Canada is a federal country, and yet it does not suffer from Alberta attempting to subvert the legalization of homosexuality.
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by Hyggemata » Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:46 am
Conservative logic: every slope is a slippery slope.
Liberal logic: climb every mountain; ford every stream.
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Fuck the common good

by The United Colonies of Earth » Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:47 am
Hyggemata wrote:The United Colonies of Earth wrote:Federalism is essential. In America anyways. Without the states we would have the political seesawing of Ohio on a national scale.
Canada is a federal country, and yet it does not suffer from Alberta attempting to subvert the legalization of homosexuality.

by Hyggemata » Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:52 am
Conservative logic: every slope is a slippery slope.
Liberal logic: climb every mountain; ford every stream.
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Fuck the common good

by Costa Fierro » Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:45 am
Kravanica wrote:Ehhh, parliamentary systems suck.

by Novus America » Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:59 am
Hyggemata wrote:Abolition of states should be first on the agenda.

by Hyggemata » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:01 am
Conservative logic: every slope is a slippery slope.
Liberal logic: climb every mountain; ford every stream.
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Fuck the common good

by Novus America » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:04 am

by Hyggemata » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:09 am
Novus America wrote:Hyggemata wrote:I'm not saying that there should be no local government. A re-assignment of the remit of constituent vs. federal governments is urgently required.
Well changing the distribution of powers somewhat is different than abolishing the states.
But if anything we need more, not less local government.
Conservative logic: every slope is a slippery slope.
Liberal logic: climb every mountain; ford every stream.
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Fuck the common good

by Novus America » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:16 am
Hyggemata wrote:Novus America wrote:
Well changing the distribution of powers somewhat is different than abolishing the states.
But if anything we need more, not less local government.
I'm all in favour for keeping and expanding local government, but in meaningful ways. What I don't support is states enacting policies opposing the federal government as a means of political protest.

by Hyggemata » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:40 am
Novus America wrote:Hyggemata wrote:I'm all in favour for keeping and expanding local government, but in meaningful ways. What I don't support is states enacting policies opposing the federal government as a means of political protest.
Well that is not a major problem as the courts shut that down. And that does not neccesitate abolishing the states. And is invetable to occur with any local government. If they do you stop them. Which we already do.

Conservative logic: every slope is a slippery slope.
Liberal logic: climb every mountain; ford every stream.
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Fuck the common good

by Novus America » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:57 am
Hyggemata wrote:Novus America wrote:
Well that is not a major problem as the courts shut that down. And that does not neccesitate abolishing the states. And is invetable to occur with any local government. If they do you stop them. Which we already do.
And what happens when the states refuse to accept the ruling of the highest court in the land?

by Hyggemata » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:02 am
Conservative logic: every slope is a slippery slope.
Liberal logic: climb every mountain; ford every stream.
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Fuck the common good

by Neu Leonstein » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:07 am
The United Colonies of Earth wrote:I'm aware. The United States is more politically heterogeneous than the rest of the OECD as far as I know.

by Novus America » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:08 am
Hyggemata wrote:Well that is fair enough, in my opinion. Canada is too a federal country, yet it does not suffer from the disunity in the USA. Perhaps some lessons could be had.

by Hyggemata » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:33 am
Novus America wrote:Hyggemata wrote:Well that is fair enough, in my opinion. Canada is too a federal country, yet it does not suffer from the disunity in the USA. Perhaps some lessons could be had.
Quebec? Also Canada only has one tenth the population of the US. California alone has a bigger population than the entirety of Canada.
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Liberal logic: climb every mountain; ford every stream.
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Fuck the common good
by Alizeria » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:38 am
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by Novus America » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:38 am
Hyggemata wrote:Novus America wrote:
Quebec? Also Canada only has one tenth the population of the US. California alone has a bigger population than the entirety of Canada.
Quebec has settled down because its people have come to their senses. People who support independent Texas haven't. Anyway, I think the Canadian system is the direction in which the USA wants to migrate.

by Aclion » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:04 am

by Hyggemata » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:05 am
Aclion wrote:I feel like it should be pointed out that the whole point of the US political structure is to make it very difficult to do things.
Conservative logic: every slope is a slippery slope.
Liberal logic: climb every mountain; ford every stream.
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Fuck the common good

by Aclion » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:08 am

by Hyggemata » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:18 am
Aclion wrote:Hyggemata wrote:That's not a good thing, when you realize that there are endless tasks the government should be doing.
Ah but there is an even larger list of endless tasks that the government should not be doing.
I should also point out that the US states have a lot more leeway in governance then is typical in parliamentary countries, so a lot the tasks normally taken by national government is done more locally.
Conservative logic: every slope is a slippery slope.
Liberal logic: climb every mountain; ford every stream.
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Fuck the common good

by Kravanica » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:21 am
Alvalero wrote:Kravanica wrote:What the fuck is the point of having a president if he's ceremonial?
President of Ireland's duties may be a good place to start - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Ireland

by Kravanica » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:22 am
Hyggemata wrote:Abolition of states should be first on the agenda.

by Kravanica » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:23 am
Hyggemata wrote:Well that is fair enough, in my opinion. Canada is too a federal country, yet it does not suffer from the disunity in the USA. Perhaps some lessons could be had.
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