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Harvard Scientists May Bring Immortality

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:18 am
by Tyrassueb
Scientists Can Reverse DNA Aging in Mice

After several years of research, Harvard scientists announce that using a chemical known as NAD+ reversed the aging process in lab mice.

Dr. David Sinclair, from Harvard Medical School, and his colleagues reveal their new findings in the latest issue of Science. They focused on an intriguing compound with anti-aging properties called NAD+, short for nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide. It's been known that younger mice had more of it than older mice and back in 2013, the researchers found that when they boosted the NAD+ levels in older mice, they looked, biologically, like much younger animals.

In the latest paper, the scientists revealed new details on how NAD+ works to keep cells young. Sinclair put drops of NAD+ into the water of a group of mice, and within a couple of hours, their NAD+ levels started to rise. Within the first week, the scientists saw obvious age reversal in muscle and improvements in DNA repair. “We can’t tell the difference between the tissues from an old mouse that is two years old versus a young mouse that is three to four months old," Sinclair says.


Immortality appears to be mere years away if the human research pans out.

What social effects can we see come about from an effectively immortal population? Political effects? Religious? Do you think that governments could enforce population controls akin to what China has done to prevent a population explosion?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:20 am
by Gim
Tyrassueb wrote:Scientists Can Reverse DNA Aging in Mice

Immortality appears to be mere years away if the human research pans out.


That's a good news for the posterity, not for this generation. :(

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:22 am
by Tyrassueb
Gim wrote:
Tyrassueb wrote:Scientists Can Reverse DNA Aging in Mice

Immortality appears to be mere years away if the human research pans out.


That's a good news for the posterity, not for this generation. :(

If you read the article, they are already prepping for human trials using a very similar compound. The studies they did on mice went as thus.

In the latest paper, the scientists revealed new details on how NAD+ works to keep cells young. Sinclair put drops of NAD+ into the water of a group of mice, and within a couple of hours, their NAD+ levels started to rise. Within the first week, the scientists saw obvious age reversal in muscle and improvements in DNA repair. “We can’t tell the difference between the tissues from an old mouse that is two years old versus a young mouse that is three to four months old," Sinclair says.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:40 am
by Donut section
Please tell me it gives prescient visions as well.

+1 for naming it spice melange

I guess we're going to need the bene tlelaxu to harvest replacement organs for us though.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:42 am
by Costa Fierro
So it's going to be Benjamin Button but with the added benefits of not being able to sue for being turned into a pre-pubescent child.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:43 am
by Gim
Tyrassueb wrote:
Gim wrote:
That's a good news for the posterity, not for this generation. :(

If you read the article, they are already prepping for human trials using a very similar compound. The studies they did on mice went as thus.

In the latest paper, the scientists revealed new details on how NAD+ works to keep cells young. Sinclair put drops of NAD+ into the water of a group of mice, and within a couple of hours, their NAD+ levels started to rise. Within the first week, the scientists saw obvious age reversal in muscle and improvements in DNA repair. “We can’t tell the difference between the tissues from an old mouse that is two years old versus a young mouse that is three to four months old," Sinclair says.


That's nice. I hope I get to participate in the trial, so that I can become immortal, or, at least, live a long-lasting life.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:48 am
by Gurori
That is wonderful! I can't wait for biological immortality to become a thing!

We're one step closer to basically becoming gods!

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:49 am
by Gim
Gurori wrote:That is wonderful! I can't wait for biological immortality to become a thing!

We're one step closer to basically becoming gods!


Well, we might be able to live long, but we might not eliminate the pain of living, if you know what I mean.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:51 am
by Torsiedelle
Gim wrote:
Gurori wrote:That is wonderful! I can't wait for biological immortality to become a thing!

We're one step closer to basically becoming gods!


Well, we might be able to live long, but we might not eliminate the pain of living, if you know what I mean.


Better for me; I'd much prefer to live forever, and then take myself out whenever I eventually think "Eh, fuck this shit."

That's just my preference, though. I sure ain't gonna let mother nature get that kill.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:52 am
by Gim
Torsiedelle wrote:
Gim wrote:
Well, we might be able to live long, but we might not eliminate the pain of living, if you know what I mean.


Better for me; I'd much prefer to live forever, and then take myself out whenever I eventually think "Eh, fuck this shit."

That's just my preference, though. I sure ain't gonna let mother nature get that kill.


