Possible "Terrorist Incident" in Westminster, 4 killed

[Vassenor]

In the US, a western anglophone country where Catholicism is not the majority view.

Those qualifiers are important.

Does Vass live in a western anglophone country where Catholicism is not the majority view?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_ ... ed_Kingdom

Well...

[Proctopeo]

Does Vass live in a western anglophone country where Catholicism is not the majority view?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_ ... ed_Kingdom

Well...

Looking at the statistics in the same article, it looks like that even for Northern Ireland, it's not the majority.

[Fartsniffage]

[Imperializt Russia]

In any case this is pretty much a textbook moral panic. Hence why people are desperate for the "us" vs "them" to continue; it's hard to keep that going when people stop othering your folk devils.

Yeah, this whole "Blitz spirit" being evoked at the minute strikes me as a little overdone. Or a lot.
"Everyone's gone back to work the next day!"

Well, to be blunt, nearly everyone in London wasn't directly impacted, and there wasn't something especially to fear in the coming days - it was a badly-planned lone wolf attack with no specialist equipment or weapons - it wasn't like a massive car bombing like 1993, or a mass shooting like Bataclan, or coordinated suicide bombings like 7/7 that targeted the major transport links.

[Corrian]

And you people wonderived why wilders, lepen, and may are on the uprise in europe.

Yeah, because humans are stupid and hate just boils up more irrational hate into an endless cycle.

[Ifreann]

No, it wouldn't, thanks to foreign courts imposing their laws on Britain. Once Br has successfully Exited then the old men(and their new Iron Lady) will be able to send Vass to the dungeons without the bloody Euros stopping them this time.

We disagree.

Stop being wrong and we won't.

[Gauthier]

And you people wonderived why wilders, lepen, and may are on the uprise in europe.

Yeah, because humans are stupid and hate just boils up more irrational hate into an endless cycle.

The Netherlands just took one good look at Trump, and said "Knothanx" with Wilders.

[Senkaku]

And you people wonderived why wilders, lepen, and may are on the uprise in europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_panic

[Anywhere Else But Here]

What exactly does "win" mean in this context?

The extention of the umma to the UK, and the implementation of sharia law.

Yes I know that is not the goal of the majority of Muslims in the UK, and I know that most muslims who come here anyway are trying to get away from that nonsense. All that said, the guys with the bombs, guns and knives committing these attacks feel very differently about the matter, and their feelings need to be respected.

So "win" means something that is effectively impossible. Cool, we're all right, then.

[Herskerstad]

Yeah, because humans are stupid and hate just boils up more irrational hate into an endless cycle.

The Netherlands just took one good look at Trump, and said "Knothanx" with Wilders.

And then shifted remarkably to the right in their political discourse with Wilders being the second highest polling?

[Senkaku]

The extention of the umma to the UK, and the implementation of sharia law.

So if it's just a few guys with guns and bombs, most of who are thousands of miles away, and Britain has one of the world's most powerful militaries and security apparatuses, I don't think this is gonna happen. Y'all need to settle the fuck down.

[Neo Balka]

The extention of the umma to the UK, and the implementation of sharia law.

So if it's just a few guys with guns and bombs, most of who are thousands of miles away, and Britain has one of the world's most powerful militaries and security apparatuses, I don't think this is gonna happen. Y'all need to settle the fuck down.

Its a joke.

[Ethel mermania]

We disagree.

Stop being wrong and we won't.

Sweetie, I am not the one in the wrong here. Show me a source that shows the majority of whiteeth male Britons over 40, want to take rights away from the gay community.

[Ethel mermania]

The extention of the umma to the UK, and the implementation of sharia law.

So if it's just a few guys with guns and bombs, most of who are thousands of miles away, and Britain has one of the world's most powerful militaries and security apparatuses, I don't think this is gonna happen. Y'all need to settle the fuck down.

Y'all need to buy a clue, it's not going to stop till one side or another wins.

[Senkaku]

So if it's just a few guys with guns and bombs, most of who are thousands of miles away, and Britain has one of the world's most powerful militaries and security apparatuses, I don't think this is gonna happen. Y'all need to settle the fuck down.

Its a joke.

it's really not, lmk when ISIS has Challenger 2s, Eurofighters, a navy of any kind (much less one with modern nuclear attack subs), SAMs, cruise missiles, spy satellites, and nukes and maybe i'll be a little more concerned about the possibility of them conquering Europe or whatever the hell you're afraid of

[Senkaku]

So if it's just a few guys with guns and bombs, most of who are thousands of miles away, and Britain has one of the world's most powerful militaries and security apparatuses, I don't think this is gonna happen. Y'all need to settle the fuck down.

Y'all need to buy a clue, it's not going to stop till one side or another wins.

