Possible "Terrorist Incident" in Westminster, 4 killed

[Ifreann]

And when do you then loosen or remove that tourniquet? Because if you fuck that up and do it slightly too early, they die.

Then don't fucking remove the tourniquet.

If you fuck it up and do it slightly too late, you permanently disable them.

Better than dying. Besides, a tourniquet can stay on for two hours; if emergency services don't come by then, then something's terribly wrong.

And if a tourniquet isn't always appropriate, then that would be included in the lesson.

In one of the one hour lessons taken over 4 years.

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In the Army we get to practice bondage by putting tourniquets on each other.

The rest is useful, especially in places where the tourniquet can't go. Tourniquets are only for the limbs and neck.

The fuck?

I'm no doctor, but I think when they go around the neck they're called garrottes.

[Great Nepal]

...or, we could invest in emergency response so they can expand their rapid response team and reduce response time for emergencies if incident like this happens in more remote location

Why not both?

Lack of benefit? Real risk of a person who thinks they remember what they're supposed to do but really doesn't? I've no issue with a basic first aid class in school, we had one - my problem comes when you're expecting them to then essentially be first respondents in situation like this when they should be calling 999, detailing exact nature of injury, and getting a response from emergency services.

instead of having bunch of people who have half forgotten their lesson trying to administer first aid and messing up.

Okay, make it a daily class then.

People have to go to work.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Why not both?

Lack of benefit?

There's no benefit in knowing how to apply first aid?

Okay, make it a daily class then.

People have to go to work.

In school?

I'm no doctor, but I think when they go around the neck they're called garrottes.

*Maniacal laughter*

[Great Nepal]

Lack of benefit? Real risk of a person who thinks they remember what they're supposed to do but really doesn't? I've no issue with a basic first aid class in school, we had one - my problem comes when you're expecting them to then essentially be first respondents in situation like this when they should be calling 999, detailing exact nature of injury, and getting a response from emergency services.


People have to go to work.

In school?

So you're plan is to have schoolchildren rushing upto scene of significant attack before emergency services arrive (within 15 minute maximum) to 1. administer first aid to the person and 2. calm the person enough to administer the procedure and generally spend significant time around the area instead of running as far as they can in the other direction...? Yes I can not think of how this could ever go wrong.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

In school?

So you're plan is to have schoolchildren rushing upto scene of significant attack before emergency services arrive (within 15 minute maximum) to 1. administer first aid to the person and 2. calm the person enough to administer the procedure and generally spend significant time around the area instead of running as far as they can in the other direction...? Yes I can not think of how this could ever go wrong.

Teenagers don't stay teenagers forever.

[Ifreann]

In school?

So you're plan is to have schoolchildren rushing upto scene of significant attack before emergency services arrive (within 15 minute maximum) to 1. administer first aid to the person and 2. calm the person enough to administer the procedure and generally spend significant time around the area instead of running as far as they can in the other direction...? Yes I can not think of how this could ever go wrong.

They're also going to be getting counterterrorism training.

[Fartsniffage]

So you're plan is to have schoolchildren rushing upto scene of significant attack before emergency services arrive (within 15 minute maximum) to 1. administer first aid to the person and 2. calm the person enough to administer the procedure and generally spend significant time around the area instead of running as far as they can in the other direction...? Yes I can not think of how this could ever go wrong.

They're also going to be getting counterterrorism training.

You mean they don't all play Counter-Strike already?

[Great Nepal]

So you're plan is to have schoolchildren rushing upto scene of significant attack before emergency services arrive (within 15 minute maximum) to 1. administer first aid to the person and 2. calm the person enough to administer the procedure and generally spend significant time around the area instead of running as far as they can in the other direction...? Yes I can not think of how this could ever go wrong.

Teenagers don't stay teenagers forever.

No but then they would not be having daily lessons as adults; so when they turn 20ish they mostly forget what they learnt and instead think they know what they should be doing when they have actually mostly forgotten that.

So you're plan is to have schoolchildren rushing upto scene of significant attack before emergency services arrive (within 15 minute maximum) to 1. administer first aid to the person and 2. calm the person enough to administer the procedure and generally spend significant time around the area instead of running as far as they can in the other direction...? Yes I can not think of how this could ever go wrong.

They're also going to be getting counterterrorism training.

We could replace the police with kids...

[Ifreann]

They're also going to be getting counterterrorism training.

You mean they don't all play Counter-Strike already?

No, some play Overwatch.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

So you're plan is to have schoolchildren rushing upto scene of significant attack before emergency services arrive (within 15 minute maximum) to 1. administer first aid to the person and 2. calm the person enough to administer the procedure and generally spend significant time around the area instead of running as far as they can in the other direction...? Yes I can not think of how this could ever go wrong.

They're also going to be getting counterterrorism training.

Knowing what to do in event of a terrorist attack is helpful.

