Israel operates with impunity??

[Sanctissima]

lol, I'm anti-communist XD
and yes I believe most "white" Jews are from that region


so how come they don't look Middle-Eastern? So I can claim Jewishness and move to Israel then. I'll probably have more right than the Palestinians, sad.

Might want to ask the Russians that.

Or just move to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast and collect sweet welfare, courtesy of Israel.

Even though, like, barely more than 2% of the population is actually Jewish.

Don't tell Israel.

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

For some reason every time I see your signature, avatar, and username Farewell of Slavianka plays in my head.

Anyway, on topic - are you a proponent of the specific theory that Ashkenazi Jews are descended from Khazars?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar_hy ... i_ancestry

lol, I'm anti-communist XD
and yes I believe most "white" Jews are from that region

They're descended from Middle Easterners forced out by Hadrian, Titus and about a million pogroms.

so how come they don't look Middle-Eastern? So I can claim Jewishness and move to Israel then. I'll probably have more right than the Palestinians, sad.

It's been about one thousand years in a continent overwhelmingly populated by people who don't look Levantine either since they last had direct gene flow from the region. I imagine they imported a bit more than the language from their new neighbors in Europe.

[Neo Balka]

Might want to ask the Russians that.

Or just move to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast and collect sweet welfare, courtesy of Israel.

Even though, like, barely more than 2% of the population is actually Jewish.

Don't tell Israel.

I thought he was asking as to why Jews compared to arabs look so white?

could it be that so much time not in a sun blasted shithole caused pigmentation to change?

[Sanctissima]

Or just move to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast and collect sweet welfare, courtesy of Israel.

Even though, like, barely more than 2% of the population is actually Jewish.

Don't tell Israel.

I thought he was asking as to why Jews compared to arabs look so white?

could it be that so much time not in a sun blasted shithole caused pigmentation to change?

Oh, goodness, no, not in so little time.

Takes several millennia for that to happen.

No, in all likelihood, it's due to interbreeding. The Ashkenazis can claim what they want, but there's no way in hell that elopements with Gentiles weren't happening 24/7.

[Neo Balka]

I thought he was asking as to why Jews compared to arabs look so white?

could it be that so much time not in a sun blasted shithole caused pigmentation to change?

Oh, goodness, no, not in so little time.

Takes several millennia for that to happen.

No, in all likelihood, it's due to interbreeding. The Ashkenazis can claim what they want, but there's no way in hell that elopements with Gentiles weren't happening 24/7.

Wow.

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

I thought he was asking as to why Jews compared to arabs look so white?

could it be that so much time not in a sun blasted shithole caused pigmentation to change?

Oh, goodness, no, not in so little time.

Takes several millennia for that to happen.

No, in all likelihood, it's due to interbreeding. The Ashkenazis can claim what they want, but there's no way in hell that elopements with Gentiles weren't happening 24/7.

I figured as much. Probably a bit more than "elopements" too.

[Slovenya]

It's been about one thousand years in a continent overwhelmingly populated by people who don't look Levantine either since they last had direct gene flow from the region. I imagine they imported a bit more than the language from their new neighbors in Europe.

So in about a thousand years they have the right to go back, commit genocides, acts of terror and dispel the people who were already living there? seems legit.

[Crockerland]

It's been about one thousand years in a continent overwhelmingly populated by people who don't look Levantine either since they last had direct gene flow from the region. I imagine they imported a bit more than the language from their new neighbors in Europe.

So in about a thousand years they have the right to go back, commit genocides, acts of terror and dispel the people who were already living there? seems legit.

They obviously haven't committed genocides, stop spouting ridiculous lies and conspiracy theories.

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

It's been about one thousand years in a continent overwhelmingly populated by people who don't look Levantine either since they last had direct gene flow from the region. I imagine they imported a bit more than the language from their new neighbors in Europe.

So in about a thousand years they have the right to go back, commit genocides, acts of terror and dispel the people who were already living there? seems legit.

No, they don't. I did not claim anything of the sort; I was merely providing a less peculiar explanation for the origins of the Ashkenazi. No doubt the Aliyah was and is accompanied by immorality.

[Sanctissima]

Oh, goodness, no, not in so little time.

Takes several millennia for that to happen.

No, in all likelihood, it's due to interbreeding. The Ashkenazis can claim what they want, but there's no way in hell that elopements with Gentiles weren't happening 24/7.

I figured as much. Probably a bit more than "elopements" too.

A lot of unexpected grandchildren children for older parents.

It was common practice, if your unmarried daughter got pregnant, to hide her away at home until her pregnancy was over, and when the baby was born, claim it and raise it as your own.

[Sanctissima]

It's been about one thousand years in a continent overwhelmingly populated by people who don't look Levantine either since they last had direct gene flow from the region. I imagine they imported a bit more than the language from their new neighbors in Europe.

So in about a thousand years they have the right to go back, commit genocides, acts of terror and dispel the people who were already living there? seems legit.

There haven't been any genocides, and if the Palestinians tried to wipe your people out... thrice... then you might be quite pissy towards them too.

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

I figured as much. Probably a bit more than "elopements" too.

A lot of unexpected grandchildren children for older parents.

It was common practice, if your unmarried daughter got pregnant, to hide her away at home until her pregnancy was over, and when the baby was born, claim it and raise it as your own.

