Anti Americanism crackdown

[The United Republic of New Britannia]

I just chilled the fuck out and put on my thinking cap.

There is no free speech in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK or France.
Their Government in fact bans racism, and people are doing 6 months or more for it, in those countries.

This is what I would do if I were the President.

People in the USA, who experience Anti Americanism online, should print out what is said to them, and mail it to me.

I understand that not every comment online can be accounted for....
BUT this is what is going to happen under my plan.
​People send me Anti American things that are said to them.
And 1,000 of the worst (RECORDED) will be selected by me to charge other countries with (once per year).
 
 
This is what the following countries OWE the IRS (Internal Revenue Service).
 
United Kingdom :  6 Billion Pound Sterling PER 1,000 Anti American comments online.
France : 6 Billion Euros PER 1,000 Anti American comments online
Canada : 3 Billion Canadian Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
Australia : 3 Billion Australian Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
New Zealand : 1 Billion, 500 Million New Zealand Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
 
They owe it as part of their UN Dues.
 
These Charges are in effect UNTIL Their Governments make a decision.
Either (A) They are our friends, and their Governments crack down on Anti Americanism, or (B)They are NOT our friends Anymore,  BUT Option B comes with a total and complete Embargo.
Failure to pay is AUTOMATICALLY Option B.

That would get their Government to crack down on Anti American racism, on the basis of National Origin.



What do you think of my plan ?

[The Liberated Territories]

I would jack up the prices for French commenters but otherwise looks good.

[The United Republic of New Britannia]

I would jack up the prices for French commenters but otherwise looks good.

Thanks

[Pherdistan]

It wouldn't work. You'd cause an international incident by claiming sovereignty over every country in the world (through the internet), and fining foreign governments for the acts of their citizens would be unenforceable, unless you want to break up NATO and decades of friendly alliances because some guy in Nowhereshire doesn't like McDonalds.

This, among many flaws in your plan. I suggest you beef up your OP and cite some sources for the abuse you claim, or folks will just laugh at you and this thread will be locked.

Best of luck!

[The United Republic of New Britannia]

It wouldn't work. You'd cause an international incident by claiming sovereignty over every country in the world (through the internet), and fining foreign governments for the acts of their citizens would be unenforceable, unless you want to break up NATO and decades of friendly alliances because some guy in Nowhereshire doesn't like McDonalds.

This, among many flaws in your plan. I suggest you beef up your OP and cite some sources for the abuse you claim, or folks will just laugh at you and this thread will be locked.

Best of luck!

Here are some examples, copied and pasted..

Tell us about the world of sport outside America, next time the winners of the NFL or the MLB are proclaimed as world champions.

So what exactly is your question? All you've done is rant about snake handling and, from your rant it is obvious you know absolutely nothing about snakes or how to handle them. Typical arrogant Yank!

And it gets worse

[The Liberated Territories]

Typical arrogant Yank!

$6,000,000 pls.

[The United Republic of New Britannia]

It wouldn't work. You'd cause an international incident by claiming sovereignty over every country in the world (through the internet), and fining foreign governments for the acts of their citizens would be unenforceable, unless you want to break up NATO and decades of friendly alliances because some guy in Nowhereshire doesn't like McDonalds.

This, among many flaws in your plan. I suggest you beef up your OP and cite some sources for the abuse you claim, or folks will just laugh at you and this thread will be locked.

Best of luck!

I also don't care whether they are my friends or not, and if that's how they treat us... I'd rather not have them as a friend so that they're morally eligible to be Aggressed upon by USA Military forces.

[Franco-Iberie]

Pardon my French but what the fuck is this shit?

[The United Republic of New Britannia]

Typical arrogant Yank!

$6,000,000 pls.

The UK owes it

[Franco-Iberie]

It wouldn't work. You'd cause an international incident by claiming sovereignty over every country in the world (through the internet), and fining foreign governments for the acts of their citizens would be unenforceable, unless you want to break up NATO and decades of friendly alliances because some guy in Nowhereshire doesn't like McDonalds.

This, among many flaws in your plan. I suggest you beef up your OP and cite some sources for the abuse you claim, or folks will just laugh at you and this thread will be locked.

Best of luck!