"winning" doesn't fucking mean anything lmao, but if it did I'm pretty comfortable saying "we" (whoever the fuck "we" are) are winning prrrrretty handily (see: Mosul getting the shit bombed out of it)

Also, "it" (again, whatever that is supposed to mean) will stop when economic and social conditions in countries vulnerable to terrorism improve and their governments become stable enough to run security apparatuses that can shut down terrorist cells, and when neighboring states stop sponsoring said cells. Aka possibly never. That doesn't mean that therefore the terrorists will overrun the world.

Any fear that ISIS or their ilk are going to somehow overrun Europe or America are unfounded and ridiculous paranoid fantasies out of an Infowars-induced fever dream.

[Neo Balka]

Its a joke.

it's really not, lmk when ISIS has Challenger 2s, Eurofighters, a navy of any kind (much less one with modern nuclear attack subs), SAMs, cruise missiles, spy satellites, and nukes and maybe i'll be a little more concerned about the possibility of them conquering Europe or whatever the hell you're afraid of

Considering that they dont need heavy equipment to sneak into turkey and fucking get into Europe, i wonder how Paris got its shit shot up....

[Neo Balka]

Y'all need to buy a clue, it's not going to stop till one side or another wins.

"winning" doesn't fucking mean anything lmao, but if it did I'm pretty comfortable saying "we" (whoever the fuck "we" are) are winning prrrrretty handily (see: Mosul getting the shit bombed out of it)


Any fear that ISIS or their ilk are going to somehow overrun Europe or America are unfounded and ridiculous paranoid fantasies out of an Infowars-induced fever dream.

And another jihadist group will simply spring up.

[Senkaku]

it's really not, lmk when ISIS has Challenger 2s, Eurofighters, a navy of any kind (much less one with modern nuclear attack subs), SAMs, cruise missiles, spy satellites, and nukes and maybe i'll be a little more concerned about the possibility of them conquering Europe or whatever the hell you're afraid of

Considering that they dont need heavy equipment to sneak into turkey and fucking get into Europe, i wonder how Paris got its shit shot up....

Is occasionally blowing some people up kinda scary? Yeah. But it's a hell of a lot different from "OH MY GOD THEY'VE TAKEN OVER THE CONTINENT IT'S SHARIA LAW!!!!11", which is what Ethel was squealing about.

[Senkaku]

"winning" doesn't fucking mean anything lmao, but if it did I'm pretty comfortable saying "we" (whoever the fuck "we" are) are winning prrrrretty handily (see: Mosul getting the shit bombed out of it)


Any fear that ISIS or their ilk are going to somehow overrun Europe or America are unfounded and ridiculous paranoid fantasies out of an Infowars-induced fever dream.

And another jihadist group will simply spring up.

Probably. Again, I don't see any of them even trying to invade Turkey or Iran, much less push for Tours 2: Electric Boogaloo.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

Yeah, so ain't got nothing to back this up save a mutual care and respect for a lotta yas so ... here we go.

Be decent to one another, darlin's. Hate seeing peeps at one another's throats over other's actions, neh? Disagree all we like - that's part and parcel of life and all. But please, for the love of whatever you hold dear, or don't, be civil...ish, even? Moderately tolerant? Stick to the sideyes and not the sidearms of your rapier wits? Per favore? Maybe a little?

[Neo Balka]

Considering that they dont need heavy equipment to sneak into turkey and fucking get into Europe, i wonder how Paris got its shit shot up....

Is occasionally blowing some people up kinda scary? Yeah. But it's a hell of a lot different from "OH MY GOD THEY'VE TAKEN OVER THE CONTINENT IT'S SHARIA LAW!!!!11", which is what Ethel was squealing about.

Paris, Brussels and some other incidents in Western Europe seem to indicate that theres a bit of a problem with your security.

im fucking amazed that a bombing in Warsaw or Bosnia hasnt happened yet.

[Ifreann]

Stop being wrong and we won't.

Sweetie, I am not the one in the wrong here.

You most assuredly are. Britain is currently a member of the EU and the ECHR. Britons have recourse outside of Britain if their rights, as guaranteed by those bodies, are violated. They can take the government to court. If old white men in Britain try to ban homosexuality, European courts can stop them. So when you said that if old white folks wanted Vassenor's rights rolled back then it would have happened, you were wrong.

Show me a source that shows the majority of whiteeth male Britons over 40, want to take rights away from the gay community.

Are you under the impression that laws need to be popular among white males over 40 in order to be passed? They do not.

[Vassenor]

Food for thought.

[PaNTuXIa]

Food for thought.

I'm guessing the point you're trying to make here is that even though the shooter was Muslim, the fact that he committed a terrorist attack had nothing to do with his religion.