Is it time to get rid of Congress?

[American Imperial Realm]

You don't dissolve the senate until you've completed your Death Star.

And even then make sure you shield your exhaust port and check to see if Bannon has a pair of twins he doesn't know about.

I don't want to dissolve the senate, i still want them around to rubber stamp our legislation.

[United Ambera]

The U.S. Congress is a bastard organization full of corrupt fools owned by massive corporations. Too beholden to serve the people.

Congress has the lowest approval rating in history. 19%

Let's not get emotional about 200 year old pieces of paper and institutions long since evolved and changed.

It's time to get rid of Congress and empower the executive to fulfill the direct will of the People.

no more petty bureaucracy. It's time to empower the leader and reorganize.

Politics is too inefficient.

"Empower the Executive"
Yeah, that will surely fulfill the direct will of the people (sarcasm if you couldn't tell)
And that piece of paper is what help found and develop America, to simply get rid of it would harm the nation in many ways.
It is true that many members of Congress are corrupt, but completely switching to a system of near totalitarian scale wouldn't give people more will over the Government and wouldn't serve them in any way.

[Neanderthaland]

I suppose a year or so of this plan would discredit American Fascists forever.

But no. Not worth it.

[Ifreann]

You don't dissolve the senate until you've completed your Death Star.

And even then make sure you shield your exhaust port and check to see if Bannon has a pair of twins he doesn't know about.

I don't want to dissolve the senate, i still want them around to rubber stamp our legislation.

"our"
Please tell me you imagine that you'd be a part of this dictatorship.

[American Imperial Realm]

The U.S. Congress is a bastard organization full of corrupt fools owned by massive corporations. Too beholden to serve the people.

Congress has the lowest approval rating in history. 19%

Let's not get emotional about 200 year old pieces of paper and institutions long since evolved and changed.

It's time to get rid of Congress and empower the executive to fulfill the direct will of the People.

no more petty bureaucracy. It's time to empower the leader and reorganize.

Politics is too inefficient.

"Empower the Executive"
Yeah, that will surely fulfill the direct will of the people (sarcasm if you couldn't tell)
And that piece of paper is what help found and develop America, to simply get rid of it would harm the nation in many ways.
It is true that many members of Congress are corrupt, but completely switching to a system of near totalitarian scale wouldn't give people more will over the Government and wouldn't serve them in any way.

It would serve the will of the people better than Congress or the current ruling party ever could. The Bushes and Clintons of the world who dominate, and the people like Trump... They're the standard in our failed dual-party system. It's time to throw off the shackles of established oppression and throw the whole corrupt, rotten structure away.

A strong executive who is able to secure our Race and our nation is what we need. The people are generally not very intelligent, and don't bother learning about the issues. They vote their feelings, not their logic. The problem with the liberal ideology generally.

We need a strong leader who will deport non-whites, who will create policies to preserve the white character of our nation. We need a leader who will institute universal healthcare over the whims of the electorate, someone who will not let weakness hinder us from the necessary policies to exterminate our enemies, such as ISIS.

Gloves off, enemies under ground. That's how it has to be done.

[Oneracon]

It's not time to get rid of Congress until someone burns the Capitol down, then you immediately blame it on Mexicans and/or Muslims (Mexican Muslims?) and suspend the Bill of Rights. Then you arrest all of your political opponents and have a rubber-stamp session of the remaining Congress to pass an Enabling Act giving unlimited power to the executive.

[Habna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPJy0HTRD4s

[The Blaatschapen]

It's not time to get rid of Congress until someone burns the Capitol down, then you immediately blame it on Mexicans and/or Muslims (Mexican Muslims?) and suspend the Bill of Rights. Then you arrest all of your political opponents and have a rubber-stamp session of the remaining Congress to pass an Enabling Act giving unlimited power to the executive.

That would be repeating history in a fashion. Do you need a Dutch person to frame the fire on?

[Soyouso]

I suppose a year or so of this plan would discredit American Fascists forever.

But no. Not worth it.

Simply getting rid of congress wouldn't be fascist. The president would be something more of a dictator, the title probably changing, and elections would either be gone or at the very least there'd only be one party allowed.