That's bold of you. Maybe I should live more boldly. I have more fear than you think. :(

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:54 am
by Gurori
Torsiedelle wrote:
Gim wrote:
Well, we might be able to live long, but we might not eliminate the pain of living, if you know what I mean.


Better for me; I'd much prefer to live forever, and then take myself out whenever I eventually think "Eh, fuck this shit."

That's just my preference, though. I sure ain't gonna let mother nature get that kill.


You think different, I like you.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:55 am
by Torsiedelle
Gim wrote:
Torsiedelle wrote:
Better for me; I'd much prefer to live forever, and then take myself out whenever I eventually think "Eh, fuck this shit."

That's just my preference, though. I sure ain't gonna let mother nature get that kill.


That's bold of you. Maybe I should live more boldly. I have more fear than you think. :(


Oi...I'm not the boldest person either.

I just think living like that would be preferable to me.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:57 am
by Super Sol Republic
Tyrassueb wrote:Scientists Can Reverse DNA Aging in Mice

Immortality appears to be mere years away if the human research pans out.

Ehh, Captalism will just ruin it anyway, they will sell bottles of this for 300 bucks a piece I betcha

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:59 am
by Gim
Torsiedelle wrote:
Gim wrote:
That's bold of you. Maybe I should live more boldly. I have more fear than you think. :(


Oi...I'm not the boldest person either.

I just think living like that would be preferable to me.


Nice.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:00 am
by Gurori
Super Sol Republic wrote:
Tyrassueb wrote:Scientists Can Reverse DNA Aging in Mice

Immortality appears to be mere years away if the human research pans out.

Ehh, Captalism will just ruin it anyway, they will sell bottles of this for 300 bucks a piece I betcha


Communists will be literally immortal.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:02 am
by Torsiedelle
Super Sol Republic wrote:
Tyrassueb wrote:Scientists Can Reverse DNA Aging in Mice

Immortality appears to be mere years away if the human research pans out.

Ehh, Captalism will just ruin it anyway, they will sell bottles of this for 300 bucks a piece I betcha


$300 a bang? I'd be all over that shit. They can take my left nut for that shit. I won't have to worry about it, I'd have eternity to get a new one afterwards!

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:02 am
by Gim
Gurori wrote:
Super Sol Republic wrote: Ehh, Captalism will just ruin it anyway, they will sell bottles of this for 300 bucks a piece I betcha


Communists will be literally immortal.


:?
I'm starting to get scared. What if a massive, indestructible revolution occurs?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:02 am
by Oerstland
Ooooh, that's pretty cool. Maybe in the future (decades from now, maybe) us 90's people will live to become several centuries old, so we can constantly nag our grand-grand-grand-grand (and so on) grandchildren of the "good old early third millenia"? :p

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:03 am
by Torsiedelle
Gim wrote:
Gurori wrote:
Communists will be literally immortal.


:?
I'm starting to get scared. What if a massive, indestructible revolution occurs?


Helicopters are immortal too. *nods*

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:03 am
by Gim
Torsiedelle wrote:
Gim wrote:
:?
I'm starting to get scared. What if a massive, indestructible revolution occurs?


Helicopters are immortal too. *nods*


However, we can actually control that. An immortal revolution isn't something we can control.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:04 am
by Torsiedelle
Gim wrote:
Torsiedelle wrote:
Helicopters are immortal too. *nods*


However, we can actually control that. An immortal revolution isn't something we can control.


But we can.

With helicopter rides.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:05 am
by Gim
Torsiedelle wrote:
Gim wrote:
However, we can actually control that. An immortal revolution isn't something we can control.


But we can.

With helicopter rides.


However, they won't die, and they will continue to revolt.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:05 am
by Anywhere Else But Here
Gim wrote:
Tyrassueb wrote:Scientists Can Reverse DNA Aging in Mice

Immortality appears to be mere years away if the human research pans out.


That's a good news for the posterity, not for this generation. :(

Those smug little immortal bastards, right?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:06 am
by Gim
Anywhere Else But Here wrote:
Gim wrote:
That's a good news for the posterity, not for this generation. :(

Those smug little immortal bastards, right?


Yep. Bad, immortal kids. 8)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:13 am
by Monte Cristo
If perfected, this needs to be tightly controlled. We can't have everyone living forever. The infrastructure just isn't there to support it. Also, they can stop DNA aging and breaking down, but there's no cure for an aging mind.

However, that said, this could have great implications for future medicine, especially in things like fitness and well being.