Anti Americanism crackdown

[Lady Scylla]

I just chilled the fuck out and put on my thinking cap.

There is no free speech in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK or France.
Their Government in fact bans racism, and people are doing 6 months or more for it, in those countries.

This is what I would do if I were the President.

People in the USA, who experience Anti Americanism online, should print out what is said to them, and mail it to me.

I understand that not every comment online can be accounted for....
BUT this is what is going to happen under my plan.
​People send me Anti American things that are said to them.
And 1,000 of the worst (RECORDED) will be selected by me to charge other countries with (once per year).
 
 
This is what the following countries OWE the IRS (Internal Revenue Service).
 
United Kingdom :  6 Billion Pound Sterling PER 1,000 Anti American comments online.
France : 6 Billion Euros PER 1,000 Anti American comments online
Canada : 3 Billion Canadian Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
Australia : 3 Billion Australian Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
New Zealand : 1 Billion, 500 Million New Zealand Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
 
They owe it as part of their UN Dues.
 
These Charges are in effect UNTIL Their Governments make a decision.
Either (A) They are our friends, and their Governments crack down on Anti Americanism, or (B)They are NOT our friends Anymore,  BUT Option B comes with a total and complete Embargo.
Failure to pay is AUTOMATICALLY Option B.

That would get their Government to crack down on Anti American racism, on the basis of National Origin.



What do you think of my plan ?

This would make you arguably worse than the countries you're trying to combat against. This is Turkey level of extortion.

[Aelex]

"Anti-Americanism is a problem therefore we need to try to sue countries for what shit people said online and on T.V and embargo countries if they refuse to pay us ludicrous amount of money for it, that will surely crack-down on anti-americanism and not do the very contrary!"

[The Islands of Versilia]

I just chilled the fuck out and put on my thinking cap.

There is no free speech in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK or France.
Their Government in fact bans racism, and people are doing 6 months or more for it, in those countries.

This is what I would do if I were the President.

People in the USA, who experience Anti Americanism online, should print out what is said to them, and mail it to me.

I understand that not every comment online can be accounted for....
BUT this is what is going to happen under my plan.
​People send me Anti American things that are said to them.
And 1,000 of the worst (RECORDED) will be selected by me to charge other countries with (once per year).
 
 
This is what the following countries OWE the IRS (Internal Revenue Service).
 
United Kingdom :  6 Billion Pound Sterling PER 1,000 Anti American comments online.
France : 6 Billion Euros PER 1,000 Anti American comments online
Canada : 3 Billion Canadian Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
Australia : 3 Billion Australian Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
New Zealand : 1 Billion, 500 Million New Zealand Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
 
They owe it as part of their UN Dues.
 
These Charges are in effect UNTIL Their Governments make a decision.
Either (A) They are our friends, and their Governments crack down on Anti Americanism, or (B)They are NOT our friends Anymore,  BUT Option B comes with a total and complete Embargo.
Failure to pay is AUTOMATICALLY Option B.

That would get their Government to crack down on Anti American racism, on the basis of National Origin.



What do you think of my plan ?

This would make you arguably worse than the countries you're trying to combat against. This is Turkey level of extortion.

They just went full Turkey.

Never go full Turkey.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

I just chilled the fuck heck out and put on my thinking cap.

There is no free speech in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK or France.
Their Government in fact bans racism, and people are doing 6 months or more for it, in those countries.

This is what I would do if I were the President.

People in the USA, who experience Anti Americanism online, should print out what is said to them, and mail it to me.

I understand that not every comment online can be accounted for....
BUT this is what is going to happen under my plan.
​People send me Anti American things that are said to them.
And 1,000 of the worst (RECORDED) will be selected by me to charge other countries with (once per year).
 
 
This is what the following countries OWE the IRS (Internal Revenue Service).
 
United Kingdom :  6 Billion Pound Sterling PER 1,000 Anti American comments online.
France : 6 Billion Euros PER 1,000 Anti American comments online
Canada : 3 Billion Canadian Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
Australia : 3 Billion Australian Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
New Zealand : 1 Billion, 500 Million New Zealand Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
 
They owe it as part of their UN Dues.
 
