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Postby Vassenor » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:13 am

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Liriena wrote:So, my American friends, how fares your very first kleptocratic kakistocracy?


*whisper whisper*



Huh?


*whisper whisper*


What? Seriously?


*whisperwhisper*


...oh, crap.

Jesus...why am i not even surprised?
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Liriena wrote:So, my American friends, how fares your very first kleptocratic kakistocracy?


*whisper whisper*



Huh?


*whisper whisper*


What? Seriously?


*whisperwhisper*


...oh, crap.


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Postby Corrian » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:53 am

Someone made a good point. Republicans go on about people mooching off the government, then they themselves are...mooching off the government by, after ALL this time, of bitching about Obamacare, keeping it for themselves.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:58 am

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Gauthier wrote:Wonder how many Trump voters unironically bitched about Clinton's supposed corruption and are now imploding their heads trying to rationalize and excuse all this...


ivanka deciding to run a woman's charity out of the whitehouse while soliciting international donations blows my mind. it is so very "Clinton foundation in the republican feverdream" ish that I cant imagine what she's thinking.

And when it turns out the only cause being relieved by the "charity" is Ivanka, you won't hear a single "LOCK HER UP" from the Trumpquisitors and Trumpketeers.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:15 am

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Gauthier wrote:Narcking is cool again.

Is there a problem with turning in people who have violated the law?


Well, yes.

Just like I explained to someone the other day, I wouldn't turn in my family if they had broken the law. Because, well, that's fucked. So I wouldn't turn in someone who happens to be an illegal immigrant just because they're an illegal immigrant if I happen to know them.

Loyalty is more important than the law. If you disagree with me, that's fine, I don't expect you to agree, but I wouldn't want a friend or acquaintance like you around me if you'd be willing to fuck me over like that.

"Snitches get stitches" wasn't born in a vacuum. It's usually part of a more tight-knit culture in prisons, where they all have to learn to deal with one another and a bond of loyalty and trust is to be established among all. Honestly, I'd trust an ex-convict to be loyal to me than a law-abiding citizen. I've found, from experience, that "law-abiding" and "upclass" people are more fucked up than "criminals" or "lowlifes", when it comes to loyalty.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:21 am

Corrian wrote:Someone made a good point. Republicans go on about people mooching off the government, then they themselves are...mooching off the government by, after ALL this time, of bitching about Obamacare, keeping it for themselves.


Of course they're going to keep Obamacare for themselves.

Their problem was never Obamacare, it was that it was too good a package for the "rubble".
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:28 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Corrian wrote:Someone made a good point. Republicans go on about people mooching off the government, then they themselves are...mooching off the government by, after ALL this time, of bitching about Obamacare, keeping it for themselves.


Of course they're going to keep Obamacare for themselves.

Their problem was never Obamacare, it was that it was too good a package for the "rubble".


Do you think any Republican politician ever turned and thought "maybe what we're doing here is fucked up?"
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Postby Shofercia » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:49 pm

New haven america wrote:
Shofercia wrote:
Every single major country would rig America's election if that could be the case. Why would you not? 1. Let's say that you're the leader of France. You're having currency issues. Get a pro-French Government in the US, and your currency problems evaporate. America is an economic powerhouse. 2. What kind of sane leader would not have motive to control America?

So if the Democrats made America so weak, that the Russians could rig America's Elections, should the Democrats really be trusted with anything, except for managing junior varsity football games? I'm being serious here. It's a huge issue. I don't want a foreign power to waltz in and tell us, Californians, how to run our Referendum System. So if someone is able to do that, who the fuck let them? That's a huge issue.



1. Uh, France uses the Euro, so if they're going through currency troubles, chances are that getting a Pro-French government in America wouldn't really be that helpful. That actually seems like more of an EU problem.
2. Maybe leaders who actually care about the sovereignty of other countries...

Also, I'd like to point out that it was Democrats that saved California's failing economy (Caused by the Republican Govenator).


California's Economy was failing? We were hit hard because of the Housing Scam, not because of the Governator. His attempts failed, and he accepted that. Even so, the whole Housing Scam affected no more than 14% of our economy, and that part wasn't destroyed; it was just badly damaged. Regarding the French - let's say that we elected French McFrenchie as president. French then goes to banks and says "bail out France and I'll get some of the regulations repealed". Problem solved.