I also don't care whether they are my friends or not, and if that's how they treat us... I'd rather not have them as a friend so that they're morally eligible to be Aggressed upon by USA Military forces.

Eh, if that's how you wanna run a country then enjoy your new pariah state.

[Socialist Nordia]

First of all, who do you think you are, some sort of representative of the US government? You make it seem like you're talking about you personally collecting said comments.

Second of all, this is a terrible idea. You're planning on charging entire governments just because random citizens said something that hurt America's feelings on the internet. The US has no authority to mandate that foreign countries crack down on internet freedom.

[Free Republics]

I find the whole idea absurd because the United States of America stands for freedom of speech and regarding UN dues, America shouldn't be part of the United Nations anyway because it is an un-American organization with a "human rights" body controlled by the worst dictatorships on the planet and a "Universal Declaration of Human Rights" that actually says you have no rights, if you read the fine print (Article 29, Section 3 says "These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.").

If America is to take a stand regarding freedom of speech issues in other countries, America should encourage those nations to become free and decent nations by adopting freedom of speech. We should not be encouraging enforcement of any laws against "hate speech" or "racism" or "sexism" or "homophobia" or "blasphemy" or "mansplaining" or whatever kind of speech the unfree nations of the world choose to ban next. We should be condemning nations that enforce such "laws" and denying them access to our foreign aid unless they adopt freedom.

[The United Republic of New Britannia]

First of all, who do you think you are, some sort of representative of the US government? You make it seem like you're talking about you personally collecting said comments.

Second of all, this is a terrible idea. You're planning on charging entire governments just because random citizens said something that hurt America's feelings on the internet. The US has no authority to mandate that foreign countries crack down on internet freedom.

Yes we have authority to sanction Governments to make them enforce their own laws already existing... they don't have internet freedom either.

[The Grande Republic 0f Arcadia]

I just chilled the fuck out and put on my thinking cap.

There is no free speech in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK or France.
Their Government in fact bans racism, and people are doing 6 months or more for it, in those countries.

This is what I would do if I were the President.

People in the USA, who experience Anti Americanism online, should print out what is said to them, and mail it to me.

I understand that not every comment online can be accounted for....
BUT this is what is going to happen under my plan.
​People send me Anti American things that are said to them.
And 1,000 of the worst (RECORDED) will be selected by me to charge other countries with (once per year).
 
 
This is what the following countries OWE the IRS (Internal Revenue Service).
 
United Kingdom :  6 Billion Pound Sterling PER 1,000 Anti American comments online.
France : 6 Billion Euros PER 1,000 Anti American comments online
Canada : 3 Billion Canadian Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
Australia : 3 Billion Australian Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
New Zealand : 1 Billion, 500 Million New Zealand Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
 
They owe it as part of their UN Dues.
 
These Charges are in effect UNTIL Their Governments make a decision.
Either (A) They are our friends, and their Governments crack down on Anti Americanism, or (B)They are NOT our friends Anymore,  BUT Option B comes with a total and complete Embargo.
Failure to pay is AUTOMATICALLY Option B.

That would get their Government to crack down on Anti American racism, on the basis of National Origin.



What do you think of my plan ?

Ha ha ha ha ha......no , do you want to know why? We would alienate our allies , you would be infringing on foreign citizens rights, and as a absolute free speech advocate , let them say it, a crack down would only make them stronger if you disagree with them, your best bet is to argue your point, educate yourself and disassemble thier points like Ben Sharpio who mind fucks everyone he is on a debate with. And people in my school think I would make a bad president(because of my plan to dismantle China you can read the first draft here:

So lets say it starts tomorrow, and i run the US. First i would not go in guns blazing like many would do, i would wage a ghost war at first.

