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Should Israel be condemned?

Yes
91
41%
No
99
45%
Maybe
25
11%
Other
7
3%
 
Total votes : 222

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Krasny-Volny
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Krasny-Volny » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:24 pm

Neo Balka wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Does it matter who they buy from, there is always a competitor.


i mean...kinda.

if the brits sold a bunch of shit to Iran i'd be pretty pissed considering the daily fatwa that the ayatollah hands out.


So you're pissed at Israel for selling a bunch of shit to Iran then.

Because they did. Most of it was American defence tech, too.
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Internationalist Bastard
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Ex-Nation

Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:26 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Yes. I despise conflict. A government fanning it is not a government I like

It's not really Israel's choice given the circumstances of the Arab-Israeli conflict, is it?

I can sympathize with the plight of aggressive neighbors, but getting them to kill each other ruins it.
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Dooom35796821595
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Dooom35796821595 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:27 pm

Neo Balka wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:You mean like you guys sold a bunch of shit to Iran?
Should I bring up how your government was seriously considering siding with the Argentines during the Falklands War?
Supporting the Khmer Rouge?
Ditching the ROC for the PRC?


Shut up, nap. Need i remind you how the brits abandoned Rhodesia?


The dissolution of the Empire was done by American influence. In short, blame the USA.
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Neo Balka
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Postby Neo Balka » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:27 pm

Krasny-Volny wrote:
Neo Balka wrote:
i mean...kinda.

if the brits sold a bunch of shit to Iran i'd be pretty pissed considering the daily fatwa that the ayatollah hands out.


So you're pissed at Israel for selling a bunch of shit to Iran then.

Because they did. Most of it was American defence tech, too.


THEY DID WHAT!?

ITS GO TIME!
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Napkiraly
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Ex-Nation

Postby Napkiraly » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:28 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Neo Balka wrote:
Shut up, nap. Need i remind you how the brits abandoned Rhodesia?


The dissolution of the Empire was done by American influence. In short, blame the USA.

^

America was one of the biggest pushers of anti-colonialism. Should I bring up the Suez Crisis?

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Neo Balka
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Postby Neo Balka » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:29 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:
The dissolution of the Empire was done by American influence. In short, blame the USA.

^

America was one of the biggest pushers of anti-colonialism. Should I bring up the Suez Crisis?


DELET THIS.
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Philjia
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Philjia » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:32 pm

Israel's government seems really enthusiastic about antagonising it's enemies both within and without, and then acts hurt when it's allies don't approve. Of course, they're in a difficult situation, what with being right next to loads of countries that hate them and having a significant minority of citizens who wouldn't be averse to overthrowing the government and driving all the Jews out of the country. However, they can never seem to shake the impression that they're deliberately angering people for shits and giggles.
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Ex-Nation

Postby SUNTHREIT » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:32 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:but getting them to kill each other ruins it.

serves them right
they trusted the kikes
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:34 pm

Sunthreit wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:but getting them to kill each other ruins it.

serves them right
they trusted the kikes

whoa whoah, slow down
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Napkiraly
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Ex-Nation

Postby Napkiraly » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:35 pm

Neo Balka wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:^

America was one of the biggest pushers of anti-colonialism. Should I bring up the Suez Crisis?


DELET THIS.

You can atone, son, by helping us reestablish the Empire.

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Neo Balka
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Ex-Nation

Postby Neo Balka » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:36 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Neo Balka wrote:
DELET THIS.

You can atone, son, by helping us reestablish the Empire.


NO.

I WANT MY OWN EMPIRE.

WITH BLACKJACK AND HOOKERS.
The mere fact that i pissed someone off either means i stood for something or i said something offensive.
in this day and age it's both.
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Farnhamia
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Farnhamia » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:39 pm

Neo Balka wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:You can atone, son, by helping us reestablish the Empire.


NO.

I WANT MY OWN EMPIRE.

WITH BLACKJACK AND HOOKERS.

Indoor voice, please.
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SUNTHREIT
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Ex-Nation

Postby SUNTHREIT » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:41 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Neo Balka wrote:
NO.

I WANT MY OWN EMPIRE.

WITH BLACKJACK AND HOOKERS.

Indoor voice, please.

K
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Napkiraly
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Ex-Nation

Postby Napkiraly » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:42 pm

Neo Balka wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:You can atone, son, by helping us reestablish the Empire.


NO.

I WANT MY OWN EMPIRE.

WITH BLACKJACK AND HOOKERS.

Balk, why on earth do you want to be French?

I blame this on you being Irish. It's not your fault. Someone bringing me a cannon to strap him to, for it is the merciful thing.
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Neo Balka
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Postby Neo Balka » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:42 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Neo Balka wrote:
NO.

I WANT MY OWN EMPIRE.

WITH BLACKJACK AND HOOKERS.

Balk, why on earth do you want to be French?

I blame this on you being Irish. It's not your fault. Someone bringing me a cannon to strap him to, for it is the merciful thing.

[Loud noises]
The mere fact that i pissed someone off either means i stood for something or i said something offensive.
in this day and age it's both.
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USS Monitor
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Ex-Nation

Postby USS Monitor » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:43 pm

Sunthreit wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:but getting them to kill each other ruins it.

serves them right
they trusted the kikes


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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:44 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Sunthreit wrote:serves them right
they trusted the kikes


*** 2 week ban for trolling ***

When Mods collide ... I defer to you, Monitor.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:59 pm

Krasny-Volny wrote:
Neo Balka wrote:
i mean...kinda.

if the brits sold a bunch of shit to Iran i'd be pretty pissed considering the daily fatwa that the ayatollah hands out.


So you're pissed at Israel for selling a bunch of shit to Iran then.

Because they did. Most of it was American defence tech, too.


They did?

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Postby Surkiea » Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:01 pm

Israel is the only democracy in the middle east that shares western values, Also I'm glad Israel is bombing Syria, that communist tyrant deserves to have his mercenaries bombed into oblivion.
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Proud bigot.

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Postby Philjia » Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:06 pm

Surkiea wrote:Israel is the only democracy in the middle east that shares western values


Jordan more or less does, although their monarchy takes a more active role in governance than is normal in the west.
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Postby Surkiea » Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:15 pm

Philjia wrote:
Surkiea wrote:Israel is the only democracy in the middle east that shares western values


Jordan more or less does, although their monarchy takes a more active role in governance than is normal in the west.

True, although Israel treats Homosexuals better than Jordan.
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Postby Crockerland » Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:15 pm

Philjia wrote:
Surkiea wrote:Israel is the only democracy in the middle east that shares western values


Jordan more or less does

http://preventforcedmarriage.org/forced-marriage-overseas-jordan/
http://www.girlsnotbrides.org/child-marriage/jordan/
It does not.
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Krasny-Volny » Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:21 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Krasny-Volny wrote:
So you're pissed at Israel for selling a bunch of shit to Iran then.

Because they did. Most of it was American defence tech, too.


They did?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel' ... 93Iraq_war
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Philjia
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Postby Philjia » Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:24 pm



0% of citizens are married by 15 in Jordan according to Unicef, meaning the entire 8% married before 18 are aged 16 and 17. Children aged 16 and 17 may marry with parental consent in both the UK and the US. Few people actually take advantage of this, but it is possible, even if I don't personally agree with it.
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Postby Crockerland » Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:41 pm

Philjia wrote:


0% of citizens are married by 15 in Jordan according to Unicef

I looked up A UNICEF report and found no such statistic, then looked up another one and though I didn't read the unwieldy document in it's entirety, again found no indication of this being the case (and, in fact, found a quote from a woman who was married at the age of 15), where did you find this information?
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