If you really want to end Poverty, Focus on Labor Unions

[The United Republic of New Britannia]

I have facts against pitbulls.
You have your culture of poverty that has you living in danger that you're ignorantly addicted to.

"You are poor therefore I am smarter than you"

He's the one getting chewed up by a pitbull.
we're not.
I'd say we're correct.

and like I said.

I stated my source.
http://www.dogsbite.org/

That is the facts.
If he don't like the facts, that's his problem.

[Big Jim P]

If you can't come up with a counter argument but still don't want to concede the point, thats your own problem. You're free to just say so. I don't know what you have against pitbulls, but lets get back to the actual topic. I made a post concerning it up there somewhere if you're looking for something on topic to engage with.

You asked for my source and I gave it to you.
If you don't like it, that's your problem.
fuck you.

Whether or not anyone likes it, your source is weak. Unsurprising, really.

[The Grene Knyght]

If you can't come up with a counter argument but still don't want to concede the point, thats your own problem. You're free to just say so. I don't know what you have against pitbulls, but lets get back to the actual topic. I made a post concerning it up there somewhere if you're looking for something on topic to engage with.

I have facts against pitbulls.
You have your culture of poverty that has you living in danger that you're ignorantly addicted to.

I asked you for facts and you gave me a poorly constructed straw man followed by the words "so guess what, fuck you"
if you have genuine, unbiased facts, please present them. Or, alternatively, construct an argument as to why the so-called facts you've presented are indeed scientific and unbiased, since I've argued that thay're unscientific and you haven't countered the claim.
Also, "You have your culture of poverty that has you living in danger that you're ignorantly addicted to"
really? Another non-sequitur, poorly constructed straw man? FOr someone who OP'd a thread concerning tackling poverty, you seem to have an bizarrely ingrained hatred for the poor people of this world that you claim to wish to help.

[The United Republic of New Britannia]

You asked for my source and I gave it to you.
If you don't like it, that's your problem.
fuck you.

Whether or not anyone likes it, your source is weak. Unsurprising, really.

My source isn't weak, it is the authority on dog attacks.
shut the fuck up dickhead.

[Big Jim P]

"You are poor therefore I am smarter than you"

He's the one getting chewed up by a pitbull.
we're not.
I'd say we're correct.

and like I said.

I stated my source.
http://www.dogsbite.org/

That is the facts.
If he don't like the facts, that's his problem.

I've been around pit bulls quite a bit. Never been bitten. Of course, I'm not dumb enough to mess with fight-trained ones.

[Getthephuckoveritland]

^^^^
All this nonsense above me....smfh

What's the correlation between pitbulls and poverty?

Besides, plenty of poor people will drop a lot of coins for some fifi dog. It's about image, regardless of how poor they are.

[The United Republic of New Britannia]

I have facts against pitbulls.
You have your culture of poverty that has you living in danger that you're ignorantly addicted to.

I asked you for facts and you gave me a poorly constructed straw man followed by the words "so guess what, fuck you"
if you have genuine, unbiased facts, please present them. Or, alternatively, construct an argument as to why the so-called facts you've presented are indeed scientific and unbiased, since I've argued that thay're unscientific and you haven't countered the claim.
Also, "You have your culture of poverty that has you living in danger that you're ignorantly addicted to"
really? Another non-sequitur, poorly constructed straw man? FOr someone who OP'd a thread concerning tackling poverty, you seem to have an bizarrely ingrained hatred for the poor people of this world that you claim to wish to help.

I gave you the unbiased facts.
You need to grow the fuck up, or have the state force you to.
I don't give a fuck either way it has to be.

[The United Republic of New Britannia]

^^^^
All this nonsense above me....smfh

What's the correlation between pitbulls and poverty?

Besides, plenty of poor people will drop a lot of coins for some fifi dog. It's about image, regardless of how poor they are.

The correlation is that pitbulls are cheap and affordable to somebody making $12 an hour.

[Big Jim P]

Whether or not anyone likes it, your source is weak. Unsurprising, really.

