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Do atheist worry about eternal damnation?

Postby The Conez Imperium » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:58 am

After reading about Pascal's wager, do atheist worry about eternal damnation, or the possibility of it occurring (according to the bible)?

Personally, fear of eternal damnation is not my reason for belief in the bible however how can people be so dismissive of infinite loss compared to finite gains? Even though you may not accept the bible, does it not worry you slightly?
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:59 am

Some perhaps. I do not.
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Postby Kilobugya » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:01 am

Not the slightest. It's just so unlikely (and doesn't make much sense) that it isn't worth thinking about it. Like I don't worry that hitting a key on my keyboard will trigger a nuclear apocalypse, or that by breathing I would inhale an horrible bioengineered disease (both being actually much more likely than "eternal damnation").
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Postby USS Monitor » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:02 am

The Conez Imperium wrote:After reading about Pascal's wager, do atheist worry about eternal damnation, or the possibility of it occurring (according to the bible)?

Personally, fear of eternal damnation is not my reason for belief in the bible however how can people be so dismissive of infinite loss compared to finite gains? Even though you may not accept the bible, does it not worry you slightly?


No.

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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:02 am

Simple enough because there are an infinite number of possible gods out there. There is no reason to believe your particular god is the real one. All those gods might have their own form of hell, so how do we pick when all of them have the same amount of evidence for them (none)? For all we know the real god hates those who worship any god, and likes those who worship none, so in fact you are the one who is actually putting yourself in infinite danger from that particular god. Of course, any god who puts people in hell simply because they do not worship them is a shit god not worthy of any sort of respect. That and, the very idea of worshiping anything at all is disgusting.

Well that and...since I don't believe in your god, as far as I am concerned it is as fictional as Darth Vader and Voldemort. Why would a fear a place that is pure fiction?
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Postby Gim » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:03 am

USS Monitor wrote:
The Conez Imperium wrote:After reading about Pascal's wager, do atheist worry about eternal damnation, or the possibility of it occurring (according to the bible)?

Personally, fear of eternal damnation is not my reason for belief in the bible however how can people be so dismissive of infinite loss compared to finite gains? Even though you may not accept the bible, does it not worry you slightly?


No.

If I was worried about it I wouldn't be an atheist. Do you worry about Sauron?


Yes, if you're worried, you'd be agnostic, I think.
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The Conez Imperium wrote:After reading about Pascal's wager, do atheist worry about eternal damnation, or the possibility of it occurring (according to the bible)?

Personally, fear of eternal damnation is not my reason for belief in the bible however how can people be so dismissive of infinite loss compared to finite gains? Even though you may not accept the bible, does it not worry you slightly?


It doesn't worry me because it isn't true. The 'threat' of eternal damnation is no more a threat to me than the threat of Zeus zapping my balls off because I looked at the ocean wrong.

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Postby Risottia » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:04 am

The Conez Imperium wrote:After reading about Pascal's wager, do atheist worry about eternal damnation, or the possibility of it occurring (according to the bible)?

Personally, fear of eternal damnation is not my reason for belief in the bible however how can people be so dismissive of infinite loss compared to finite gains? Even though you may not accept the bible, does it not worry you slightly?

I don't worry, and Pascal's wager is the stupidest argument about religiousness ever.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:05 am

Gim wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
No.

If I was worried about it I wouldn't be an atheist. Do you worry about Sauron?


Yes, if you're worried, you'd be agnostic, I think.

Since being an atheist and being agnostic are not mutually exclusive not sure how that is the case.
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The Conez Imperium wrote:After reading about Pascal's wager, do atheist worry about eternal damnation, or the possibility of it occurring (according to the bible)?

Personally, fear of eternal damnation is not my reason for belief in the bible however how can people be so dismissive of infinite loss compared to finite gains? Even though you may not accept the bible, does it not worry you slightly?

I don't and Pascal's wager is the stupidest argument about religiousness ever.

I don't know the presup argument is I think even worse. The one from design is pretty stupid as well, though not as stupid s the presup or pascale's wager.
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Postby USS Monitor » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:05 am

Cisairse wrote:
The Conez Imperium wrote:After reading about Pascal's wager, do atheist worry about eternal damnation, or the possibility of it occurring (according to the bible)?

Personally, fear of eternal damnation is not my reason for belief in the bible however how can people be so dismissive of infinite loss compared to finite gains? Even though you may not accept the bible, does it not worry you slightly?


It doesn't worry me because it isn't true. The 'threat' of eternal damnation is no more a threat to me than the threat of Zeus zapping my balls off because I looked at the ocean wrong.


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Postby Frank Zipper » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:05 am

Do Christians worry about the wrath of false gods?
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Postby Cedoria » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:06 am

The Conez Imperium wrote:After reading about Pascal's wager, do atheist worry about eternal damnation, or the possibility of it occurring (according to the bible)?

Personally, fear of eternal damnation is not my reason for belief in the bible however how can people be so dismissive of infinite loss compared to finite gains? Even though you may not accept the bible, does it not worry you slightly?

To answer in word one. Nope.


Any God that would sentence me to eternal hellfire for not keeping true to my convictions is not worth believing in in the first instance. If he requires me to be hypocritical and pretend to believe things the evidence tells me to be false to get salvation, I would question the righteousness or morality of that being.

Assuming of course, you think there is any basis for his existence. I personally do not, but even if I did believe there is more than an extremely minute possibility of the Christian God existing as described, it still wouldn't worry me.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:07 am

Frank Zipper wrote:Do Christians worry about the wrath of false gods?

There is a very tongue in cheek answer to that question. :p
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:07 am

I for one am more worried about mainstream religionists eternally damning Earth to ass-backwards social values.
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Postby Gim » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:10 am

Neutraligon wrote:Since being an atheist and being agnostic are not mutually exclusive not sure how that is the case.


Mutually exclusive.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:11 am

Gim wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Since being an atheist and being agnostic are not mutually exclusive not sure how that is the case.


Mutually exclusive.

Are you saying they are, or are you trying to correct my spelling?
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Conscentia wrote:
Gim wrote:Mutually exclusive.

Agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive.

This may help you understand.


Okay.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:15 am

No.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:20 am

About as worried as I am about getting coal in my stocking at Christmas or getting money from the Tooth Fairy
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Not really. This life ends eventually :p
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Postby Doom Legions » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:22 am

As far as I know they don't even believe in that stuff, so yeah pretty sure they don't worry about it either.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:22 am

Conscentia wrote:
Gim wrote:Mutually exclusive.

Agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive.

This may help you understand.

Technically, agnosticism being about knowing whether or not God exists, and God, as a concept being utterly unknowable, everyone is agnostic.
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