Trump MAGAThread V: March Comes In Like A Lion

[Ashmoria]

and of course Obamacare isn't really failing. it isn't doing as well as it could because of republican determination to kill it.

[Vassenor]

and of course Obamacare isn't really failing. it isn't doing as well as it could because of republican determination to kill it.

You're letting facts get in the way again.

[Distruzio]

and of course Obamacare isn't really failing. it isn't doing as well as it could because of republican determination to kill it.

Not "really failing" in the sense that Venezuela isnt really socialist or isnt "really failing" in the sense that it is successfully making insurance affordable again?

[Washington Resistance Army]

and of course Obamacare isn't really failing. it isn't doing as well as it could because of republican determination to kill it.

It absolutely is failing. The Republicans certainly aren't helping it but to claim it's not failing is just wrong. We do need change on healthcare ASAP.

[Ashmoria]

and of course Obamacare isn't really failing. it isn't doing as well as it could because of republican determination to kill it.

You're letting facts get in the way again.

I know

its a perfectly good republican plan to get the vast majority of people health insurance. so the republicans have to kill it because it was passed by democrats.

[Valgora]

and of course Obamacare isn't really failing. it isn't doing as well as it could because of republican determination to kill it.

Obamacare is failing.
We need socialized medicine/universal healthcare (yes, I do use those two interchangeably and not in a negative way).

[Uxupox]

and of course Obamacare isn't really failing. it isn't doing as well as it could because of republican determination to kill it.

Obamacare is failing.
We need socialized medicine/universal healthcare (yes, I do use those two interchangeably and not in a negative way).

That's not the same thing.

[The Black Forrest]

and of course Obamacare isn't really failing. it isn't doing as well as it could because of republican determination to kill it.

Obamacare is failing.
We need socialized medicine/universal healthcare (yes, I do use those two interchangeably and not in a negative way).

Ok. I will bite. How is it failing?

[Ashmoria]

and of course Obamacare isn't really failing. it isn't doing as well as it could because of republican determination to kill it.

It absolutely is failing. The Republicans certainly aren't helping it but to claim it's not failing is just wrong. We do need change on healthcare ASAP.

good luck with that

[Ashmoria]

and of course Obamacare isn't really failing. it isn't doing as well as it could because of republican determination to kill it.

Obamacare is failing.
We need socialized medicine/universal healthcare (yes, I do use those two interchangeably and not in a negative way).

it isn't failing and socialized medicine is politically untenable. we need to make THIS plan work as well as it can then work on ways to reach those who still don't have insurance.

[Valgora]

Obamacare is failing.
We need socialized medicine/universal healthcare (yes, I do use those two interchangeably and not in a negative way).

it isn't failing and socialized medicine is politically untenable. we need to make THIS plan work as well as it can then work on ways to reach those who still don't have insurance.

By forcing people to buy heath insurance.
What a great idea.

But with socialized medicine, we wouldn't really have to deal with insurance because everyone could be covered.

[Ashmoria]

it isn't failing and socialized medicine is politically untenable. we need to make THIS plan work as well as it can then work on ways to reach those who still don't have insurance.

By forcing people to buy heath insurance.
What a great idea.

But with socialized medicine, we wouldn't really have to deal with insurance because everyone could be covered.

of course

but it is politically impossible so why bother worrying about it?

[The Black Forrest]

it isn't failing and socialized medicine is politically untenable. we need to make THIS plan work as well as it can then work on ways to reach those who still don't have insurance.

By forcing people to buy heath insurance.
What a great idea.

But with socialized medicine, we wouldn't really have to deal with insurance because everyone could be covered.

Ohhh nobody is the boss of you.

[Uxupox]

it isn't failing and socialized medicine is politically untenable. we need to make THIS plan work as well as it can then work on ways to reach those who still don't have insurance.

By forcing people to buy heath insurance.
What a great idea.

But with socialized medicine, we wouldn't really have to deal with insurance because everyone could be covered.

You still mandating people to buy health insure via taxes as predetermined by the state.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Obamacare is failing.
We need socialized medicine/universal healthcare (yes, I do use those two interchangeably and not in a negative way).

Ok. I will bite. How is it failing?

Prices are rising, more and more insurers are pulling out of the exchanges etc. It's a bad system that doesn't really work all that well, we need something new.