That happened in colonial Latin America too! I'm not surprised.

So in about a thousand years they have the right to go back, commit genocides, acts of terror and dispel the people who were already living there? seems legit.

There haven't been any genocides, and if the Palestinians tried to wipe your people out... thrice... then you might be quite pissy towards them too.

That's part of the reason why this happened.

[Sanctissima]

There haven't been any genocides, and if the Palestinians tried to wipe your people out... thrice... then you might be quite pissy towards them too.

That's part of the reason why this happened.

Eurgh, bodily mutilation always grosses me out. I can understand the desire to give a final "fuck you" to your dead enemy, but damn, people should respect the dead. At least refrain from mutilating their corpses.

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

That's part of the reason why this happened.

Eurgh, bodily mutilation always grosses me out. I can understand the desire to give a final "fuck you" to your dead enemy, but damn, people should respect the dead. At least refrain from mutilating their corpses.

Indeed!

[Slovenya]

They obviously haven't committed genocides, stop spouting ridiculous lies and conspiracy theories.

you've never read about the Zionist militias in the early 20th century? right, I'm sure the rabbi didn't want you to know that bit.
https://medium.com/@thepalestineproject ... .dr8huhkoa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFEVodGkObo
http://www.palestinelink.eu/palestine/t ... 1940-1949/

[Napkiraly]

I thought he was asking as to why Jews compared to arabs look so white?

could it be that so much time not in a sun blasted shithole caused pigmentation to change?

Oh, goodness, no, not in so little time.

Takes several millennia for that to happen.

No, in all likelihood, it's due to interbreeding. The Ashkenazis can claim what they want, but there's no way in hell that elopements with Gentiles weren't happening 24/7.

IIRC genetic studies have suggested that the patrilineal line for Ashkenazis links to the Levant while it is the matrilineal line that tends to be European.

[Slovenya]

There haven't been any genocides, and if the Palestinians tried to wipe your people out... thrice... then you might be quite pissy towards them too.

the Palestinians never wanted to wipe out Jewish people. Jews Christians, and Muslims were living together peacefully before the Zionists arrived.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3bxj1uvDXU

[Napkiraly]

They obviously haven't committed genocides, stop spouting ridiculous lies and conspiracy theories.

you've never read about the Zionist militias in the early 20th century? right, I'm sure the rabbi didn't want you to know that bit.
https://medium.com/@thepalestineproject ... .dr8huhkoa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFEVodGkObo
http://www.palestinelink.eu/palestine/t ... 1940-1949/

And the Palestinians committed similar crimes in kind during that period.

It should also be noted that most Zionists at the time were in favor of establishing equal rights for non-Jewish residents in the new Jewish state. Even Revisionist Zionists like Ze'ev Jabotinsky.

[Neo Balka]

They obviously haven't committed genocides, stop spouting ridiculous lies and conspiracy theories.

you've never read about the Zionist militias in the early 20th century? right, I'm sure the rabbi didn't want you to know that bit.
https://medium.com/@thepalestineproject ... .dr8huhkoa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFEVodGkObo
http://www.palestinelink.eu/palestine/t ... 1940-1949/

Is it really genocide if the Arabs breed like fucking rabbits?

[Napkiraly]

There haven't been any genocides, and if the Palestinians tried to wipe your people out... thrice... then you might be quite pissy towards them too.

the Palestinians never wanted to wipe out Jewish people. Jews Christians, and Muslims were living together peacefully before the Zionists arrived.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3bxj1uvDXU

There were hardly any Jews in that area before the first Aliyah to begin with. Easy to ignore a population that basically doesn't exist except for the one man down the street whose shop sells things made of straw.

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

you've never read about the Zionist militias in the early 20th century? right, I'm sure the rabbi didn't want you to know that bit.
https://medium.com/@thepalestineproject ... .dr8huhkoa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFEVodGkObo
http://www.palestinelink.eu/palestine/t ... 1940-1949/

Is it really genocide if the Arabs breed like fucking rabbits?

If the Jewish militias had said "KILL ALL ARABS" and their birthrate was still high, uh, yes?
Fortunately they didn't say that. Still a scoundrel's barbaric war, even if the Arabs were amped up to make sure they got the final say on all doings in Palaestina.

[Napkiraly]

I mean, after the 1929 riots and the subsequent Arab revolt, I doubt how realistic it would have been to have established a unitary state. WWII sealed the deal, especially after the 1939 White Paper was published which set a lot of Zionists against the British state itself.

[Cedoria]

Israel is defending itself. Good for them.

Nobody whom they've struck in the past few days has shown any inkling of attacking them, that's aggression, not defence.
And yes, Israel should be held accountable, just like any country should be.

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

I mean, after the 1929 riots and the subsequent Arab revolt, I doubt how realistic it would have been to have established a unitary state. WWII sealed the deal, especially after the 1939 White Paper was published which set a lot of Zionists against the British state itself.

I think it would have been a Palestinian Civil War. Quite unrealistic and messy and Lebanon-like.
If the Zionists got leftist enough I imagine that the Soviets would have found some way to get them AK-47s to establish the Israeli Soviet Socialist Republic or some such nonsense

[Napkiraly]

I always enjoy how states that are far worse than Israel tend to rank lower in the pecking order of states that need to be held accountable.