What do you think of liberalism and capitalism?

[Nationalist Brazil]

so what you think of liberalism and capitalism

[Eol Sha]

You should provide your own opinion, OP.

Anyway, I consider myself a liberal. The liberal ideology is the foundation of my own political views. I also like capitalism, but, as a liberal, I don't believe in unregulated capitalism.

[Church of the Earth Mother]

Liberalism was the machine through which the bourgeois dominated and exploited the entire world and was able to temporarily pacify the proletariat with notions that they would somehow rise above the exploitation to be equals of their oppressors, and capitalism is how the spoils of their exploitation were distributed, to the leaders of the bourgeois elite themselves.

[Jelmatt]

Depends what we mean by liberalism, but I am a ddemocratic socialist so make of that what you will.

[UKCS]

Capitalism = Strongly dislike it.
Liberalism = Neutral.

[The Vrree Nations]

I think they're good ideas. We should try them sometime.

[Aigania]

Liberalism was the machine through which the bourgeois dominated and exploited the entire world and was able to temporarily pacify the proletariat with notions that they would somehow rise above the exploitation to be equals of their oppressors, and capitalism is how the spoils of their exploitation were distributed, to the leaders of the bourgeois elite themselves.

A bit heavy handed but dead on.

Political liberalism to have a democracy (free elections, effective separation of powers) it would be an obvious yes.

Capitalism only acceptable with a social straitjacket like the Christian Democracy or Social Democracy of Western Europe circa 1945-1975. And similar alternatives.

Otherwise ... well you only need to read the news to know, what Capitalism do when it doesn't need to pretend to be nice, even in "First" world countries.

[Jute]

I think they're good ideas. We should try them sometime.

Is this satire?

[The Vrree Nations]

I think they're good ideas. We should try them sometime.

Is this satire?

Yes it is. It's based on a quote by Gandhi about democracy. My point is that a lot of what masquerades as "liberalism" and "capitalism" nowadays (at least at the actual policy-making level) is nothing of the sort.

[Old Tyrannia]

There's been a slew of these lately, so as a reminder:

Threads whose opening posts consist of nothing more than a single question/line of text, OR a link (or C&P'ed text), OR just directs to a poll question, it is considered spam. This being a discussion forum and to prevent directionless threads from developing more spam than my supermarket's shelves, we ask that OPs put a wee bit more work into their OPs.

Please tell us what YOU think, and why.

For example:

Which is better, squirrels or llamas?

No.

Which is better, squirrels or llamas? I like llamas.

Still no.

Which is better, squirrels or llamas? I like llamas because they are just so fuzzy and silly looking. While squirrels have been known to take on motorcycle riders and even the police, you cannot state that a squirrel is in any way better than the joy that is a llama.

Much better, this passes muster.