And what modern leaders care about national sovereignty? Quite a few NATO countries were perfectly on board bombing Serbia over Racak, which turned out to be quite different than the media's presentation. You're welcome to read Milosevic's cross of Helena "bullshitter" Ranta on that, during the actual trial. Turkey just flat out invaded Cyprus. And don't even get me started on the Middle East.

Asia has various island disputes. African countries have militias raiding each other. National sovereignty can work if borders aren't drawn by a bunch of people who have no idea what the fuck they're doing. In our World, it doesn't work. Why should the Kurds accept Assad's Rule without a Federalist Modification? The difference here is that is that someone, allegedly, unsuccessfully attempted to intervene in America's Elections, emphasis on the word "unsuccessfully" and, in order to hide their internal embarrassment, the DNC pretended that said intervention was a success.
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Postby Shofercia » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:52 pm

New haven america wrote:To have a war of attrition, both side need to be at around equal levels.


Erm, have you heard of the Vietnam War?


Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Is there a problem with turning in people who have violated the law?


Well, yes.

Just like I explained to someone the other day, I wouldn't turn in my family if they had broken the law. Because, well, that's fucked. So I wouldn't turn in someone who happens to be an illegal immigrant just because they're an illegal immigrant if I happen to know them.

Loyalty is more important than the law. If you disagree with me, that's fine, I don't expect you to agree, but I wouldn't want a friend or acquaintance like you around me if you'd be willing to fuck me over like that.

"Snitches get stitches" wasn't born in a vacuum. It's usually part of a more tight-knit culture in prisons, where they all have to learn to deal with one another and a bond of loyalty and trust is to be established among all. Honestly, I'd trust an ex-convict to be loyal to me than a law-abiding citizen. I've found, from experience, that "law-abiding" and "upclass" people are more fucked up than "criminals" or "lowlifes", when it comes to loyalty.


It also depends on what they did. If they stole food from a store, without a weapon, in order to feed their family, I'm not going to turn them in, even if they're illegal aliens.
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Postby Shofercia » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:00 pm

Is it absolutely mandatory for a US President to push for an unnecessary war? Is that like in the Constitution somewhere?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

President Trump and his top national security advisers briefed congressional lawmakers Wednesday on what a senior aide called the “very grave threat” posed by North Korea, but they offered few details about the administration’s strategy to pressure Pyongyang. Administration officials emphasized in a pair of private briefings — one open to all senators and held at the White House complex and one for House members on Capitol Hill — that they were developing a range of economic, diplomatic and military measures in the wake of a series of provocations from North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un’s regime. Lawmakers said they came away convinced that the Trump administration recognized the urgency of the mounting tensions on the Korean Peninsula, where Pyongyang conducted a failed missile test last week and drew international condemnation for the launch.


Why? North Korea has been doing this shit for quite a while. What suddenly makes North Korea a "very grave" threat? Is Trump going to roll out the following chart:

Trump's threat levels:

"not-so-grave"
"grave-ish"
"not grave enough for twitter"
"somewhat grave"
"twitter grave"
"very grave" (< Trump is currently here)
"extremely grave"
"tomahawks dispatched!"
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:10 pm

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:eyebrow: I get that boars are nasty critters, but how would dropping them into Iraq help with the Syrian Civil War?


Better bacon than barrel bombs, bruv. :hug:

Corrian wrote:Sounds like a prime example of voting R down ticket, but voting (almost) Democrat up ticket. Considering Tom Price still won by a large margin.

Of course, that also makes me feel like its even more likely Ossof could win, especially since the Republicans picked the worst choice.


This. Incumbents in these upcoming races are actually going to have to be on their toes, since I feel there are going to be VERY few 'safe' light-red districts.

This isn't even a light red district. This is an R-8 on th CookPVI, this is a ruby red district. The GOP better watch out because if this is happening to deep red districts then no district is safe
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Postby Maineiacs » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:10 pm

Shofercia wrote:Is it absolutely mandatory for a US President to push for an unnecessary war? Is that like in the Constitution somewhere?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

President Trump and his top national security advisers briefed congressional lawmakers Wednesday on what a senior aide called the “very grave threat” posed by North Korea, but they offered few details about the administration’s strategy to pressure Pyongyang. Administration officials emphasized in a pair of private briefings — one open to all senators and held at the White House complex and one for House members on Capitol Hill — that they were developing a range of economic, diplomatic and military measures in the wake of a series of provocations from North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un’s regime. Lawmakers said they came away convinced that the Trump administration recognized the urgency of the mounting tensions on the Korean Peninsula, where Pyongyang conducted a failed missile test last week and drew international condemnation for the launch.


