Advertisement
by Empire of Cats » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:53 pm
by Biancavilla » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:55 pm
by Kaschovia » Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:07 pm
by Taxation Killed the Dinosaurs » Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:16 pm
by Godular » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:07 pm
Taxation Killed the Dinosaurs wrote:Many won't, seeing as they think the Bible is invalid anyway. Though I would be willing to bet more of them consider it, at least at one point or another, than they let on.
Pascal's Wager can be a good way to show people why they should be interested in the afterlife, but most atheists in today's culture have heard about Hell so much that they've really gone numb to the idea. It doesn't really phase them.
by New haven america » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:09 pm
Godular wrote:Taxation Killed the Dinosaurs wrote:Many won't, seeing as they think the Bible is invalid anyway. Though I would be willing to bet more of them consider it, at least at one point or another, than they let on.
Pascal's Wager can be a good way to show people why they should be interested in the afterlife, but most atheists in today's culture have heard about Hell so much that they've really gone numb to the idea. It doesn't really phase them.
So many religions out there that claim if you don't believe as they do you're gonna experience >insert undesirable afterlife here<, Pascal's wager loses its value.
by Godular » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:16 pm
by United Minorities for Self-Defense » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:20 pm
The Conez Imperium wrote:After reading about Pascal's wager, do atheist worry about eternal damnation, or the possibility of it occurring (according to the bible)?
Personally, fear of eternal damnation is not my reason for belief in the bible however how can people be so dismissive of infinite loss compared to finite gains? Even though you may not accept the bible, does it not worry you slightly?
by Hallistar » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:30 pm
The Conez Imperium wrote:After reading about Pascal's wager, do atheist worry about eternal damnation, or the possibility of it occurring (according to the bible)?
Personally, fear of eternal damnation is not my reason for belief in the bible however how can people be so dismissive of infinite loss compared to finite gains? Even though you may not accept the bible, does it not worry you slightly?
by South Pacific Republic » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:45 pm
by Socialist Nordia » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:49 pm
by Montchevre » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:51 pm
by Neanderthaland » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:21 pm
by Farnhamia » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:28 pm
USS Monitor wrote:The Conez Imperium wrote:After reading about Pascal's wager, do atheist worry about eternal damnation, or the possibility of it occurring (according to the bible)?
Personally, fear of eternal damnation is not my reason for belief in the bible however how can people be so dismissive of infinite loss compared to finite gains? Even though you may not accept the bible, does it not worry you slightly?
No.
If I was worried about it I wouldn't be an atheist. Do you worry about Sauron?
by Ethel mermania » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:51 pm
by Galloism » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:55 pm
Neutraligon wrote:Simple enough because there are an infinite number of possible gods out there. There is no reason to believe your particular god is the real one. All those gods might have their own form of hell, so how do we pick when all of them have the same amount of evidence for them (none)? For all we know the real god hates those who worship any god, and likes those who worship none, so in fact you are the one who is actually putting yourself in infinite danger from that particular god. Of course, any god who puts people in hell simply because they do not worship them is a shit god not worthy of any sort of respect. That and, the very idea of worshiping anything at all is disgusting.
Well that and...since I don't believe in your god, as far as I am concerned it is as fictional as Darth Vader and Voldemort. Why would a fear a place that is pure fiction?
by Gim » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:56 pm
Galloism wrote:Neutraligon wrote:Simple enough because there are an infinite number of possible gods out there. There is no reason to believe your particular god is the real one. All those gods might have their own form of hell, so how do we pick when all of them have the same amount of evidence for them (none)? For all we know the real god hates those who worship any god, and likes those who worship none, so in fact you are the one who is actually putting yourself in infinite danger from that particular god. Of course, any god who puts people in hell simply because they do not worship them is a shit god not worthy of any sort of respect. That and, the very idea of worshiping anything at all is disgusting.
Well that and...since I don't believe in your god, as far as I am concerned it is as fictional as Darth Vader and Voldemort. Why would a fear a place that is pure fiction?
HEY!!
by Minzerland II » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:05 pm
St Anselm of Canterbury wrote:[…]who ever heard of anything having two mothers or two fathers? (Monologion, pg. 63)
by Gim » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:06 pm
Minzerland II wrote:I find myself, more often than not, fretting over whether I've condemned anyone else to 'eternal damnation', by changing their minds or whatnot, as opposed to my own 'eternal damnation'. That is to say, I'm focused entirely on being responsible for making other miserable; but that is on occasion, though.
by Ethel mermania » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:07 pm
Galloism wrote:Neutraligon wrote:Simple enough because there are an infinite number of possible gods out there. There is no reason to believe your particular god is the real one. All those gods might have their own form of hell, so how do we pick when all of them have the same amount of evidence for them (none)? For all we know the real god hates those who worship any god, and likes those who worship none, so in fact you are the one who is actually putting yourself in infinite danger from that particular god. Of course, any god who puts people in hell simply because they do not worship them is a shit god not worthy of any sort of respect. That and, the very idea of worshiping anything at all is disgusting.
Well that and...since I don't believe in your god, as far as I am concerned it is as fictional as Darth Vader and Voldemort. Why would a fear a place that is pure fiction?
HEY!!
by Galloism » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:09 pm
by Ethel mermania » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:19 pm
by The Alexandrian Polis » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:23 pm
The Conez Imperium wrote:After reading about Pascal's wager, do atheist worry about eternal damnation, or the possibility of it occurring (according to the bible)?
Personally, fear of eternal damnation is not my reason for belief in the bible however how can people be so dismissive of infinite loss compared to finite gains? Even though you may not accept the bible, does it not worry you slightly?
by Minzerland II » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:26 pm
Gim wrote:Minzerland II wrote:I find myself, more often than not, fretting over whether I've condemned anyone else to 'eternal damnation', by changing their minds or whatnot, as opposed to my own 'eternal damnation'. That is to say, I'm focused entirely on being responsible for making other miserable; but that is on occasion, though.
Repent by praying to the Lord, and He will most likely forgive you.
St Anselm of Canterbury wrote:[…]who ever heard of anything having two mothers or two fathers? (Monologion, pg. 63)
Advertisement
Users browsing this forum: Ancientania, New Fortilla
Advertisement