These Charges are in effect UNTIL Their Governments make a decision.
Either (A) They are our friends, and their Governments crack down on Anti Americanism, or (B)They are NOT our friends Anymore,  BUT Option B comes with a total and complete Embargo.
Failure to pay is AUTOMATICALLY Option B.

That would get their Government to crack down on Anti American racism, on the basis of National Origin.



What do you think of my plan ?

To put it bluntly: this plan is not only a massive violation of both ethics and international law, but quite frankly, it wouldn't work.

[Thermodolia]

I just chilled the fuck out and put on my thinking cap.

There is no free speech in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK or France.
Their Government in fact bans racism, and people are doing 6 months or more for it, in those countries.

This is what I would do if I were the President.

People in the USA, who experience Anti Americanism online, should print out what is said to them, and mail it to me.

I understand that not every comment online can be accounted for....
BUT this is what is going to happen under my plan.
​People send me Anti American things that are said to them.
And 1,000 of the worst (RECORDED) will be selected by me to charge other countries with (once per year).
 
 
This is what the following countries OWE the IRS (Internal Revenue Service).
 
United Kingdom :  6 Billion Pound Sterling PER 1,000 Anti American comments online.
France : 6 Billion Euros PER 1,000 Anti American comments online
Canada : 3 Billion Canadian Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
Australia : 3 Billion Australian Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
New Zealand : 1 Billion, 500 Million New Zealand Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
 
They owe it as part of their UN Dues.
 
These Charges are in effect UNTIL Their Governments make a decision.
Either (A) They are our friends, and their Governments crack down on Anti Americanism, or (B)They are NOT our friends Anymore,  BUT Option B comes with a total and complete Embargo.
Failure to pay is AUTOMATICALLY Option B.

That would get their Government to crack down on Anti American racism, on the basis of National Origin.



What do you think of my plan ?

This is fucking stupid. France would just do what they did with NATO, tell the Americans to fuck off.

Also a few things:
1. Those places you mentioned do have the freedom of speech, it's just that they have more limits than us. Though I've never heard of the incident you describe as actually happening.

2. Being anti-American is not racism as American is not a race.

3. We don't run the UN

4. And your embargo plan would kill our economy and leave us with no allies as no fucking nation is going to pay you anything.

[The Palmetto]

"People have opinions that offend me so I want to fine them for it."

[Greece1917]

Well... Fuck America

[The Palmetto]

Well... Fuck America

I want my money.





(Kidding)

[Thermodolia]

Pretty sure all of those countries are classified as freer than the United States.

New Zealand is really the only one. If we brought Switzerland or The Netherlands, into the discussion I'd change my opinion. Australia is too restrictive towards gamers, Canada is admittedly restrictive to some forms of free speech, UK is too restrictive of porn, and France... I don't know enough about France to say anything.

In France you go to jail for burning the National flag not so much in the USA

[Thermodolia]

New Zealand is really the only one. If we brought Switzerland or The Netherlands, into the discussion I'd change my opinion. Australia is too restrictive towards gamers, Canada is admittedly restrictive to some forms of free speech, UK is too restrictive of porn, and France... I don't know enough about France to say anything.

all numbers from this website:
http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

New Zealand: 3
Australia: 5
Canada: 7
UK: 12

USA: 17

All countries that were listed, aside from france, are higher rated than the USA

That's economic freedom though

[Thermodolia]

I didn't realize I live in a dictatorship. I thought electing our Prime Minister every three years was democratic?

The election is democratic DEPENDING on your voting system, NOT his or her Authority.

If that's the case America is the least democratic. NZ is way more democratic

[Socialist Tera]

Fine with us, we will just go and side with China and Russia instead, also you should take your bases out of Australia while you are at it.

[Bakery Hill]

Fine with us, we will just go and side with China and Russia instead, also you should take your bases out of Australia while you are at it.

or we could just not be someone's client state

[Outer Sparta]

Are you trying to mandate that America have dictatorial powers over our allies by cracking down on anti-Americanism?

