If you really want to end Poverty, Focus on Labor Unions

[Gig em Aggies]

Your pitiful attempts at flaming have no effect on me. They serve to amuse me, but just barely. I have seen far, FAR, better.

here's the deal... I'm a police officer.
If I see you with a pitbull, I'll shoot it.
And then I will shoot you if you have ONE objection to it.

Officer of the year award look everyone it's officer I know it allwho also goes by Officer I don't give a shit. First off if you are an actual officer your a disgrace because no officer I know will shoot and kill a pit bull just because someone owns nor will they shoot the owner for objecting to the shooting plus you would be and should be taken off the force for thinking like that plus no judge or jury would side with you if you actually did that. You sir are on your way for a Darwin Award.

[Getthephuckoveritland]

I don't care where you live, but there are some rather emasculated places in the states with unfounded fears similar to Europe.


Oh, and I will shoot anything one two legs or four that attacks a child.

Texas, no wonder, I should have known... redneck hillbilly trailer park shit state
lol

Good job on the personal attacks.

You've really put together a really convincing argument lol

How about you accept the fact that people have their own opinions? Can you do that? Are you capable of that?

Arguing with you is like trying to reason with a child about bedtime.


Anyway, back to the topic.....like I said, it's about personal responsibility. It doesn't matter how much people are paid, they'll always find a way to live beyond their means.

[The Forsworn Knights]

@OP You might want to calm down, you have basically just flamed and death-threated yourself into a corner on what could have been a debate.

[Big Jim P]

Yes. Being responded to in a reasonable tone must be frustrating as hell to them though.

fair enough lol

Subtlety, young one. It is a trait of the old and wise.

[Community Values]

How are hookers and joints bad? It's just a different way of living. And labradors can kill too. Making yourself dinner doesn't cost too much, and what's wrong with eating McDonalds? Rich people still go to bars, many don't go to the gym, and many are still alcoholics.

Honestly, it seems that you just don't like the different choices that people make.

[Big Jim P]

How are hookers and joints bad? It's just a different way of living. And labradors can kill too. Making yourself dinner doesn't cost too much, and what's wrong with eating McDonalds? Rich people still go to bars, many don't go to the gym, and many are still alcoholics.

Honestly, it seems that you just don't like the different choices that people make.

Apparently all it takes to be happy is a butt-ton of money.

[Kernen]

How are hookers and joints bad? It's just a different way of living. And labradors can kill too. Making yourself dinner doesn't cost too much, and what's wrong with eating McDonalds? Rich people still go to bars, many don't go to the gym, and many are still alcoholics.

Honestly, it seems that you just don't like the different choices that people make.

I, for one, will drink at cheap bars no matter how much I make. Thank Odin for dive bars.

[Gig em Aggies]

Texas, no wonder, I should have known... redneck hillbilly trailer park shit state
lol

Seems to be a better place than the one you are leading us to believe YOU live in.

Big Jim did he just say what I think he said. From another fellow Texan.

[Big Jim P]

Seems to be a better place than the one you are leading us to believe YOU live in.

Big Jim did he just say what I think he said. From another fellow Texan.

He certainly has a bad case of small-dog syndrome.

[Industrialaska]

Well, this. The OP is not the kind of person I'd like to have on my side in this debate, which is why again I'd like to ask all the crazy dog people to stop shouting about dogs and return to topic. Or make your own thread. But this is not a dog discussion thread nor a "I'll shoot you" thread or a "you suck" thread.

Why cant he just shut the fuck up and accept the facts about pitbulls ?

Because there are 3 to 5 million pitbulls in the US, and with that many it is impossible to make generalizations about the behavior of the breed.

Also, "facts" could be argued.

[The Grene Knyght]

How are hookers and joints bad? It's just a different way of living. And labradors can kill too. Making yourself dinner doesn't cost too much, and what's wrong with eating McDonalds? Rich people still go to bars, many don't go to the gym, and many are still alcoholics.

Honestly, it seems that you just don't like the different choices that people make.

well OP believes there are people who are "ignorantly addicted" to the "culture of poverty," so anything they say about how the world works should be taken with a grain of salt

[Genivaria]

I've said before that if we lived in a society where Unions were empowered and protected then we wouldn't need Federally mandated labor regulations as they could be negotiated in house.

[Big Jim P]

I've said before that if we lived in a society where Unions were empowered and protected then we wouldn't need Federally mandated labor regulations as they could be negotiated in house.

The problem with unions is forcing people to join if they wish to work.

[Industrialaska]

I've said before that if we lived in a society where Unions were empowered and protected then we wouldn't need Federally mandated labor regulations as they could be negotiated in house.

Public sector unions are pretty powerful. It's not exactly like the government is against organized labor.
In the private sector, even if you are in a union, you have to negotiate with your employer, and if there were no labor laws, would you want better pay or safe working conditions? With labor laws you don't have to make that choice.

[Big Jim P]

I've said before that if we lived in a society where Unions were empowered and protected then we wouldn't need Federally mandated labor regulations as they could be negotiated in house.

Public sector unions are pretty powerful. It's not exactly like the government is against organized labor.
In the private sector, even if you are in a union, you have to negotiate with your employer, and if there were no labor laws, would you want better pay or safe working conditions? With labor laws you don't have to make that choice.

This is one area I don't mind some regulations. In fact, I would prefer them to unions.

[The Forsworn Knights]

If Unions become the businesses we would need Unions for the Unions.

[Gilandd]

This is how poverty hurts society.

The poor are every bit as human as anybody is, and they have a desire for entertainment and companionship and friendship too.

Here's the cost differences.

A Friendly Labrador - $1,800 for a Puppy.
A Dangerous Pit bull - Between FREE and $300 for a Puppy.

A Safe Gym - $500 for Membership per year.
A Dangerous Bar - $2 per beer, drunk after a 6 pack.

A Safe trip to a Ballgame with professional security guards and police presence- $ 150 for a ticket.
A Dangerous strip club with the biggest loser they can find for security- $30

A Wife - Thousands of dollars worth of Food, Utilities, Transportation, Support, Supplies and Gifts.
A Hooker - $ 50

A Safe Concert - $200
An Unsafe party in an abandoned building - Free

The Olive Garden - $50
The Outback Steakhouse - $50
Applebee's - $50

Mc Donalds - $10
An Unsafe "Sports Bar" - $20

Summer Camp - $3,000
The Bowling Alley - $30

6 Flags theme park - $400 total
A joint - $5


That's how Poverty hurts society.

So why don't the politicians focus more on Labor unions that have people paid more, and enforcing the laws against discrimination so that people can get jobs..
Instead of more taxes that cuts jobs and makes people even more poor ?

labor unions are communist bullshit

[The Blaatschapen]

Given that the OP is DEAT and many of the posts on the last page have quite derailed, I lock.

The Blaatschapen - NationStates Moderator