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Postby The Rom Jay » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:59 pm

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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:04 pm

In theory, race-mixing sounds like a great way to solve racism in just a few generations.

But in practice, only first-world countries seem willing to do this, and I hate to think it'd be only my own race that goes extinct.
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Postby New Grestin » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:06 pm

Given the inevitability that humanity will eventually coalesce into a single, unified racial appearance through intermarriage and such, the concept of Racial Purity is antiquated at best.

The only people that fight for racial purity nowadays are simply fighting the tide of change, and history will not treat them kindly for it.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:51 pm

New Grestin wrote:Given the inevitability that humanity will eventually coalesce into a single, unified racial appearance through intermarriage and such, the concept of Racial Purity is antiquated at best.

The only people that fight for racial purity nowadays are simply fighting the tide of change, and history will not treat them kindly for it.

there isn't going to be a single unified appearance.

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Postby New Grestin » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:53 pm

San Lumen wrote:
New Grestin wrote:Given the inevitability that humanity will eventually coalesce into a single, unified racial appearance through intermarriage and such, the concept of Racial Purity is antiquated at best.

The only people that fight for racial purity nowadays are simply fighting the tide of change, and history will not treat them kindly for it.

there isn't going to be a single unified appearance.

Perhaps not, but assuming that humanity survives for some time, it's inevitable that the differences between racial and ethnic groups would become less immediately obvious.

Mind you, we'd still find excuses to kill each other over being a slightly different shade of off-color tan or something, so it's unlikely things would really change that much.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:01 pm

New Grestin wrote:
San Lumen wrote:there isn't going to be a single unified appearance.

Perhaps not, but assuming that humanity survives for some time, it's inevitable that the differences between racial and ethnic groups would become less immediately obvious.

Mind you, we'd still find excuses to kill each other over being a slightly different shade of off-color tan or something, so it's unlikely things would really change that much.

Unless we ventured to other planets.
Drastically different environments could potentially alter human evolution.

For example the gravity on Mars is only 37% of the gravity on Earth, what effects would that have on human reproduction and children?
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Postby New Grestin » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:02 pm

Genivaria wrote:
New Grestin wrote:Perhaps not, but assuming that humanity survives for some time, it's inevitable that the differences between racial and ethnic groups would become less immediately obvious.

Mind you, we'd still find excuses to kill each other over being a slightly different shade of off-color tan or something, so it's unlikely things would really change that much.

Unless we ventured to other planets.
Drastically different environments could potentially alter human evolution.

You know, I recall there being a really nightmare fuel-y book about how humans might evolve over millions of years.

Damned if I can recall what it was, but it was terrifying.
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Postby Waylon Skinner » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:02 pm

^ I'll agree. There is inequality and it's probably never going away. I guess that's not always bad.

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Postby Genivaria » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:05 pm

New Grestin wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Unless we ventured to other planets.
Drastically different environments could potentially alter human evolution.

You know, I recall there being a really nightmare fuel-y book about how humans might evolve over millions of years.

Damned if I can recall what it was, but it was terrifying.

Like this?
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Postby New Grestin » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:19 pm

Genivaria wrote:
New Grestin wrote:You know, I recall there being a really nightmare fuel-y book about how humans might evolve over millions of years.

Damned if I can recall what it was, but it was terrifying.

Like this?
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No, no. It's much worse. I found it.

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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:37 am

New Grestin wrote:Given the inevitability that humanity will eventually coalesce into a single, unified racial appearance through intermarriage and such, the concept of Racial Purity is antiquated at best.

The only people that fight for racial purity nowadays are simply fighting the tide of change, and history will not treat them kindly for it.


The bold is not how biology works, but the rest is correct.
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Postby Terraductor » Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:49 am

As long as both adults like each other I have no issue with race mixing.

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Postby Calladan » Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:55 am

ThePeacekeepers wrote:
Beauity and peace wrote:umm no man that's wrong we should not divide people we should bring people together

The Lord said not to mix with the other tribes to the Jews because it causes division among brethren and it remains true to this day.


The Lord also said don't work on The Sabbath, that keeping slaves was fine and that touching the skin of a dead pig was bad. And yet somehow people who touch the skin of a dead pig get paid MILLIONS to do it, slavery has been abolished in almost every country in the world and we let people work on The Sabbath because otherwise our casualty departments would shut down, and the vast majority of our entertainment and service industries would make no profits at all.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:58 am

Populi-Terrae wrote:Anyone who doesn't believe in or is against 'the mixing of the races' must've missed basic science back in school. We need to interbreed with other races to stay keep our race alive. If we kept breeding within our own race, the white race will eventually go extinct. It might take thousands of years, but it will eventually go extinct because we all decided that having sex with Asians/whites/blacks, etc was somehow bad. Several strands of DNA from other races can build up our immune system against certain diseases and in some cases, can make us immune from certain diseases such as rabies. Breeding within the same race over and over again delivers unnecessary risks to our chances of survival in the future.

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Postby Vothal » Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:00 am

I personally don't have a problem with race mixing, if others do then that's fine but I think that nationality and culture are more important than race
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:07 pm

Calladan wrote:
ThePeacekeepers wrote:The Lord said not to mix with the other tribes to the Jews because it causes division among brethren and it remains true to this day.


The Lord also said don't work on The Sabbath, that keeping slaves was fine and that touching the skin of a dead pig was bad. And yet somehow people who touch the skin of a dead pig get paid MILLIONS to do it, slavery has been abolished in almost every country in the world and we let people work on The Sabbath because otherwise our casualty departments would shut down, and the vast majority of our entertainment and service industries would make no profits at all.

