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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:30 pm
by The Wolven League
Amudarya wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:In my experience, the far-left and Islamists tend to team up not the Islamists and far-right.


Tell that to the YPG/YPJ, who have killed more Islamists than any right-wing group.

Because it's illegal to kill people who aren't waging literal jihad in most countries.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:30 pm
by Vassenor

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:31 pm
by Neo Balka


I trust the guardian as far as i can throw Amy schumer.

which is not that far.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:31 pm
by Napkiraly
The Wolven League wrote:
Liriena wrote:Sargon of Akkad is a "liberal" in the same way that Steve Bannon is a "leninist". Forgive me if I don't take that shallow Trump shill's claim of liberalism seriously.

Then surely you also hate the Amazing Athiest, an athiest, left-anarchist pothead who consistently rails against political correctness and endorsed Trump?

Tbh I hate the Amazing Atheist but that is because I find him annoying. I really only like Armored Skeptic and Some Black Guy. The rest are just as annoying as those they rail against.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:32 pm
by Proctopeo

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:32 pm
by Amudarya
Napkiraly wrote:
Amudarya wrote:
Tell that to the YPG/YPJ, who have killed more Islamists than any right-wing group.

Ah the same groups that had former volunteers banned from speaking by my former uni's student union which was a union led by Islamists and far-left ideologues.


Sounds like an alliance of Islamists and tankies to me.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:32 pm
by Napkiraly

Yes, the right is just as guilty at times. But long ago, if conservative students had shut down pro-LGBT speakers, far-left speakers, etc from speaking the left would have lost it and been bringing up the issue of right to free speech.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:33 pm
by PaNTuXIa

It's the Guardian. Why would I trust them when it comes to opinionated pieces? Or for that matter, news in general? I only linked them in the OP because I wanted to prove that even leftist outlets were reporting on it.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:33 pm
by Napkiraly
Amudarya wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Ah the same groups that had former volunteers banned from speaking by my former uni's student union which was a union led by Islamists and far-left ideologues.


Sounds like an alliance of Islamists and tankies to me.

In other words, the far-left.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:33 pm
by PaNTuXIa
Napkiraly wrote:

Yes, the right is just as guilty at times. But long ago, if conservative students had shut down pro-LGBT speakers, far-left speakers, etc from speaking the left would have lost it and been bringing up the issue of right to free speech.

Exactly. The roles have been flipped.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:33 pm
by New Werpland
Proctopeo wrote:

>theguardian

Yes, you might have seen it used in the op.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:34 pm
by PaNTuXIa
New Werpland wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:>theguardian

Yes, you might have seen it used in the op.

See: My response

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:34 pm
by Vassenor
New Werpland wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:>theguardian

Yes, you might have seen it used in the op.


Outlets are only valid when they support the conservative narrative.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:34 pm
by Proctopeo
New Werpland wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:>theguardian

Yes, you might have seen it used in the op.

PaNTuXIa wrote:I only linked them in the OP because I wanted to prove that even leftist outlets were reporting on it.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:34 pm
by New Werpland
PaNTuXIa wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Yes, the right is just as guilty at times. But long ago, if conservative students had shut down pro-LGBT speakers, far-left speakers, etc from speaking the left would have lost it and been bringing up the issue of right to free speech.

Exactly. The roles have been flipped.

Germany has been crushing the "free speech" of Nazis since their modern republic was formed.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:35 pm
by The Wolven League
Vassenor wrote:
New Werpland wrote:Yes, you might have seen it used in the op.


Outlets are only valid when they support the conservative narrative.

Outlets are only valid when they're neutral.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:35 pm
by Amudarya
The Wolven League wrote:
Amudarya wrote:
Tell that to the YPG/YPJ, who have killed more Islamists than any right-wing group.

Because it's illegal to kill people who aren't waging literal jihad in most countries.


...and your point is what, exactly?

My point is that it's a far left, feminist militia who is actually the one fighting (and winning) against the Islamist menace, not a bunch of alt-righters.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:35 pm
by New Werpland
PaNTuXIa wrote:
New Werpland wrote:Yes, you might have seen it used in the op.

See: My response

If you're American you don't capitalize that m.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:36 pm
by Vassenor
Also I guess we can add "your article is invalid because of where it was published" to the list of things that is only OK when conservatives do it.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:36 pm
by Neo Balka
New Werpland wrote:
PaNTuXIa wrote:Exactly. The roles have been flipped.

Germany has been crushing the "free speech" of Nazis since their modern republic was formed.


But will certainly let islamists spout their bullshit.

Germany shouldve not been allowed to reform.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:37 pm
by Amudarya
Napkiraly wrote:
Amudarya wrote:
Sounds like an alliance of Islamists and tankies to me.

In other words, the far-left.


It may shock you to learn this, but the "far left" is not a monolith. I'm a democratic confederalist, not a Stalinist.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:37 pm
by Proctopeo
Vassenor wrote:Also I guess we can add "your article is invalid because of where it was published" to the list of things that is only OK when conservatives do it.

PaNTuXIa wrote:I only linked them in the OP because I wanted to prove that even leftist outlets were reporting on it.

Vass, I thought you'd be better than this.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:37 pm
by Neo Balka
Amudarya wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:Because it's illegal to kill people who aren't waging literal jihad in most countries.


...and your point is what, exactly?

My point is that it's a far left, feminist militia who is actually the one fighting (and winning) against the Islamist menace, not a bunch of alt-righters.


>feminism
>middle east

Oh god.

Please stop.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:37 pm
by Vassenor
Neo Balka wrote:But will certainly let islamists spout their bullshit.


Let's see your source.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:37 pm
by Neo Balka
Amudarya wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:In other words, the far-left.


It may shock you to learn this, but the "far left" is not a monolith. I'm a democratic confederalist, not a Stalinist.


what