Do atheist worry about eternal damnation?

[Big Jim P]

Sorry, but god was not the first word in the sentence, so there was no reason to capitalize.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God

YHWH, Jehova, Allah? Christ perhaps?

Yes, I know the myths you were referring too. That doesn't make capitalization necessary, unless I am using their proper names.

[Erinkita III]

I once had a frog named Frog.

Your name seems familiar.

I've been around here for a few years, albeit with some long absences.
I don't restore old nations, hence the 'III'.

[Gim]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God

YHWH, Jehova, Allah? Christ perhaps?

Yes, I know the myths you were referring too. That doesn't make capitalization necessary, unless I am using their proper names.

Then, it's a different being.

[Grave_n_idle]

Actually there are entire organizations of dedicated experts on this issue who have spent their entire lives studying it. You simply refuse to believe them.

They also refuse to believe each other, so that's a very defensible position to take.

I mean, if the scientists on our planet were split in a three-way race between the theory of gravity, the theory that everything is magnetic, and the theory that the earth just sucks, skepticism about gravity would be the only logical and objective position to take.

[Gim]

Actually there are entire organizations of dedicated experts on this issue who have spent their entire lives studying it. You simply refuse to believe them.

They also refuse to believe each other, so that's a very defensible position to take.

I mean, if the scientists on our planet were split in a three-way race between the theory of gravity, the theory that everything is magnetic, and the theory that the earth just sucks, skepticism about gravity would be the only logical and objective position to take.

Are you a dedicated expert?

[Big Jim P]

Your name seems familiar.

I've been around here for a few years, albeit with some long absences.
I don't restore old nations, hence the 'III'.

I kinda guessed that.

Been around so long that a lot of names are vaguely familiar to me.

[Erinkita III]

I don't attach any significance to the arguments as objective arguments, but they certainly exist as subjective arguments - which is the point I as making to Constantinopolis: "If you've never encountered Christians arguing that there are worse ways to worship than simply not worshiping, then you've not really researched the subject."

I didn't state that at all, nor is that pertinent to my claims.

Seems like you aren't actually disagreeing with each other.
Grave is saying people make that argument. Not saying the argument has merit
Gim is saying such arguments shouldn't be heeded. Not saying that Grave does heed them.

[Big Jim P]

YHWH, Jehova, Allah? Christ perhaps?

Yes, I know the myths you were referring too. That doesn't make capitalization necessary, unless I am using their proper names.

Then, it's a different being.

Still, with no evidence, your god remains a myth. Capitalized title, or not.

[Narintia]

It's stops being murder and genocide if it's in the name of God, silly.

(/s, just in case)

What's wrong with genocide?

Nothing,silly! It's all part of God's plan, so that makes it all right, right?
/s

[Gim]

I didn't state that at all, nor is that pertinent to my claims.

Seems like you aren't actually disagreeing with each other.
Grave is saying people make that argument. Not saying the argument has merit
Gim is saying such arguments shouldn't be heeded. Not saying that Grave does heed them.

Well, that was before.

[Grave_n_idle]

Honestly, with so many atheist so knowledgeable about the Christianity, god and the bible, and after 35 pages of discussion, I am still somewhat surprised they don't worry about eternal damnation.

I know a lot of different myths, but you don't see me worrying about Zues throwing a lightening bolt at me or Thor hitting me with a hammer.

I don't know, man - as the saying goes, Jesus promised the end of all wicked people and Odin promised the end of all Ice Giants... and I don't see any Ice Giants,

Norse mythology delivers.

[Grave_n_idle]

I don't attach any significance to the arguments as objective arguments, but they certainly exist as subjective arguments - which is the point I as making to Constantinopolis: "If you've never encountered Christians arguing that there are worse ways to worship than simply not worshiping, then you've not really researched the subject."

I didn't state that at all, nor is that pertinent to my claims.

...are you Constantinopolis?

[Grave_n_idle]

They also refuse to believe each other, so that's a very defensible position to take.