What's next, deporting people who don't show patriotism by standing up for national anthems or the pledge?

[Ethel mermania]

@ op,

You are aware your enforcement mechanism would kill all international trade to the US.

[Chestaan]

Awwwwh we're sorry op, did we offend you? Maybe you could make some sort of safe space for yourselves so your oh so delicate feelings don't get hurt?

[Soyouso]

*snort* If those countries have a problem with us Americans being offensive, then those people can fuck right off. And the people from my country who think other countries should have to pay for fucking INTERNET TROLLS, also need to stop being so immature.
That entire concept is insane.
I mean, this is what people are angry about now? There are people starving to death, terrorists raping and killing people over religion, and actual hate crimes, yet people ignore those in favor of not triggering people who can't handle their opinion being challenged? Shows just how petty and childish our societies have become. Thank God Trump is president so our country doesn't become the next safe space. I'd rather my nation not have a democracy, but at the very least our president isn't going to try to make offending people a crime.
These nations don't realize they are essentially doing the same thing as fascism in regards to spech rights, which they say they oppose. They silence anyone who disagrees with their belief. Fascism at some point does that too. The difference is people who are fascist, like me, admit that some sort of freedom of speech would be lost, a a side effect. But these nations on the other hand, lie about it. And that is disgusting. Like wow, be honest.
No nation should ever have to apologize on the behalf of INTERNET TROLLS. This is politics, not Tumblr.

[Sarigen]

I just chilled the fuck out and put on my thinking cap.

There is no free speech in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK or France.
Their Government in fact bans racism, and people are doing 6 months or more for it, in those countries.

This is what I would do if I were the President.

People in the USA, who experience Anti Americanism online, should print out what is said to them, and mail it to me.

I understand that not every comment online can be accounted for....
BUT this is what is going to happen under my plan.
​People send me Anti American things that are said to them.
And 1,000 of the worst (RECORDED) will be selected by me to charge other countries with (once per year).
 
 
This is what the following countries OWE the IRS (Internal Revenue Service).
 
United Kingdom :  6 Billion Pound Sterling PER 1,000 Anti American comments online.
France : 6 Billion Euros PER 1,000 Anti American comments online
Canada : 3 Billion Canadian Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
Australia : 3 Billion Australian Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
New Zealand : 1 Billion, 500 Million New Zealand Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
 
They owe it as part of their UN Dues.
 
These Charges are in effect UNTIL Their Governments make a decision.
Either (A) They are our friends, and their Governments crack down on Anti Americanism, or (B)They are NOT our friends Anymore,  BUT Option B comes with a total and complete Embargo.
Failure to pay is AUTOMATICALLY Option B.

That would get their Government to crack down on Anti American racism, on the basis of National Origin.



What do you think of my plan ?

Hi,

Freedom of expression in Canada is guaranteed by section 2(b) of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms:

2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: ... (b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication

It just so happens that we have a limitations clause (the USA also, has one, it's less useful than ours). Section 1 of the Charter, the so-called limitations clause, establishes that the guarantee of freedom of expression and other rights under the Charter are not absolute and can be limited under certain situations:

The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society. (emphasis added)

This means if your speech is incompatible with a free and democratic society, it is not allowed.

What does this mean?

The advocating of genocide is illegal. Under section 319, it is illegal to publicly incite hatred against people based on their colour, race, religion, ethnic origin, and sexual orientation, except where the statements made are true or are made in good faith.

This is why operations such as the Westoro Baptist church, the KKK, stormfront are not allowed in Canada. It's a reasonable limitation, and our country is better, less extreme, and safer for it. You're also still free to be a disgusting racist, but you can't try to organize harm, genocide, etc. to different groups. It's truly the best compromise available.

Also racism against America, or specifically the United States as Canada is part of America also, isn't the phrase you're looking for. Perhaps xenophobia? The United States consists of a variety of races, much to the dismay of organizations like the KKK, Westoro Baptist Church, and Stormfront, who are totally free to advocate getting rid of many of those races.

