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If You Had The Choice Of Living Forever, Would You Do It?

Yes
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No
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Calladan
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Postby Calladan » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:32 am

Zaldakki wrote:Use birth control. If you have children eventually everyone will statistically become your descendant. You don't want that because then you wouldn't be able to be attracted to anyone anymore.


I have to disagree - I think that if you are going to live forever, after a while you would definitely start to develop an entirely new morality. Or at least a very lax version of the old one. Concepts like not being intimate with "family" members (especially given how weak and watered down the connection would be) would pretty much vanish.

Or at least that's where I see it going. And by "after a while" I mean ten, twenty decades or so, not five or ten years :)
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Postby Gim » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:32 am

Conscentia wrote:
Gim wrote:I go with the theory of YOLO.

YOLO.

:lol:
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Vonehad She
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Postby Vonehad She » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:40 am

Calladan wrote:
Zaldakki wrote:Use birth control. If you have children eventually everyone will statistically become your descendant. You don't want that because then you wouldn't be able to be attracted to anyone anymore.


I have to disagree - I think that if you are going to live forever, after a while you would definitely start to develop an entirely new morality. Or at least a very lax version of the old one. Concepts like not being intimate with "family" members (especially given how weak and watered down the connection would be) would pretty much vanish.

Or at least that's where I see it going. And by "after a while" I mean ten, twenty decades or so, not five or ten years :)

I would have to agree with you on that. Given time, people would adapt to their circumstances. I mean - and I'm sorry for using this - look at Rick Grimes from The Walking Dead. At the beginning of the show, Rick was moral and tried to keep everyone, and I do mean everyone, alive. Didn't matter to him if he knew you or not. Fast forward to season three and you start to see his morals changing. He went from 'keep everyone alive' to 'keep this group alive'.

And the only reason why I even mentioned The Walking Dead would be because of all the psychology used in writing out the characters. (And I'm not just talking about the main characters, like Rick's group, but also the 'villains' and the 'background people'.) Living forever is a bit like that - it wears down on someone's mental state and, well, we get changed morals because of it.

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Postby Vonehad She » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:45 am

Conscentia wrote:
Gim wrote:I go with the theory of YOLO.

YOLO.

Well - I found a new song to obsess over...

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Postby Gim » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:47 am

Vonehad She wrote:
Conscentia wrote:YOLO.

Well - I found a new song to obsess over...


Well, you only live once. Now go and enjoy the song. :p
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Postby Vonehad She » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:48 am

Gim wrote:
Vonehad She wrote:Well - I found a new song to obsess over...


Well, you only live once. Now go and enjoy the song. :p

Already listening to it for the second time and I can't stop smiling. And you do only live once, true. :lol2:

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Postby Gim » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:48 am

Vonehad She wrote:
Gim wrote:
Well, you only live once. Now go and enjoy the song. :p

Already listening to it for the second time and I can't stop smiling. And you do only live once, true. :lol2:


Good, good. :p
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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:24 am

Apu don't Yolo
And, as I said before, we already have the option of living forever-the after life
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Postby Gim » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:26 am

Australian Republic wrote:Apu don't Yolo
And, as I said before, we already have the option of living forever-the after life


However, that's not living forever. There's dying involved.
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Wansul
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Postby Wansul » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:29 am

Democratic East-Asia wrote:YES. I have an infinite amount of time to turn myself from a lowly student into the supreme ruler of the universe.

But your freinds gonton different ages. And they forget about you.
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Mezonpotania
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Postby Mezonpotania » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:32 am

Arctica-Aleutia wrote:
Oldenfranck wrote:
No, eventually your brain would forget stuff.

That implies some disturbing things. For example, eventually you might forget your childhood, your family, who you even are.

Hmm... that sounds like a good plot for a novel or something... and novels can make you money... ha ha... bwa ha ha...

*types furiously on typewriter without blinking*

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Forgot here name and everything about herself! Lived to be 100 trillion years old, then the universe got destroyed, but she lived! Plot already taken! just watch doctor who!!!!!!!
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Nordengrund
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Postby Nordengrund » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:55 am

Nah, because I'd eventually get bored enough and become a sadist or serial killer so I have something to do.
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Gim
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Postby Gim » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:55 am

Nordengrund wrote:Nah, because I'd eventually get bored enough and become a sadist or serial killer so I have something to do.


