bills? I'd check the receipts, didn't you pay for them?


It was that or give him an army. And he'd lost all the others that people had given him.

Still, I think we should bring it up during the financial separation talks during Brexit. He's French so I'd imagine his mini-bar and garlic bread bills alone would cover our side of it....

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Postby Olerand » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:49 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Olerand wrote:His hotel bills? I'd check the receipts, didn't you pay for them?


It was that or give him an army. And he'd lost all the others that people had given him.

Still, I think we should bring it up during the financial separation talks during Brexit. He's French so I'd imagine his mini-bar and garlic bread bills alone would cover our side of it....

The audacity... Garlic bread? Is that all you can associate with the Général? Out of all of French cuisine, you have de Gaulle eat garlic bread. Why not frog legs, at least that would have been a little more elegant. No respect...
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:50 pm

Olerand wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
It was that or give him an army. And he'd lost all the others that people had given him.

Still, I think we should bring it up during the financial separation talks during Brexit. He's French so I'd imagine his mini-bar and garlic bread bills alone would cover our side of it....

The audacity... Garlic bread? Is that all you can associate with the Général? Out of all of French cuisine, you have de Gaulle eat garlic bread. Why not frog legs, at least that would have been a little more elegant. No respect...


Thank you. :)

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Postby Olerand » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:53 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Olerand wrote:The audacity... Garlic bread? Is that all you can associate with the Général? Out of all of French cuisine, you have de Gaulle eat garlic bread. Why not frog legs, at least that would have been a little more elegant. No respect...


Thank you. :)

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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:55 pm

Olerand wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Thank you. :)

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You just admitted that even during the privations of the second world war, London restaurants could make good food. :D

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Postby Olerand » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:58 pm

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Olerand wrote:


You just admitted that even during the privations of the second world war, London restaurants could make good food. :D

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I would never. De Gaulle must have had his food made by a personal French chef. To think that not only was the Général away from la douce France, but he was also eating English cooked food, I would never tarnish his memory like that.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:18 pm

Does anyone know what they're going to do on the three weeks of no negotiation between every week of negotiation? And people say teachers get good holiday, negotiation's where it's at. :lol:
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:39 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:Does anyone know what they're going to do on the three weeks of no negotiation between every week of negotiation? And people say teachers get good holiday, negotiation's where it's at. :lol:

With the EU insisting on transparency I imagine the Tories will spend the three weeks programming different catch phrases into Theresa May to see if any of them distract from how badly everything's going.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:18 pm

Souseiseki wrote:day #1 we immediately cave in and start using the EU's negotiating timetable despite spending months railing against it, calling into question whether we spent months annoying them for nothing. the EU show the UK negotiating team their paper work outlining what they expect to happen and what their general goals are in regards to issues like finances, ireland, etc. and ask the UK team to show them theirs, only to be told the UK team didn't bother making one and some half-assed white paper from 6 months ago should be good enough.

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I'm not one to kinkshame, but being so in thrall to the Europeans that you've let them collar you is quite something.
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Postby Souseiseki » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:24 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:day #1 we immediately cave in and start using the EU's negotiating timetable despite spending months railing against it, calling into question whether we spent months annoying them for nothing. the EU show the UK negotiating team their paper work outlining what they expect to happen and what their general goals are in regards to issues like finances, ireland, etc. and ask the UK team to show them theirs, only to be told the UK team didn't bother making one and some half-assed white paper from 6 months ago should be good enough.

*tugs collar nervously*


I'm not one to kinkshame, but being so in thrall to the Europeans that you've let them collar you is quite something.


you're right. good british people don't do that kind of thing. please keep this border line obscenity in europe.

Sky News says DUP have "been surprised at the [low] level of negotiating experience" in May's government. That bodes well.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:36 am



It depends what the banker's offer is...wait, no, wrong context!

Some have argued it was better than a "bad deal", but "no deal" as the best outcome is a very minority opinion. It's unlikely that there'll be a deal on everything within the timeframe given the time May's wasted and the...calibre...of her team. They'll have to patch together what they can to ease the transition and then it'll be an ongoing process after we've left to sort out partnerships and deals for what remains.
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Postby Souseiseki » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:18 am

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 02141.html

Brexit: Philip Hammond admits UK's planned withdrawal already hitting economic investment

Chancellor says a transitional deal with the EU is needed to ‘start seeing businesses investing again’

Businesses are already pulling investment because of Brexit, the Chancellor has admitted – as he again urged Theresa May to agree a “transitional arrangement”.

Philip Hammond said a temporary deal with the EU was badly needed to get “businesses investing again”, appearing to acknowledge that companies are currently putting their plans on hold.

“The thing that is causing concern in the business community is the risk of a cliff edge,” Mr Hammond said.


well, that's interesting. and by interesting i mean the exact opposite of what we've been told for the past year.

In his Mansion House speech in the City of London this week, he dropped any pretence that he sees economic benefits to EU withdrawal – while insisting Britain will leave.

The Chancellor urged Ms May to abandon her red line that securing immigration controls is the first priority, in favour of a deal to protect jobs.


lol
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