[Fartsniffage]

You mean they don't all play Counter-Strike already?

No, some play Overwatch.

Fucking kids these days....

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

No, some play Overwatch.

Fucking kids these days....

Who don't love dat Tracer booty?

[Fartsniffage]

They're also going to be getting counterterrorism training.

Knowing what to do in event of a terrorist attack is helpful.

You run the fuck away. It's pretty simple.

[Great Nepal]

They're also going to be getting counterterrorism training.

Knowing what to do in event of a terrorist attack is helpful.

Yes, unless you've formal qualifications and are employed in appropriate field and especially if you're a schoolkid - pull out your phone, start running in the opposite direction, call 999, don't stop running.

[Ifreann]

No, some play Overwatch.

Fucking kids these days....

Maybe this is why teen pregnancy is down.

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Knowing what to do in event of a terrorist attack is helpful.

You run the fuck away. It's pretty simple.

But how many years will we need to teach kids that?

[Khalisako]

So? There was probably 4 or more people killed because of violent crime in the USA today or a few days ago. nothing uncommon... actualy I think it's a day/weekly occurance

Nobody talk about that tho, because it'd not something considered "Abnormal". tho, in rality, the "terroist attack" is no more important than that is.

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

So? There was probably 4 or more people killed because of violent crime in the USA today or a few days ago. nothing uncommon... actualy I think it's a day/weekly occurance

Nobody talk about that tho, because it'd not something considered "Abnormal". tho, in rality, the "terroist attack" is no more important than that is.

I mean, that's true but the subjective significance is what's alarmed people. You know that out of those thousands killed daily in America, zero are likely to be within a mile of the US Capitol.
Well just imagine a bunch of tourists got shot and ran over by an islamonutbag in front of the Capitol. That would shock most Americans, no?
That's what happened in London.

[Ifreann]

Knowing what to do in event of a terrorist attack is helpful.

Yes, unless you've formal qualifications and are employed in appropriate field and especially if you're a schoolkid - pull out your phone, start running in the opposite direction, call 999, don't stop running.

I mean. Stop eventually. We don't need kids lemminging off the cliffs of Dover.

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So? There was probably 4 or more people killed because of violent crime in the USA.

Nobody talk about that tho, because it'd not something considered "Abnormal".

This was a guy trying to force his way into the seat of government, though. If someone killed 4 people trying to charge into Congress, you'd hear about it.

Oh, and he was a Muslim. Apparently that matters, like, a lot.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Fucking kids these days....

Maybe this is why teen pregnancy is down.

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You run the fuck away. It's pretty simple.

But how many years will we need to teach kids that?

Four.

[Khalisako]

Yes, unless you've formal qualifications and are employed in appropriate field and especially if you're a schoolkid - pull out your phone, start running in the opposite direction, call 999, don't stop running.

I mean. Stop eventually. We don't need kids lemminging off the cliffs of Dover.

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So? There was probably 4 or more people killed because of violent crime in the USA.

Nobody talk about that tho, because it'd not something considered "Abnormal".

This was a guy trying to force his way into the seat of government, though. If someone killed 4 people trying to charge into Congress, you'd hear about it.

Oh, and he was a Muslim. Apparently that matters, like, a lot.

A lot of people what to be in seats of government. Jut because he's muslim doesn't mean he shouldn't be laughed at for thinking he could ever get that type of job.

Actually, i think the west taking such worry with islamic terrorism is what partially fuels islamic terrorists into thinkthing that acts actually matter worth a fuck, in the grand scheme of things.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Knowing what to do in event of a terrorist attack is helpful.

Yes, unless you've formal qualifications and are employed in appropriate field and especially if you're a schoolkid - pull out your phone, start running in the opposite direction, call 999, don't stop running.

What if you're caught in a restaurant?

[Fartsniffage]

Yes, unless you've formal qualifications and are employed in appropriate field and especially if you're a schoolkid - pull out your phone, start running in the opposite direction, call 999, don't stop running.

What if you're caught in a restaurant?

What if the pilot of your airliner has a heart attack? We gonna teach all kids to fly airliners?

[Fartsniffage]

I mean. Stop eventually. We don't need kids lemminging off the cliffs of Dover.

Think about that for a sec. If enough kids did it then we'd get a landbridge to Europe and then we'd get a lower strain on public services and we could end all this BREXIT nonsense.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

What if you're caught in a restaurant?

What if the pilot of your airliner has a heart attack? We gonna teach all kids to fly airliners?

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It's not like there's never been an attack in a restaurant.

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

I mean. Stop eventually. We don't need kids lemminging off the cliffs of Dover.

Think about that for a sec. If enough kids did it then we'd get a landbridge to Europe and then we'd get a lower strain on public services and we could end all this BREXIT nonsense.

Nonsense. We only need about 500,000 Tigers.