My source isn't weak, it is the authority on dog attacks.
shut the fuck up dickhead.

Your pitiful attempts at flaming have no effect on me. They serve to amuse me, but just barely. I have seen far, FAR, better.

[The United Republic of New Britannia]

He's the one getting chewed up by a pitbull.
we're not.
I'd say we're correct.

and like I said.

I stated my source.
http://www.dogsbite.org/

That is the facts.
If he don't like the facts, that's his problem.

I've been around pit bulls quite a bit. Never been bitten. Of course, I'm not dumb enough to mess with fight-trained ones.

There is no difference between any and all pitbulls, one is the same as the other.
Its in their genetics.

[The United Republic of New Britannia]

My source isn't weak, it is the authority on dog attacks.
shut the fuck up dickhead.

Your pitiful attempts at flaming have no effect on me. They serve to amuse me, but just barely. I have seen far, FAR, better.

here's the deal... I'm a police officer.
If I see you with a pitbull, I'll shoot it.
And then I will shoot you if you have ONE objection to it.

[Savojarna]

For fucks sake can we stop the irrelevant and OT argument about pitbulls already??? Makes it really annoying to follow the thread. Also, it doesn't change anything about the argument that, you know, unions and higher wages fight poverty very well.

[Kernen]

Your pitiful attempts at flaming have no effect on me. They serve to amuse me, but just barely. I have seen far, FAR, better.

here's the deal... I'm a police officer.
If I see you with a pitbull, I'll shoot it.
And then I will shoot you if you have ONE objection to it.

That makes you a lot more dangerous than the dog.

[The Grene Knyght]

"You are poor therefore I am smarter than you"

He's the one getting chewed up by a pitbull.
we're not.
I'd say we're correct.

Where did I state that I've ever been bitten by a pitbull?

I asked you for facts and you gave me a poorly constructed straw man followed by the words "so guess what, fuck you"
if you have genuine, unbiased facts, please present them. Or, alternatively, construct an argument as to why the so-called facts you've presented are indeed scientific and unbiased, since I've argued that thay're unscientific and you haven't countered the claim.
Also, "You have your culture of poverty that has you living in danger that you're ignorantly addicted to"
really? Another non-sequitur, poorly constructed straw man? FOr someone who OP'd a thread concerning tackling poverty, you seem to have an bizarrely ingrained hatred for the poor people of this world that you claim to wish to help.

I gave you the unbiased facts.

Can you make an argument supporting that?

[Getthephuckoveritland]

^^^^
All this nonsense above me....smfh

What's the correlation between pitbulls and poverty?

Besides, plenty of poor people will drop a lot of coins for some fifi dog. It's about image, regardless of how poor they are.

The correlation is that pitbulls are cheap and affordable to somebody making $12 an hour.

Lmfao

Dude, eat a snickers.

People making $12 won't waste their money on a dog, and even if they did, it wouldn't be a pitbull, unless they're ghetto af. They're more likely to blow $300 on a pair of Jordans, than buying groceries, let alone food for the dog.

[The United Republic of New Britannia]

He's the one getting chewed up by a pitbull.
we're not.
I'd say we're correct.

Where did I state that I've ever been bitten by a pitbull?

I gave you the unbiased facts.

Can you make an argument supporting that?

since when was I arguing with you, as opposed to telling you how things are, and if you don't like the facts, fuck you ?
lol

[The Grene Knyght]

Your pitiful attempts at flaming have no effect on me. They serve to amuse me, but just barely. I have seen far, FAR, better.

here's the deal... I'm a police officer.
If I see you with a pitbull, I'll shoot it.
And then I will shoot you if you have ONE objection to it.

Look, I don't want to start a flamewar here, so please don't be offended when I say I find that extremely hard to believe.

[Big Jim P]

Your pitiful attempts at flaming have no effect on me. They serve to amuse me, but just barely. I have seen far, FAR, better.

here's the deal... I'm a police officer.
If I see you with a pitbull, I'll shoot it.
And then I will shoot you if you have ONE objection to it.