You won't become a serial killer, if people can live forever.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:16 am

Gim wrote:
Australian Republic wrote:Apu don't Yolo
And, as I said before, we already have the option of living forever-the after life


However, that's not living forever. There's dying involved.

Initially, yes, but after that, you never die again, because, you're already dead, you just live in Heaven, uninterupted, forever, never dying again

Eternal cycles of reincarnation, on the other hand may or may not be living forever (I suppose it depends on jow you look at it)
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Postby Gim » Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:17 am

Australian Republic wrote:
Gim wrote:
However, that's not living forever. There's dying involved.

Initially, yes, but after that, you never die again, because, you're already dead, you just live in Heaven, uninterupted, forever, never dying again

Eternal cycles of reincarnation, on the other hand may or may not be living forever (I suppose it depends on jow you look at it)


Hmm, okay. i guess, technically, it's living forever. I'm fine with that.
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Postby Nordengrund » Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:56 am

Gim wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:Nah, because I'd eventually get bored enough and become a sadist or serial killer so I have something to do.


You won't become a serial killer, if people can live forever.


Well, I was implying if only I lived forever
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Postby Gim » Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:57 am

Nordengrund wrote:
Gim wrote:
You won't become a serial killer, if people can live forever.


Well, I was implying if only I lived forever


That won't happen. I want to live forever, too.
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Khalisako
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Postby Khalisako » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:23 am

No.

I'm already working on shortening my life span through various means. The idea of living forever would be like burning in a hell for eternity.
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Postby Gim » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:23 am

Khalisako wrote:No.

I'm already working on shortening my life span through various means. The idea of living forever would be like burning in a hell for eternity.


Are you not happy in life right now? :(
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Khalisako
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Postby Khalisako » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:37 am

Gim wrote:
Khalisako wrote:No.

I'm already working on shortening my life span through various means. The idea of living forever would be like burning in a hell for eternity.


Are you not happy in life right now? :(

Uhhh, no.

An honest answer never hurts tho.
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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:39 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Victorious Decepticons wrote:OP's version is the one version I would not want: The kind that combines immortality with partial invincibility - giving me the ability to get almost deathly sick from an excruciating disease, get stuck under earthquake rubble for 1500 years or more, lose all of my mental data, end up absorbed by the sun, etc. and STILL not die.

In exchange for such eventualities, I only MAY get to see my enemies age and die around me. OP, alas, has given all humans the chance to be immortal, too.

I'll pass. OP's offer is the worst version of immortality.

My goal is immortality without any sickness or physical pain, and that includes immortality for all of my mental data - and I want an "exit clause" for crazy-making situations like being buried under the ashes of Mt. Vesuvius for millennia or for if I don't get off of Earth before the sun expands so close that staying on the planet would be hellacious. Since this offer doesn't have any of that, no thanks.


Wouldn't getting absorbed by the sun or trapped where you can't breathe cause you to pass out even if you're not technically dead? IRL, if you can't breathe, you pass out before you die.


Hmmm...you do have a point there. But he also mentioned things like diseases that would normally be terminal, but now won't be. Some of those involve excruciating pain or total disability, but not the loss of awareness. And eventually you'd get too used to painkillers for those to work anymore, even if you assume that someone's around to administer them to you.
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Postby Gim » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:40 am

Khalisako wrote:
Gim wrote:
Are you not happy in life right now? :(

Uhhh, no.

An honest answer never hurts tho.


I'm sure, with immortality, you will have many opportunities to try and live a happy life. You have all the time to start anew. :)
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:45 am

gib immortality pls

Maybe I'd later come to regret it. But I would literally have all the time in the world to come to terms with that.
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Postby The State of Communism » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:46 am

Yeah, uh, no.
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Postby Gim » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:47 am

Ifreann wrote:gib immortality pls

Maybe I'd later come to regret it. But I would literally have all the time in the world to come to terms with that.


I'd find something else about which I'd be happy, since life is interminable.
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