[Ashmoria]

By forcing people to buy heath insurance.
What a great idea.

But with socialized medicine, we wouldn't really have to deal with insurance because everyone could be covered.

You still mandating people to buy health insure via taxes as predetermined by the state.

there ya go!

and that reminds me that trump has worked to kill the ACA by instructing the IRS not to check into whether or not people have health insurance.

[The Black Forrest]

Ok. I will bite. How is it failing?

Prices are rising, more and more insurers are pulling out of the exchanges etc. It's a bad system that doesn't really work all that well, we need something new.

Of course. The like their obscene profits. They don't like being told they can't deny people. Etc., etc., etc.

Keep in mind many of the failings were set to appease the republicans.

[Ashmoria]

Ok. I will bite. How is it failing?

Prices are rising, more and more insurers are pulling out of the exchanges etc. It's a bad system that doesn't really work all that well, we need something new.

but youre not going to GET something new.

at best they'll let it limp along; at worst they repeal it and replace it with a system guaranteed to make insurance ineffective and unaffordable.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Prices are rising, more and more insurers are pulling out of the exchanges etc. It's a bad system that doesn't really work all that well, we need something new.

Of course. The like their obscene profits. They don't like being told they can't deny people. Etc., etc., etc.

Keep in mind many of the failings were set to appease the republicans.

Sure, but that doesn't change the fact that it is failing.

I dunno what we should do on healthcare because frankly it's not an area I'm particularly knowledgeable on but I do know we need something other than Obamacare.

[Ashmoria]

Of course. The like their obscene profits. They don't like being told they can't deny people. Etc., etc., etc.

Keep in mind many of the failings were set to appease the republicans.

Sure, but that doesn't change the fact that it is failing.

I dunno what we should do on healthcare because frankly it's not an area I'm particularly knowledgeable on but I do know we need something other than Obamacare.

there IS NOTHING other than Obamacare.

as our friend above said, universal health care, single payer, socialized medicine would all be superior but, sadly, we cant have nice things in this country any more.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Of course. The like their obscene profits. They don't like being told they can't deny people. Etc., etc., etc.

Keep in mind many of the failings were set to appease the republicans.

Sure, but that doesn't change the fact that it is failing.

I dunno what we should do on healthcare because frankly it's not an area I'm particularly knowledgeable on but I do know we need something other than Obamacare.

Personally, I am of the mindset that health insurance is just a failing system in and of itself that should have died last century.

It's not sustainable to have a population eternally betting against itself on the risk of getting sick.

[Uxupox]

Sure, but that doesn't change the fact that it is failing.

I dunno what we should do on healthcare because frankly it's not an area I'm particularly knowledgeable on but I do know we need something other than Obamacare.

Personally, I am of the mindset that health insurance is just a failing system in and of itself that should have died last century.

It's not sustainable to have a population eternally betting against itself on the risk of getting sick.

Honestly nobody is going to force me to buy something I don't want.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Sure, but that doesn't change the fact that it is failing.

I dunno what we should do on healthcare because frankly it's not an area I'm particularly knowledgeable on but I do know we need something other than Obamacare.

there IS NOTHING other than Obamacare.

as our friend above said, universal health care, single payer, socialized medicine would all be superior but, sadly, we cant have nice things in this country any more.

The way you pose it is that we should either be happy with eating shit, or starve to death, if given the choice.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Personally, I am of the mindset that health insurance is just a failing system in and of itself that should have died last century.

It's not sustainable to have a population eternally betting against itself on the risk of getting sick.

Honestly nobody is going to force me to buy something I don't want.

This^

Sure, but that doesn't change the fact that it is failing.

I dunno what we should do on healthcare because frankly it's not an area I'm particularly knowledgeable on but I do know we need something other than Obamacare.

Personally, I am of the mindset that health insurance is just a failing system in and of itself that should have died last century.

It's not sustainable to have a population eternally betting against itself on the risk of getting sick.

I dunno, this is an area I just really don't know much about. Way too complicated for me.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Personally, I am of the mindset that health insurance is just a failing system in and of itself that should have died last century.

It's not sustainable to have a population eternally betting against itself on the risk of getting sick.

Honestly nobody is going to force me to buy something I don't want.

And health insurance is better at this, you think, how?