Oh, I doubt you are an officer, and almost certain you are not an American (let alone Texan) officer. Shoot my dog, I sue your ass off.

[Savojarna]

here's the deal... I'm a police officer.
If I see you with a pitbull, I'll shoot it.
And then I will shoot you if you have ONE objection to it.

That makes you a lot more dangerous than the dog.

Well, this. The OP is not the kind of person I'd like to have on my side in this debate, which is why again I'd like to ask all the crazy dog people to stop shouting about dogs and return to topic. Or make your own thread. But this is not a dog discussion thread nor a "I'll shoot you" thread or a "you suck" thread.

[Big Jim P]

here's the deal... I'm a police officer.
If I see you with a pitbull, I'll shoot it.
And then I will shoot you if you have ONE objection to it.

Look, I don't want to start a flamewar here, so please don't be offended when I say I find that extremely hard to believe.

I think whats-its-name is the one trying to start a flame war, not you.

[The United Republic of New Britannia]

here's the deal... I'm a police officer.
If I see you with a pitbull, I'll shoot it.
And then I will shoot you if you have ONE objection to it.

Oh, I doubt you are an officer, and almost certain you are not an American (let alone Texan) officer. Shoot my dog, I sue your ass off.

You wont sue me, because I have the right to shoot dangerous breed dogs at will, and I run the streets, you just live here.

[The Grene Knyght]

Where did I state that I've ever been bitten by a pitbull?

Can you make an argument supporting that?

since when was I arguing with you, as opposed to telling you how things are, and if you don't like the facts, fuck you ?
lol

If you don't want to have a discussion, you're in the wrong forum.
I agree with what was said above about getting back to the actual topic. You're clearly not going to be convinced, and you can't support your own statements, so the whole conversation is unnecessary.

[Kernen]

here's the deal... I'm a police officer.
If I see you with a pitbull, I'll shoot it.
And then I will shoot you if you have ONE objection to it.

Oh, I doubt you are an officer, and almost certain you are not an American (let alone Texan) officer. Shoot my dog, I sue your ass off.

Trespass to property, civil assault with a lethal weapon, misuse of government property, unlawful discharge of a firearm...you've got civil and criminal penalties abound. That officer would be bounced in a heartbeat.

[Kernen]

Oh, I doubt you are an officer, and almost certain you are not an American (let alone Texan) officer. Shoot my dog, I sue your ass off.

You wont sue me, because I have the right to shoot dangerous breed dogs at will, and I run the streets, you just live here.

No, actually. You don't. That's both a crime and a civil tort.

[Industrialaska]

This is how poverty hurts society.

The poor are every bit as human as anybody is, and they have a desire for entertainment and companionship and friendship too.

Here's the cost differences.

A Friendly Labrador - $1,800 for a Puppy.
A Dangerous Pit bull - Between FREE and $300 for a Puppy.

A Safe Gym - $500 for Membership per year.
A Dangerous Bar - $2 per beer, drunk after a 6 pack.

A Safe trip to a Ballgame with professional security guards and police presence- $ 150 for a ticket.
A Dangerous strip club with the biggest loser they can find for security- $30

A Wife - Thousands of dollars worth of Food, Utilities, Transportation, Support, Supplies and Gifts.
A Hooker - $ 50

A Safe Concert - $200
An Unsafe party in an abandoned building - Free

The Olive Garden - $50
The Outback Steakhouse - $50
Applebee's - $50

Mc Donalds - $10
An Unsafe "Sports Bar" - $20

Summer Camp - $3,000
The Bowling Alley - $30

6 Flags theme park - $400 total
A joint - $5


That's how Poverty hurts society.

So why don't the politicians focus more on Labor unions that have people paid more, and enforcing the laws against discrimination so that people can get jobs..
Instead of more taxes that cuts jobs and makes people even more poor ?

What does this have to do with unions?
If you want nice things, it costs money.