The Fat Tax

[Internationalist Bastard]

Ego pizza isn't Italian

Was kinda like the fortune cookie in China.

Oh those are hilarious. They actually just hand them out to the white people and otherwise leave them in the box

[Ethel mermania]

i believe this is about the sugar tax on soft drinks that city of Philadelphia has implemented.

it would have been nice if the OP had told us that.

You mean like the one NYC did?

yes, except ours was rolled back by the local judiciary

[The United Republic of New Britannia]

You mean like the one NYC did?

yes, except ours was rolled back by the local judiciary

Good.

[Central Asian Republics]

A fat tax would be silly, but what's even more silly is you comparing being fat to being part of an ethnic group. You can lose some weight but you can't lose your Italian heritage.

[Rio Cana]

Number One : You're the one who is ignorant.

Please, do teach me about my culture.

Latin Culture is a European culture, carried over to Latin America.

Wrong.
Latin culture ended some 1500 years ago. Latin America (or, more accurately, the Romance-speaking American territories) is named after the other name of Romance languages, aka Neo-Latin.

Number 2 : The Mayor of Philadelphia is an Italian-American.

Does he have an Italian passport?
Italian-American means "American with some Italian ancestry", not "Italian".

Number 3: Italian American food is Latin food.

No, it's American food. Italians don't eat "spaghetti and meatballs".
Also, Latin food was the food of the Ancient Romans.

Number 4 : The Latin cultures of the world is French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian and Romanian, with spread-outs in Switzerland and Belgium.
Depending on who you ask, Greek can also be included.

1."The Latin cultures" is a plural. "Are", not "is". If you don't know Latin, at least try to respect English.
2.Neo-Latin, not Latin.
3.Also, Latino, again, is a different thing.
4.If anyone tells a Greek they're culturally Latin, "molon labe" ensues.

Number 5 : The Latin Union is Headquartered in Paris, France.

Also the Latin Quarter is a nightclub in New York.

Also you named "Latino". Suddenly, you forget to mention it?

Quit being an idiot

Stay classy.

So Spag. and Meatballs is US not Italian. So did that Italian immigrant to the US "Chef Boyardee" develop it for the US. So Spag. and Meatballs is US not Italian. Chances are the next thing I will find outis that Chop Suey is also US instead of Chinese.

[Ethel mermania]

Hmm, best I have had was in Boston Regina's...yumm. Didn't have any pizza while in Italy. In fact, I don't recall seeing that many pizza shops, and those I did see where mostly visited by Americans or had the sign authentic American pizza.

Ego pizza isn't Italian

american pizza is from naples, and was brought to NYC.

[Ethel mermania]

This isn't locked yet?

surprises the hell out of me too.

[The United Republic of New Britannia]

Ego pizza isn't Italian

american pizza is from naples, and was brought to NYC.

Thanks for the assistance

[Ethel mermania]

yes, except ours was rolled back by the local judiciary

Good.

they tend to be fairly regressive and hit poor people harder than rich ones, much like smoking taxes. However smoking taxes do work.

[Neutraligon]

Was kinda like the fortune cookie in China.

Oh those are hilarious. They actually just hand them out to the white people and otherwise leave them in the box

I like their other deserts better. but yeah those where funny.

[Thermodolia]

Ego pizza isn't Italian

Was kinda like the fortune cookie in China.

Which is an American invention and not Chinese

[Thermodolia]

You mean like the one NYC did?

yes, except ours was rolled back by the local judiciary

Which is probably what will happen here

[The United Republic of New Britannia]

yes, except ours was rolled back by the local judiciary

Which is probably what will happen here

Good.

[Neutraligon]

Good.

they tend to be fairly regressive and hit poor people harder than rich ones, much like smoking taxes. However smoking taxes do work.

I wonder if there has been a study in the US linking things like sugary drinks to obesity. If so I would say the government has a legitimate interest in reducing the consumption of sugary drinks, since in the end the government has to pay when people are obese.

[Katie Boundary]

It doesn't have to originate in Italy to be Italian food, it has to be invented by a person of Italian origin, and have Italian influence.

To an Italian, it does. American pizza is considered Italian food, and yet most Italians are horrified by it.

That's weird, considering that "American" pizza is just a variation on Neapolitan pizza, which is Italian. Specifically, modern pizzas are based on the margherita pizza, invented by Raffaele Esposito in 1889. Pizza was introduced to the United States by Italian immigrants.

Fortune cookies, on the other hand, are a uniquely American thing.

[Neutraligon]

Ego pizza isn't Italian

american pizza is from naples, and was brought to NYC.

I wasn't in Naples when I was in Italy so that might be why I saw so little pizza there. Could also have been about the version of pizza being sold.

[Shamhnan Insir]

I'm led to believe this is in reference to a sugar tax. Please highlight where in southern european and latin american cuisine there are excessive amounts of sugar. I understand that like South Africa, the US has the habit of adding sugar to everything deemed consumable.

The desert section of Latin cultures are thousands of calories and hundreds and hundreds, or thousands of grams of sugar.
Sugar is a main crop of Latin America.
The Pasta eaten by Italians and now all latin cultures to one extent or another, is also high in sugar content.
The breads eaten by Latin Europeans and Latin Americans are not even like American sliced bread.... these rolls from europe weigh a ton.