Funny how you are capable of spouting the rules that back up your inherent bigotry, and yet ignore the rules that let you live your life the way you want, isn't it?


While he is very, very wrong, you're also wrong for the same reason.

What Peacekeepers is quoting is stuff in the Old Testament relevant to ancient Israel as part of their covenant with God. Basically, the ancient Israelites were told not to mix with other tribes because the other tribes were pagan, and would likely lead them away from Judaism (And such actually did happen with King Solomon, who had married 600 women from various regions, not counting his concubines. Yeah, no idea how he kept track of all that). However, it was not on a racial basis, after all, one would likely consider all the peoples of the ancient Levant to be of the same "race" (as in skin color and features), it was on a ethno-religious basis.

Of course, with the advent of Christianity, a religion that embraces Gentiles (non-Jews) and people of Jewish descent, such laws have been made obsolete by Christ (although it is advised that Christians not marry outside the faith, it is not prohibited either).

Which brings us to your assertions. The laws you're quoting are also those given in the ancient Israelite's covenant with God, the Law of Moses. Which, like the tribal mixing law, was meant to mark the ancient Jews as being different from the surrounding other tribes. They devote themselves to God, and the others don't.

These things are largely made irrelevant by the advent of Christ. While I can't say that none of the things in the Old Testament carry over into the New in some form (that's another wall of text), I can say that the Law of Moses isn't binding to Christians and Christianity. Which is also Biblical, as recorded in the Council of Jerusalem, where the Apostles established as such in the Church in line with what Jesus taught.

On slavery, however: It is true that in the New Testament it is said that slavery was allowed. However, it is also heavily stated that Masters must realize that the slaves are their equals as human beings, because God doesn't play favorites. On this point it should be realized that the Church at this time was in no position to advocate abolition of slavery in Rome, considering they were hated enough as it was.
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Postby Saiwania » Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:24 pm

Populi-Terrae wrote:Several strands of DNA from other races can build up our immune system against certain diseases and in some cases, can make us immune from certain diseases such as rabies.


There is no such thing as an immunity to rabies so far as I know. If you're bitten by an infected animal, you'll die unless you get the vaccination regimen in time regardless of your ancestry. Some Peruvian natives are rumored to not be affected by rabies, but I don't think I'll believe that.
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The other day I was in West Frankia on my way to the blacksmith when I saw this young Gallo-Roman girl walking down the road holding hands with this hairy, lumbering Norseman. As I walked by he mumbled something in his broken, savage accent and she giggled. That's when completely I lost it. I turned around and called her what she was: a disgusting viking-lover. I tried to make it clear that she was betraying her race and that it was only a matter of time before that barbarian raped and pillaged her village, but it was no use. She started rambling about how he's not a heathen and his family had been living there for two generations and how I should mind my own business so I whipped out my Carolingian sword and scared those miscegenating miscreants off. God I hate race mixers so much.
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Postby Chessmistress » Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:52 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:Is this even an issue? Have I landed in 1950s America again?

I don't give a crap about "race". So I guess "race mixing" is my answer.


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Postby The Sauganash Union » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:07 pm

New Grestin wrote:Given the inevitability that humanity will eventually coalesce into a single, unified racial appearance through intermarriage and such, the concept of Racial Purity is antiquated at best.

The only people that fight for racial purity nowadays are simply fighting the tide of change, and history will not treat them kindly for it.


Why is that an inevitability?

Maybe in several hundred thousand years that might be possible, but it is unreasonable to assume that'll happen in the relevant future.
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Postby The Sauganash Union » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:08 pm

Populi-Terrae wrote:Anyone who doesn't believe in or is against 'the mixing of the races' must've missed basic science back in school. We need to interbreed with other races to stay keep our race alive. If we kept breeding within our own race, the white race will eventually go extinct. It might take thousands of years, but it will eventually go extinct because we all decided that having sex with Asians/whites/blacks, etc was somehow bad. Several strands of DNA from other races can build up our immune system against certain diseases and in some cases, can make us immune from certain diseases such as rabies. Breeding within the same race over and over again delivers unnecessary risks to our chances of survival in the future.


Mixed race people aren't any less susceptible to diseases as other people, and given that there is a lot of genetic diversity within races, breeding with the same race over and over is harmless.
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:15 pm

I can sorta understand some of the arguments for racial purity on a scientific basis. certain races are more prone to inherit certain diseases ( sickle cell for black and Indian people, skin cancer for whites ), and race mixing could possible make people more prone to inherit a wider variety of diseases. The chances are low, but still worthy of consideration.

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Postby Torrentio » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:15 pm

I'm in the category of people that think people should mix if they want to, or not if they don't. Today race really isn't as much of a divisive variable as culture is, especially with "cultural acceptance" movements showing open hatred towards Western cultures. The majority should not bow to the needs of one imo, and people should adapt and integrate into the culture of the place they move to.
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Postby UniversalCommons » Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:11 pm

Racial purity is kind of like breeding people like dogs, you get certain things, but there is a tradeoff with more disease, genetic problems and other issues. Genetically mutts tend to be more healthy, just like people tend to be more healthy from mixed backgrounds. When you have isolated groups that don't mix with other people, it creates problems.

The problem is not the genetic purity, it is the attitude that goes with it, that you have a right to oppress and attack other people because you come from a certain group or have a certain heritage. This is not a right. People should have a right to privacy and freedom from fear, oppression, and hatred. People who render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and follow the laws of the land should be left alone. The people who cannot respect this need to be dealt with.
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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:56 pm

Mix ALL the races! :twisted:
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