PHASE ONE: I would deploy Chinese-Americans agents into china to rise up the political ladder in the PLA and the CCP. A set of Agents will campaign for more freedom and civil rights and get in good with the people of china. Soon the agents would stage a assassination on those few agents ‘wanting more civil rights’ Soon after their deaths would be faked and those agents brought out of the country. Soon another set of Agents would hold protests and marches on china which will be suppressed by the CCP and the PLA. I would make them a symbol of a revolution. Soon the propoganda war would begin. And i almost forgot start pulling of US and allied companies out of CHina into the US to minimalize ecenomic losses

ESTIMATED TIME: 30–60 years

PHASE TWO: The US would create propaganda focused on how untrust worthy and evil the CCP is(Which will be the easy part since the CCP and the people have a strained relationship) Now creating distrust toward the PLA will be the hard part. Then I would stage a few leadership killings of the PLA and raids by the few rebels we will have. And it has been proven time and time again a more successful rebel group gets more support. So we will get decent support considering its china but not enough. We will only get enough support for the PLA to crack down on the people and their few rights. So once martial law is in place more propaganda will be pushed in. The rebel group will get the help from Twain, and Tibet, so there is some more support there. So what little Civil rights the Chinese will have will disappear and the rebel group would continue to fight.

ESTIMATED TIME: 3–5 years

PHASE THREE: Now US SOCOM will get involved. US Army Special Forces 5th group, US Navy SEALs, MARSOC, and AFSOC PJs will be deployed and sent to train the rebels and assassinate leadership. CAG(Delta force) would go after the President and senior staff in the CCP that hasnt been killed by rebels so that would leave alot. By now China would know the US is involved but not how involved we are. So they start attacking US forces in China. So the SEALs I would send in would sabotage PLA navy vessels, Army Special forces, and MARSOC would train the rebels and attack PLA leadership. AFSOC PJ’s would assist in any way with and SOCOM SOC. Army Special forces will aslo be assigned to disrupting communications and water lines. MARSOC would hit power plants and anything on the electrical grid. AFSOC CCT operators would mark Drop zones for US Army Airborne and other Airborne components of the US military. CIA and ISA will move to collect information on PLA and CCP tech, super weapons, and the like.

ESTIMATED TIME: 2–5 years

PHASE FOUR: Now the US government would announce “Humanitarian” aid to china which would give cover and reason for US boots to be in china. Once there High level Japanese, and RoK officials will be briefed on the up coming war, and tod to prepare accordingly. Those notified will be watched and if they start to talk they will be killed. So RoK will use this to invae the DRRK and Japan will assist the US, due to new laws allowing Japan to help the US in any conflict. “Humanitarian centers will be set up near Shanghai, Hong Kong. If we get too close to Beijing it may blow our cover. Every US soldier including staff will be on a need to know basis for the rest of the parts. Soon US SOCOM would attack financial centers and power plants. Soon US SOCOM would move on PLA nuclear bease and hae the rebels attack as a distraction while US SOCOM moved to breach the compound and sabotage the missiles. If they fail they have a bomb that they will place at the Missile Silo command room and detonate. By then US Involvment in the conflict would be well know and thats when US Airoforce, Navy and Marine corps air components role become important.

ESTIMATED TIME: 1–2 years

PHASE FIVE: Now that the ghost war is over the fight begins. USAF and US air units will bomb major cities and nuclear bases. The USN would bomb the coast and tie up the PLA Navy. The Japanese Navy and Airforce would assist the USN and USAF in any way. RoK forces would surge across the DMZ, but now back to the main event CHina. The USAF would soon use Napalm and chemical agents to destroy Chinese crops. This will help starve the Chinese into surrender. The USAF would also bomb industrial complexes. Current US troops from the “Humanitarian” mission job would to to secure a beachhead for US forces to arrive. US MArines in Okinawa would prepare for the up coming assualt. for NATO to help out I would stage an attack on a US convoy or an Aircraft, but i would make sure it was caught on nation-wide news on live TV for justification, much like how we entered vietnam