Congratulations you found the *dessert* section of the menu.

As for pasta, lets call it 4 to 5 grams per 100 grams shall we, that's not exactly excessive now is it? How about we look at soft drinks again shall we and compare the sugar levels to pasta? And while we're on the subject, looks like a mighty big slice of that sugar grown in latin america goes right into the soft drinks industry. Funny that.

And I had to laugh at "American sliced bread".

[The United Republic of New Britannia]

they tend to be fairly regressive and hit poor people harder than rich ones, much like smoking taxes. However smoking taxes do work.

I wonder if there has been a study in the US linking things like sugary drinks to obesity. If so I would say the government has a legitimate interest in reducing the consumption of sugary drinks, since in the end the government has to pay when people are obese.

The Government has no legitimate interest in any such a thing, NO MATTER WHAT period, at all whatsoever.
Bar none.
What people eat and drink is cultural and/or could be.

[The United Republic of New Britannia]

The desert section of Latin cultures are thousands of calories and hundreds and hundreds, or thousands of grams of sugar.
Sugar is a main crop of Latin America.
The Pasta eaten by Italians and now all latin cultures to one extent or another, is also high in sugar content.
The breads eaten by Latin Europeans and Latin Americans are not even like American sliced bread.... these rolls from europe weigh a ton.

Congratulations you found the *dessert* section of the menu.

As for pasta, lets call it 4 to 5 grams per 100 grams shall we, that's not exactly excessive now is it? How about we look at soft drinks again shall we and compare the sugar levels to pasta? And while we're on the subject, looks like a mighty big slice of that sugar grown in latin america goes right into the soft drinks industry. Funny that.

And I had to laugh at "American sliced bread".

In any case, the Government has no business in my mouth.

[Neutraligon]

I wonder if there has been a study in the US linking things like sugary drinks to obesity. If so I would say the government has a legitimate interest in reducing the consumption of sugary drinks, since in the end the government has to pay when people are obese.

The Government has no legitimate interest in any such a thing, NO MATTER WHAT period, at all whatsoever.
Bar none.
What people eat and drink is cultural and/or could be.

They do since the government is the one who has to deal with the healthcare costs of a person being obese. They are the ones who have to deal with having a citizenry who is too fat to be able to defend itself or join the military should the need for a draft ever occur again. Smoking a pipe or a cigarette can be cultural, that does not mean the government does not have a legitimate reason to tax it.

[AiliailiA]

I wonder if there has been a study in the US linking things like sugary drinks to obesity. If so I would say the government has a legitimate interest in reducing the consumption of sugary drinks, since in the end the government has to pay when people are obese.

The Government has no legitimate interest in any such a thing, NO MATTER WHAT period, at all whatsoever.
Bar none.
What people eat and drink is cultural and/or could be.

And smoking? That's "cultural and/or could be" I'm sure. Government has no legitimate reason to tax tobacco?

Depending on your answer to that, we might talk about other drugs ...

[Katie Boundary]

The Government has no legitimate interest in any such a thing, NO MATTER WHAT period, at all whatsoever.
Bar none.

...as long as everyone bears the cost of their own medical expenses, anyway. When one person's quadruple bypass surgery is paid for out of taxpayer pockets instead of his or her own, then the public has an interest in reducing the burden that these fatasses place on the taxpayers. But that's just a good reason to keep government out of health care.

the government is the one who has to deal with the healthcare costs of a person being obese.

You mean the taxpayers have to deal with it. Government never actually pays for anything. And note that this isn't an issue in a 100% privatized/free-market medical system.

[Ethel mermania]

they tend to be fairly regressive and hit poor people harder than rich ones, much like smoking taxes. However smoking taxes do work.

I wonder if there has been a study in the US linking things like sugary drinks to obesity. If so I would say the government has a legitimate interest in reducing the consumption of sugary drinks, since in the end the government has to pay when people are obese.

bloomberg was big on it, i wouldnt be surprised if there were, but i dont remember from the time. Bloomberg was looking to bring down obesity in kids and type two diabetes in adults, which is one of the biggest killers in the City


edit: to add the obesity in kids

[Shamhnan Insir]

Congratulations you found the *dessert* section of the menu.

As for pasta, lets call it 4 to 5 grams per 100 grams shall we, that's not exactly excessive now is it? How about we look at soft drinks again shall we and compare the sugar levels to pasta? And while we're on the subject, looks like a mighty big slice of that sugar grown in latin america goes right into the soft drinks industry. Funny that.

And I had to laugh at "American sliced bread".

In any case, the Government has no business in my mouth.

Quite true, however the extent to which the gov't can intervene to protect the health of its citizens is up for debate. Consume what you like, but if that diet leaves you bed-bound or worse by the time you are 30 then perhaps an incentive to do otherwise should be in the picture somewhere.

[Olthar]

Congratulations you found the *dessert* section of the menu.

As for pasta, lets call it 4 to 5 grams per 100 grams shall we, that's not exactly excessive now is it? How about we look at soft drinks again shall we and compare the sugar levels to pasta? And while we're on the subject, looks like a mighty big slice of that sugar grown in latin america goes right into the soft drinks industry. Funny that.

And I had to laugh at "American sliced bread".

In any case, the Government has no business in my mouth.

Now let's not go that far. I wouldn't mind if Ivanka Trump had some business in my mouth.