[Oneracon]

It's not time to get rid of Congress until someone burns the Capitol down, then you immediately blame it on Mexicans and/or Muslims (Mexican Muslims?) and suspend the Bill of Rights. Then you arrest all of your political opponents and have a rubber-stamp session of the remaining Congress to pass an Enabling Act giving unlimited power to the executive.

That would be repeating history in a fashion.

Hey, if it worked before it's worth trying again.

Do you need a Dutch person to frame the fire on?

A Dutch-Mexican Muslim, maybe? I'm not sure that the recipient of the blame being from the Netherlands is a requirement. We'll try without first and then if it doesn't work we'll bring in a Dutchman.

[American Imperial Realm]

It's not time to get rid of Congress until someone burns the Capitol down, then you immediately blame it on Mexicans and/or Muslims (Mexican Muslims?) and suspend the Bill of Rights. Then you arrest all of your political opponents and have a rubber-stamp session of the remaining Congress to pass an Enabling Act giving unlimited power to the executive.

That would be repeating history in a fashion. Do you need a Dutch person to frame the fire on?

No, the fire should be started by a muslim terrorist. With the fire killing the entire house and senate while it was in session as a result of this terrorist attack, certain special powers will be required by the Leader to assure domestic tranquility.

Dutch person just doesn't scream 'international threat to American security' like a terrorist attack does.

then the biggest political threats can be deported.

[American Imperial Realm]

I suppose a year or so of this plan would discredit American Fascists forever.

But no. Not worth it.

Simply getting rid of congress wouldn't be fascist. The president would be something more of a dictator, the title probably changing, and elections would either be gone or at the very least there'd only be one party allowed.

Indeed. Camps would have to be open to deal with the influx of traitors to the Republic. the Party in power would have it's name changed, and all opposing parties must be banned. All workers must be united in a government-run union and a socialist state must be created. All citizens must be numbered and recorded. the NSA should be taken over and expanded by a loyal person and a second army must be created, a special army loyal only to the Party.

The first goal must be to subvert the NSA's special 'court' in order to make it effectively a rubber-stamp for the security services.

[Oneracon]

That would be repeating history in a fashion. Do you need a Dutch person to frame the fire on?

No, the fire should be started by a muslim terrorist. With the fire killing the entire house and senate while it was in session as a result of this terrorist attack, certain special powers will be required by the Leader to assure domestic tranquility.

Dutch person just doesn't scream 'international threat to American security' like a terrorist attack does.

then the biggest political threats can be deported.

A single attack can never kill the entire House and Senate, since Congress has assigned designated survivors since 2005.

And besides, the Reichstag fire never killed anyone. It was simply used as evidence that communists were plotting against Germany and used as the impetus for suspension of civil liberties.

[Soyouso]

Simply getting rid of congress wouldn't be fascist. The president would be something more of a dictator, the title probably changing, and elections would either be gone or at the very least there'd only be one party allowed.

Indeed. Camps would have to be open to deal with the influx of traitors to the Republic. the Party in power would have it's name changed, and all opposing parties must be banned. All workers must be united in a government-run union and a socialist state must be created. All citizens must be numbered and recorded. the NSA should be taken over and expanded by a loyal person and a second army must be created, a special army loyal only to the Party.

The first goal must be to subvert the NSA's special 'court' in order to make it effectively a rubber-stamp for the security services.

Well, socialism isn't automatically required for there to be a mixed (as in more government owned industry) economy, but I'd imagine it's likely what would happen if America went fascist, knowing my country.
I guess it certainly would be better if nationalists were in charge of the NSA, as their primary concern would be the nation. That way instead of watching us and our wives through the red light on our TVs they'd actually use it to arrest potential terrorists and criminals before they act

[Escape from Trump]

Or we can just reduce corporate control over politics with more stringent donation limits. You know, instead of giving a narcisstic toddler complete control over the country.

[Ifreann]

No, the fire should be started by a muslim terrorist. With the fire killing the entire house and senate while it was in session as a result of this terrorist attack, certain special powers will be required by the Leader to assure domestic tranquility.

Dutch person just doesn't scream 'international threat to American security' like a terrorist attack does.

then the biggest political threats can be deported.

A single attack can never kill the entire House and Senate, since Congress has assigned designated survivors since 2005.

Obviously you have to somehow kill the designated survivor as well.

And somehow prevent elections from happening.

And achieve this in secret despite talking about doing it in public, on the record.