ESTIMATED TIME: 4–5 months

PHASE SIX: Now US forces will invade. US Army Airborne would drop in a week before in major Chinese cities such as: Shanghai, and Hong Kong. Once the USMC is mobilized they will push on Hong Kong. US Army will push on Shanghai. The fighting for the cities will be costly, since high Chinese population, and almost all chinese are trained in infantry tactics. But thanks to Stage 5 the cities would be ravened by Napalm and many other bombs. I estimate 5–7 weeks for the cities to be captured. Once a few of the cities are captured. Meanwhile in the US a Draft would have been put into Effect around the time of Stage 4. I would wait to attack Beijing because it will be a stronghold and a bloody fight. I would direct NATO forces to push through where US forces havnt hit. Most likely the UK and France would be major NATO players along with the US, Japan and the Rok. Once South Eastern China is secured I would move to the Shandong Province. Which could get me to Taijin and Beijing Western China due to is desert will not be a big problem since I will use NATO to push Chinese force into the desert. I would have India push across the desert and I make a deal with Russia to make them join in an Air campaign. So once we take Taijin we will begin massing before the battle for beijing. Also by Stage 3 i would have censored the media so support dosnt dwindle. Victories and Allied kill ratios would be published. So one of the nuke we didnt destroy in the previous stages slips past US forces and lets say is detonated in a carrier group. So with one carrier strike group out, I would portray it like so: “This is why we are fighting this war, the Chinese are willing to nuke the US and destroy the US, avenge the fallen, enlist today, buy war bonds.” So now we have a pissed off population and some just want to give up. By this time it might or already is turning into vietnam 2.0 so now We have to act fast. we make up a story saying we captured the PLA leadership who launched the nuke and shoot them and plaster it all over the press(and the ignorance of the American peope ill make it easy). So with support gained atfter that we will push on Beijing. The battle will be a long and bloody one so soo NATO and the American Allies will achieve victory. So now we have captured surviving command and leadership with many still on the loose. The Leader of the CCP or the PLA would have stayed in the city for moral purposes and if not in a bunker. So we captured a top PLA general who was left second or third in command. We get information on the where abouts of the PLA and CCP leadership and mount an assault on their location. The Pro-US rebels will be formed into the China Democratic Army(CDA). So CDA forces will be put incharge of the trails for public support purposes, but the decision has already been made. Some will be put to exile and some to death. Now the occupation stage begins

ESTIMATED TIME: 15–35 years

PHASE SEVEN: Now most of the PLA has surrendered and the CDA is china’s new armed forces. Now deals we made with russia take into effect. Russia is given the XinJiang, and Inner Mongolia provinces. The RoK is united and now we divide china. Twain is given from Shanghai down, so now the Republic of China is back. The US gets Shanghai to Taijin as a territory. Tibet is now a free country, and Qinghai ,and Gangsu now belong to loyalists of the CCP and the PLA. The US will offer amnesty to an CCP or PLA member that defects to Pro-China nations. For now we would place pro-Allied dictators incharge until everything is stabilized. Then elections will take place. The US would still pump out propaganda to demonized the CCP and the PLA and praise the Allies and the CDA. The CDA would start putting down rebel forces here and there, and the US would have a base in the RoC, Taijing territory(US) and The Unified republic of Korea. Then a DMZ would be established along the PLA and CCP held provinces. India for thier help in the war effort will be given: Yunnon province of china, along with military equipment,so be expecting a war between Pakistan and india soon.
The webpage: https://www.quora.com/How-would-you-invade-China

[Cedoria]

I just chilled the fuck out and put on my thinking cap.

There is no free speech in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK or France.
Their Government in fact bans racism, and people are doing 6 months or more for it, in those countries.

This is what I would do if I were the President.

People in the USA, who experience Anti Americanism online, should print out what is said to them, and mail it to me.

I understand that not every comment online can be accounted for....
BUT this is what is going to happen under my plan.
​People send me Anti American things that are said to them.
And 1,000 of the worst (RECORDED) will be selected by me to charge other countries with (once per year).
 
 
This is what the following countries OWE the IRS (Internal Revenue Service).
 
United Kingdom :  6 Billion Pound Sterling PER 1,000 Anti American comments online.
France : 6 Billion Euros PER 1,000 Anti American comments online
Canada : 3 Billion Canadian Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
Australia : 3 Billion Australian Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
New Zealand : 1 Billion, 500 Million New Zealand Dollars PER 1,000 Anti American Comments online.
 
They owe it as part of their UN Dues.
 
These Charges are in effect UNTIL Their Governments make a decision.
Either (A) They are our friends, and their Governments crack down on Anti Americanism, or (B)They are NOT our friends Anymore,  BUT Option B comes with a total and complete Embargo.
Failure to pay is AUTOMATICALLY Option B.

That would get their Government to crack down on Anti American racism, on the basis of National Origin.



What do you think of my plan ?

Your plan is dumb.