I mean, if the scientists on our planet were split in a three-way race between the theory of gravity, the theory that everything is magnetic, and the theory that the earth just sucks, skepticism about gravity would be the only logical and objective position to take.

Are you a dedicated expert?

Yes.

On a number of fronts. Any in particular?

[Erinkita III]

I've been around here for a few years, albeit with some long absences.
I don't restore old nations, hence the 'III'.

I kinda guessed that.

Been around so long that a lot of names are vaguely familiar to me.

You've been around for a long, long year, stole many man's soul and faith.

[Soviet Socialist not Soviet or Socialist]

After reading about Pascal's wager, do atheist worry about eternal damnation, or the possibility of it occurring (according to the bible)?

Personally, fear of eternal damnation is not my reason for belief in the bible however how can people be so dismissive of infinite loss compared to finite gains? Even though you may not accept the bible, does it not worry you slightly?

I don't worry, and Pascal's wager is the stupidest argument about religiousness ever.

I think you are forgetting the argument of "If god doesn't exist than who wrote the bible".

[Grave_n_idle]

Oh yes, let us talk about an unnecessary sacrifice from a god that can do anything but apparently forgive others.

The act forgave the people.

Nope.

It's an act of vicarious substitution, not forgiveness. Sin is not 'forgiven' in the sacrifice of the Lamb, it is hidden by blood.

[Big Jim P]

I know a lot of different myths, but you don't see me worrying about Zues throwing a lightening bolt at me or Thor hitting me with a hammer.

I don't know, man - as the saying goes, Jesus promised the end of all wicked people and Odin promised the end of all Ice Giants... and I don't see any Ice Giants,

Norse mythology delivers.

Very true.

[Gim]

I know a lot of different myths, but you don't see me worrying about Zues throwing a lightening bolt at me or Thor hitting me with a hammer.

I don't know, man - as the saying goes, Jesus promised the end of all wicked people and Odin promised the end of all Ice Giants... and I don't see any Ice Giants,

Norse mythology delivers.

I don't know you, man.

[Big Jim P]

I kinda guessed that.

Been around so long that a lot of names are vaguely familiar to me.

You've been around for a long, long year, stole many man's soul and faith.

Hallelujah, sympathy at last!

[Gim]

You've been around for a long, long year, stole many man's soul and faith.

Hallelujah, sympathy at last!

[Big Jim P]

Hallelujah, sympathy at last!

[United States of Minori]

Simlt the atheist don't believe in any God or other "mystical" creature or place. When we say "We don't believe any god" we didn't beleve an related antagonist and place. Atheist don't believe the eistence of the God, we don't beleve the existence of Satan, of Paraidise or hell, or other similar places..

Easy

[Gim]

Simlt the atheist don't believe in any God or other "mystical" creature or place. When we say "We don't believe any god" we didn't beleve an related antagonist and place. Atheist don't believe the eistence of the God, we don't beleve the existence of Satan, of Paraidise or hell, or other similar places..

Easy

Atheists not just not believe in God, but they also oppose Him, as has been demonstrated here.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

Simlt the atheist don't believe in any God or other "mystical" creature or place. When we say "We don't believe any god" we didn't beleve an related antagonist and place. Atheist don't believe the eistence of the God, we don't beleve the existence of Satan, of Paraidise or hell, or other similar places..

Easy

Atheists not just not believe in God, but they also oppose Him, as has been demonstrated here.

How can you oppose something you don't believe in?

[Grave_n_idle]

Simlt the atheist don't believe in any God or other "mystical" creature or place. When we say "We don't believe any god" we didn't beleve an related antagonist and place. Atheist don't believe the eistence of the God, we don't beleve the existence of Satan, of Paraidise or hell, or other similar places..

Easy

Atheists not just not believe in God, but they also oppose Him, as has been demonstrated here.

That's a nonsensical claim.

Not just because it stereotypes hundreds of millions of people... but because it's internally illogical.