Why? North Korea has been doing this shit for quite a while. What suddenly makes North Korea a "very grave" threat? Is Trump going to roll out the following chart:

Trump's threat levels:

"not-so-grave"
"grave-ish"
"not grave enough for twitter"
"somewhat grave"
"twitter grave"
"very grave" (< Trump is currently here)
"extremely grave"
"tomahawks dispatched!"



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Postby Corrian » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:15 pm

I love how North Korea is the provocative one even though we're the ones poking them over here.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:20 pm

Liriena wrote:So, my American friends, how fares your very first kleptocratic kakistocracy?


*whisper whisper*



Huh?


*whisper whisper*


What? Seriously?


*whisperwhisper*


...oh, crap.

Well that's unconstitutional
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:25 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Liriena wrote:So, my American friends, how fares your very first kleptocratic kakistocracy?


*whisper whisper*



Huh?


*whisper whisper*


What? Seriously?


*whisperwhisper*


...oh, crap.

Well that's unconstitutional


If the President does it etc...
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:26 pm

Shofercia wrote:Is it absolutely mandatory for a US President to push for an unnecessary war? Is that like in the Constitution somewhere?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

President Trump and his top national security advisers briefed congressional lawmakers Wednesday on what a senior aide called the “very grave threat” posed by North Korea, but they offered few details about the administration’s strategy to pressure Pyongyang. Administration officials emphasized in a pair of private briefings — one open to all senators and held at the White House complex and one for House members on Capitol Hill — that they were developing a range of economic, diplomatic and military measures in the wake of a series of provocations from North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un’s regime. Lawmakers said they came away convinced that the Trump administration recognized the urgency of the mounting tensions on the Korean Peninsula, where Pyongyang conducted a failed missile test last week and drew international condemnation for the launch.


Why? North Korea has been doing this shit for quite a while. What suddenly makes North Korea a "very grave" threat? Is Trump going to roll out the following chart:

Trump's threat levels:

"not-so-grave"
"grave-ish"
"not grave enough for twitter"
"somewhat grave"
"twitter grave"
"very grave" (< Trump is currently here)
"extremely grave"
"tomahawks dispatched!"

Trump wants the War President Reelection, of course he'll start one with Best Korea. And when Seoul gets buttfucked he can go down in history for fucking up two developed nations at the same time.
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Postby Corrian » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:27 pm

Have we even, you know, talked with South Korea about this whole thing before poking their dangerous neighbor?
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Postby Uxupox » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:34 pm

Corrian wrote:Have we even, you know, talked with South Korea about this whole thing before poking their dangerous neighbor?


the invasion liberation is next Tuesday.
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Postby Colbert Super PAC » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:34 pm

Corrian wrote:Have we even, you know, talked with South Korea about this whole thing before poking their dangerous neighbor?

Talking with your allies about the possible consequences of dragging them into a disastrous war is WEAK!
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:36 pm

Corrian wrote:Have we even, you know, talked with South Korea about this whole thing before poking their dangerous neighbor?

Since when did Trump ever give a shit about anything besides himself? The only possible upside is the Trump name being a capital slur to the South Korean diaspora.
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Postby Uxupox » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:39 pm

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Corrian wrote:Have we even, you know, talked with South Korea about this whole thing before poking their dangerous neighbor?

Talking with your allies about the possible consequences of dragging them into a disastrous war is WEAK!


when/
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:42 pm

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Colbert Super PAC wrote:Talking with your allies about the possible consequences of dragging them into a disastrous war is WEAK!


when/

So what happened to avoiding involvement?
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Postby Uxupox » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:48 pm

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Uxupox wrote:
when/

So what happened to avoiding involvement?


posting a news story is now a political inclination?
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Postby Sareva » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:56 pm

Liriena wrote:So, my American friends, how fares your very first kleptocratic kakistocracy?


*whisper whisper*



Huh?


*whisper whisper*


What? Seriously?


*whisperwhisper*


...oh, crap.

Okay, first off, that's over the top drama.

Second thing, fucking HuffPo.
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