Also your proposal would never work. You owe us something like 55 billion dollars in treasury bonds, and the amount owed by the US is growing. Also we have a strong law called FATCA, which in practice means that we do not allow the IRS to come after Canadian citizens. Also what would you even do with that money? Take care of your sick? Lol, please.

[Vassenor]

*snort* If those countries have a problem with us Americans being offensive, then those people can fuck right off. And the people from my country who think other countries should have to pay for fucking INTERNET TROLLS, also need to stop being so immature.
That entire concept is insane.
I mean, this is what people are angry about now? There are people starving to death, terrorists raping and killing people over religion, and actual hate crimes, yet people ignore those in favor of not triggering people who can't handle their opinion being challenged? Shows just how petty and childish our societies have become. Thank God Trump is president so our country doesn't become the next safe space. I'd rather my nation not have a democracy, but at the very least our president isn't going to try to make offending people a crime.
These nations don't realize they are essentially doing the same thing as fascism in regards to spech rights, which they say they oppose. They silence anyone who disagrees with their belief. Fascism at some point does that too. The difference is people who are fascist, like me, admit that some sort of freedom of speech would be lost, a a side effect. But these nations on the other hand, lie about it. And that is disgusting. Like wow, be honest.
No nation should ever have to apologize on the behalf of INTERNET TROLLS. This is politics, not Tumblr.

Ignoring all the times Trump has called for safe spaces just so he doesn't have to hear people criticising him.

[Maxwelltopia]

As an American I still think America is great but this is the most unintelligent idea ever. If we believe in freedom of speech, we should let others hate us however much they want.

[Maxwelltopia]

*snort* If those countries have a problem with us Americans being offensive, then those people can fuck right off. And the people from my country who think other countries should have to pay for fucking INTERNET TROLLS, also need to stop being so immature.
That entire concept is insane.
I mean, this is what people are angry about now? There are people starving to death, terrorists raping and killing people over religion, and actual hate crimes, yet people ignore those in favor of not triggering people who can't handle their opinion being challenged? Shows just how petty and childish our societies have become. Thank God Trump is president so our country doesn't become the next safe space. I'd rather my nation not have a democracy, but at the very least our president isn't going to try to make offending people a crime.
These nations don't realize they are essentially doing the same thing as fascism in regards to spech rights, which they say they oppose. They silence anyone who disagrees with their belief. Fascism at some point does that too. The difference is people who are fascist, like me, admit that some sort of freedom of speech would be lost, a a side effect. But these nations on the other hand, lie about it. And that is disgusting. Like wow, be honest.
No nation should ever have to apologize on the behalf of INTERNET TROLLS. This is politics, not Tumblr.

Ignoring all the times Trump has called for safe spaces just so he doesn't have to hear people criticising him.

"CNN is so biased and hateful" Media bias is nothing new. Just just take a look at your dear friends Breitbart and Info Wars

[Rhodevus]

all numbers from this website:
http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

New Zealand: 3
Australia: 5
Canada: 7
UK: 12

USA: 17

All countries that were listed, aside from france, are higher rated than the USA

That's economic freedom though

http://www.prosperity.com/rankings

then look at personal freedom and all the different types of freedoms by the Legatum Institute.

For personal freedom:
Canada 2
New Zealand 3
France 22
UK 15

US 26

[Aelex]

In France you go to jail for burning the National flag not so much in the USA

Or disrespecting the anthem or any other of the national symbols. I'm not sure we actually jailed people over that but we did fined them.

[Soyouso]

Ignoring all the times Trump has called for safe spaces just so he doesn't have to hear people criticising him.

Actually he's just sick of the news being so biased against him, essentially it's become propaganda. He would probably be fine with it if they didn't avoid talking about certain facts just because they hate him. News networks should be neutral when reporting. Let the people there themselves have their thoughts and debates, yes. That's their right. But they should at least post the story as it is without bias, whether it be biased in favor of the left or the right.

[Sediczja]

This would cause more damage to America than every single anti-American comment ever made.

It's a great idea.