The Death of Free Speech in Europe

[Liriena]

I'm not a liberal. I'm an ultra-leftist.

Whats the difference nowadays??

About the same difference between Gary Johnson and a neo-nazi: a yuuuuuuge one.

[Neo Balka]

All of this "free speech/censorship" blather is nothing but loaded questions. Coming from the same group of people who had collective meltdowns over the content of video game journalism and the cast of a Ghostbusters reboot.

The fact is the media is at this point saturated with people whining about the tyranny of political correctness, and it has been for decades now. The volume and tenor of those complaints has only increased in the last several years. That alone disproves the argument that free speech is somehow under attack.

The media is biased towards... the right? Is that what you're suggesting?

Oh, boy, haven't had such a good laugh in eons.

anything not to the left of Lenin is right wing.

[The Wolven League]

So is this another thread where people complain that places that are not America do not work like America?

No, it's a thread were we express legitimate concern about censorship in Europe.

[Neo Balka]

So is this another thread where people complain that places that are not America do not work like America?

We're complaining that some countries violate human rights.

Human rights are human rights as long as Leftists care about them.

[PaNTuXIa]

So is this another thread where people complain that places that are not America do not work like America?

No, I'm complaining because I actually believe that people should have the right to speak and say what they want.


And I'm an authoritarian nationalist.

[PaNTuXIa]

We're complaining that some countries violate human rights.

Human rights are human rights as long as Leftists care about them.

I'm so glad that Gen Z is ultra-conservative.

[Neo Balka]

So is this another thread where people complain that places that are not America do not work like America?

No, I'm complaining because I actually believe that people should have the right to speak and say what they want.


And I'm an [b]authoritarian nationalist.[/b]

might want to tone down that and go to libertarian.

while the time for talk and debate has been over for a time....

[Neo Balka]

Human rights are human rights as long as Leftists care about them.

I'm so glad that Gen Z is ultra-conservative.

Praise be god almighty.

[Napkiraly]

Free speech and Euros dont mix well.

They actually tend to mix better than free speech and 'muricans.

Freedom of the press is not the same as free speech. They are even differentiated in law. Going to their methodology even shows how such requirements could even end up eroding freedom of the press, via self-censorship and reducing pluralism. https://rsf.org/en/detailed-methodology

[PaNTuXIa]

Whats the difference nowadays??

About the same difference between Gary Johnson and a neo-nazi: a yuuuuuuge one.

The only actual "liberals" that exist today are people like Sargon of Akkad, who are regularly called "neo-nazis" because they aren't ultra-left.

[The Wolven League]

Human rights are human rights as long as Leftists care about them.

I'm so glad that Gen Z is ultra-conservative.

Praise pepe!

Though, depending on what birthdates you view as "Gen Z", I might fall into that generation...

[Frank Zipper]

It's a real shame none of us in Europe can read this thread, or reply to it.

[Amudarya]

No, but Holocaust denialism, believing that members of the wrong ethnic or religious group should be confined, exterminated or deported, etc, are radical positions. Many people who hold such radical positions and seek to advance this agenda are trying to do so under the cover of "free speech".

I'm so sorry I actually give a fuck about my nation's identity and culture. I'm sorry I don't want foreigners that have been shown time and time again to commit more crime and rape to come to my country.

You know I feel sorry for you, and those like you, I really do. It must be dreadful to live with such crippling fear and insecurities. And I understand why people as sensitive and delicate as you feel triggered by the sight of foreigners, or women holding positions of power, or when people say mean things about your anime and video games.

But none of that gives you the right to advance a violent, hateful agenda, even if you try to cloak that under the label of free speech.

[Neo Balka]

They actually tend to mix better than free speech and 'muricans.

Freedom of the press is not the same as free speech. They are even differentiated in law.

Freedom of the press is overrated nowadays.

You got jackass's on CNN and MSNBC screeching about bullshit night and fucking day.

[PaNTuXIa]

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[Neo Balka]

I'm so sorry I actually give a fuck about my nation's identity and culture. I'm sorry I don't want foreigners that have been shown time and time again to commit more crime and rape to come to my country.