[American Imperial Realm]

No, the fire should be started by a muslim terrorist. With the fire killing the entire house and senate while it was in session as a result of this terrorist attack, certain special powers will be required by the Leader to assure domestic tranquility.

Dutch person just doesn't scream 'international threat to American security' like a terrorist attack does.

then the biggest political threats can be deported.

A single attack can never kill the entire House and Senate, since Congress has assigned designated survivors since 2005.

And besides, the Reichstag fire never killed anyone. It was simply used as evidence that communists were plotting against Germany and used as the impetus for suspension of civil liberties.

The fire may not kill anyone, that's just the cover story. The ultimate goal is ultimate power for the Party and therefore the People as embodied by the Party.

Such a devastating and destabilizing attack would certainly be more than enough excuse for certain extra powers.

Once those initial powers are gained, i don't think there would be any intention of ever letting them go.

[American Imperial Realm]

I don't want to dissolve the senate, i still want them around to rubber stamp our legislation.

"our"
Please tell me you imagine that you'd be a part of this dictatorship.

No, i don't care if i am or not. as long as it is in the best interests of our nation and race.

[Ifreann]

"our"
Please tell me you imagine that you'd be a part of this dictatorship.

No, i don't care if i am or not. as long as it is in the best interests of our nation and race.

That's a shame, it's always funnier when authoritarian types imagine that they'd have all the power instead of being the ones with the boot on their necks.

[American Imperial Realm]

A single attack can never kill the entire House and Senate, since Congress has assigned designated survivors since 2005.

Obviously you have to somehow kill the designated survivor as well.

And somehow prevent elections from happening.

And achieve this in secret despite talking about doing it in public, on the record.

It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything. -- Joseph Stalin

[The Blaatschapen]

"our"
Please tell me you imagine that you'd be a part of this dictatorship.

No, i don't care if i am or not. as long as it is in the best interests of our nation and race.

Ah, so then it would revert back to some kind of democracy, since that's in its best interests.

[American Imperial Realm]

No, i don't care if i am or not. as long as it is in the best interests of our nation and race.

That's a shame, it's always funnier when authoritarian types imagine that they'd have all the power instead of being the ones with the boot on their necks.

I'd expect to be pretty low on the totem poll. I'd be happy just being a functionary, maybe an agent or soldier of the Regime. The pleasure of rounding up my enemies would be more than enough to keep me happy for a lifetime.

[Ifreann]

Obviously you have to somehow kill the designated survivor as well.

And somehow prevent elections from happening.

And achieve this in secret despite talking about doing it in public, on the record.

It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything. -- Joseph Stalin

Please, post more about your plan to take over the government. That's sure to guarantee success.

[American Imperial Realm]

No, i don't care if i am or not. as long as it is in the best interests of our nation and race.

Ah, so then it would revert back to some kind of democracy, since that's in its best interests.

No, democracy eventually breeds the sort of problems we have now. It degenerates. It goes from "Minorities shouldn't be slaves" to "Minorities should have basic rights" to "minorities can vote" to "minorities can represent/lead"

Then it goes from "Homosexuals shouldn't be permitted" to "Homosexuals can engage in sodomy without jail time" to "homosexuals can marry"... I mean, it all devolves over time as an uncontrolled culture and society undermines itself. Culture in a 'free society' eventually disintegrates into the most shocking things, things that sell. Like sex. This devolves society and undermines our morals, our nation and denigrates our race.

A strong, idealistic party is the only way to assure that the ideology is not only maintained but imposed.

[The Blaatschapen]

Ah, so then it would revert back to some kind of democracy, since that's in its best interests.

No, democracy eventually breeds the sort of problems we have now. It degenerates. It goes from "Minorities shouldn't be slaves" to "Minorities should have basic rights" to "minorities can vote" to "minorities can represent/lead"

Then it goes from "Homosexuals shouldn't be permitted" to "Homosexuals can engage in sodomy without jail time" to "homosexuals can marry"... I mean, it all devolves over time as an uncontrolled culture and society undermines itself. Culture in a 'free society' eventually disintegrates into the most shocking things, things that sell. Like sex. This devolves society and undermines our morals, our nation and denigrates our race.

A strong, idealistic party is the only way to assure that the ideology is not only maintained but imposed.

You see degeneration, I see progression.

And clearly, since this was all decided through democracy, the USA sees it that way too