1: How do you define 'anti-American racism'?
2: 'American' is not an ethnicity, can I be considered 'anti-American' if I attack an aspect of US foreign policy say?
3: Why should governments with freedom of speech be held accountable when there citizens exercise that speech? It's not them saying it.
4: What gives the US the right to dictate the expression of every other country on Earth?
5: Who really thinks this is the most serious problem you face?

Answer those five questions satisfactorily, and I might think it as less of a dumb idea then it is.

[Wisconsin9]

Literally everything in the OP is absurd. I realize that that word is an understatement, but it's the only thing I can think of that fits.

[Franco-Iberie]

First of all, who do you think you are, some sort of representative of the US government? You make it seem like you're talking about you personally collecting said comments.

Second of all, this is a terrible idea. You're planning on charging entire governments just because random citizens said something that hurt America's feelings on the internet. The US has no authority to mandate that foreign countries crack down on internet freedom.

Yes we have authority to sanction Governments to make them enforce their own laws already existing... they don't have internet freedom either.

Have you actually been outside of the United States before?

[The Islands of Versilia]

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Anti-Americanism is just a point of view. It's not something to cause an international incident about. I myself could be considered 'Anti-American' by some people, and that is just my opinion, which no state may infringe upon or punish me for it.

[The United Republic of New Britannia]

I find the whole idea absurd because the United States of America stands for freedom of speech and regarding UN dues, America shouldn't be part of the United Nations anyway because it is an un-American organization with a "human rights" body controlled by the worst dictatorships on the planet and a "Universal Declaration of Human Rights" that actually says you have no rights, if you read the fine print (Article 29, Section 3 says "These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.").

If America is to take a stand regarding freedom of speech issues in other countries, America should encourage those nations to become free and decent nations by adopting freedom of speech. We should not be encouraging enforcement of any laws against "hate speech" or "racism" or "sexism" or "homophobia" or "blasphemy" or "mansplaining" or whatever kind of speech the unfree nations of the world choose to ban next. We should be condemning nations that enforce such "laws" and denying them access to our foreign aid unless they adopt freedom.

The USA has no authority to make any country adopt inferior laws such as the BLIND freedom of anything.

[Rhodevus]

hmm... Guess if we are doing this, then the USA should pay a similar amount to... well every country.
A similar amount to all the anti-Canadian comments made
A similar amount to all the anti-Mexicans (It'll cost as much as Trump's wall, I'm guessing)
An amount to each and every EU nation, probably quite a bit for places like Iraq, Vietnam, etc.

Or, we could all just realize that racism is not at all similar to anti-americanism. Racism effects people within a border (Canadian on Canadian for example). And if you want anti-american sentiment, why not talk about the countries that ACTUALLY hate America? not its allies?

[Cedoria]

I find the whole idea absurd because the United States of America stands for freedom of speech and regarding UN dues, America shouldn't be part of the United Nations anyway because it is an un-American organization with a "human rights" body controlled by the worst dictatorships on the planet and a "Universal Declaration of Human Rights" that actually says you have no rights, if you read the fine print (Article 29, Section 3 says "These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.").

If America is to take a stand regarding freedom of speech issues in other countries, America should encourage those nations to become free and decent nations by adopting freedom of speech. We should not be encouraging enforcement of any laws against "hate speech" or "racism" or "sexism" or "homophobia" or "blasphemy" or "mansplaining" or whatever kind of speech the unfree nations of the world choose to ban next. We should be condemning nations that enforce such "laws" and denying them access to our foreign aid unless they adopt freedom.

Wow, just wow, there's such a load of nonsense in that post that I don't know how to begin dismantling it...

[The United Republic of New Britannia]

Yes we have authority to sanction Governments to make them enforce their own laws already existing... they don't have internet freedom either.

Have you actually been outside of the United States before?

Yes, and there is no freedom of speech in most countries.
What freedom there is, is based on how far the Government is willing to go.

[Cedoria]

Literally everything in the OP is absurd. I realize that that word is an understatement, but it's the only thing I can think of that fits.

This.

[Franco-Iberie]

This is a terrible idea, mind you, but it's an original terrible idea. Good job!

[Rhodevus]

Have you actually been outside of the United States before?

Yes, and there is no freedom of speech in most countries.
What freedom there is, is based on how far the Government is willing to go.

Let's test that.
I live in Canada.

Canada sucks.

*looks around*

Nope, I'm still good.