You know I feel sorry for you, and those like you, I really do. It must be dreadful to live with such crippling fear and insecurities. And I understand why people as sensitive and delicate as you feel triggered by the sight of foreigners, or women holding positions of power, or when people say mean things about your anime and video games.

But none of that gives you the right to advance a violent, hateful agenda, even if you try to cloak that under the label of free speech.

Who said anything about that?

[The Wolven League]

I'm so sorry I actually give a fuck about my nation's identity and culture. I'm sorry I don't want foreigners that have been shown time and time again to commit more crime and rape to come to my country.

You know I feel sorry for you, and those like you, I really do. It must be dreadful to live with such crippling fear and insecurities. And I understand why people as sensitive and delicate as you feel triggered by the sight of foreigners, or women holding positions of power, or when people say mean things about your anime and video games.

But none of that gives you the right to advance a violent, hateful agenda, even if you try to cloak that under the label of free speech.

You're blowing shit out of proportion while you accuse another of doing the same.

[Napkiraly]

Going to their methodology even shows how such requirements could even end up eroding freedom of the press, via self-censorship and reducing pluralism. https://rsf.org/en/detailed-methodology

[Amudarya]

It's a real shame none of us in Europe can read this thread, or reply to it.

Yes, don't you know, the censorship there is as bad as China, according to the OP. You see, you Euros are under so much censorship, you don't even know you're being censored.

[The Wolven League]

I'm so sorry I actually give a fuck about my nation's identity and culture. I'm sorry I don't want foreigners that have been shown time and time again to commit more crime and rape to come to my country.

You know I feel sorry for you, and those like you, I really do. It must be dreadful to live with such crippling fear and insecurities. And I understand why people as sensitive and delicate as you feel triggered by the sight of foreigners, or women holding positions of power, or when people say mean things about your anime and video games.

But none of that gives you the right to advance a violent, hateful agenda, even if you try to cloak that under the label of free speech.

And also, who the fuck said anything about women in power?

[The Liberated Territories]

So is this another thread where people complain that places that are not America do not work like America?

No, it's a thread were we express legitimate concern about censorship in Europe.

Some countries are better than others, but i'd give up on countries such as Scotland and France which jail people for things like tweeting controversial opinions and wearing burkas.

[PaNTuXIa]

I'm so sorry I actually give a fuck about my nation's identity and culture. I'm sorry I don't want foreigners that have been shown time and time again to commit more crime and rape to come to my country.

You know I feel sorry for you, and those like you, I really do. It must be dreadful to live with such crippling fear and insecurities. And I understand why people as sensitive and delicate as you feel triggered by the sight of foreigners, or women holding positions of power, or when people say mean things about your anime and video games.

But none of that gives you the right to advance a violent, hateful agenda, even if you try to cloak that under the label of free speech.

me wishing to deport illegal immigrants is violent? I don't get triggered at the sight of foreigners - I just don't like it when they usurp resources and contribute nothing to the nation.

Funny how no one says Israel, Japan, China, or Korea need open borders, huh?

[Napkiraly]

I don't think an ultra-leftist is under any authority to bemoan "hateful agendas" considering the rhetoric they use against the middle and upper classes and their historical treatment of those two groups.

[Neo Balka]

You know I feel sorry for you, and those like you, I really do. It must be dreadful to live with such crippling fear and insecurities. And I understand why people as sensitive and delicate as you feel triggered by the sight of foreigners, or women holding positions of power, or when people say mean things about your anime and video games.

But none of that gives you the right to advance a violent, hateful agenda, even if you try to cloak that under the label of free speech.

me wishing to deport illegal immigrants is violent? I don't get triggered at the sight of foreigners - I just don't like it when they usurp resources and contribute nothing to the nation.

Racist.

[Neo Balka]

I don't think an ultra-leftist is under any authority to bemoan "hateful agendas" considering the rhetoric they use against the middle and upper classes and their historical treatment of those two groups.

Up against the wall for me and a bullet for the brain.