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Postby PaNTuXIa » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:08 pm

Gauthier wrote:
PaNTuXIa wrote:Hah

No

Trump is probably the most honest politician in decades. He also keeps his promises.

Like Draining The Swamp by appointing Goldman-Sachs executives to cabinet positions

You think Hillary would've done any better? Besides, last I checked, weren't the leftists the ones who wanted neoliberal globalist bankers in office?
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:08 pm

Gauthier wrote:
PaNTuXIa wrote:Hah

No

Trump is probably the most honest politician in decades. He also keeps his promises.

Like Draining The Swamp by appointing Goldman-Sachs executives to cabinet positions, getting Congress to pay for the Winchester Wall and keeping Obamacare?


To be fair he was honest about being a racist pile of human garbage.
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Postby Corrian » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:09 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Camicon wrote:One item on a laundry list of broken promises. Yippee.


From what I know he's at least tried to follow through on most of his campaign promises in a pretty quick timespan.

Through seemingly excessive executive order overuse.

Though he seems to have toned down, thank god.

But he's followed through on some ,not on others...Like draining the swamp.

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Corrian wrote:That's the most hilarious thing I've heard all day.

>trump won't build a wall
>builds wall
besides, the man's only been in office for three months. it's not like you can accomplish much in that timeframe

And then lies about a ton of other stuff. So honest.
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Postby Camicon » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:09 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Camicon wrote:One item on a laundry list of broken promises. Yippee.


From what I know he's at least tried to follow through on most of his campaign promises in a pretty quick timespan.

Yeah, Trump sure turned that swamp into pasture, didn't he?
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Camicon wrote:Ah, I had forgotten Trump nixed the TPP.

Now if only he'd follow through on his promise to give everyone in American healthcare insurance with lower deductibles than the ACA offers.


If only the Democrats would hate public healthcare so he'd embrace it.

If only the US had politicians that were actually responsive to what their constituents wanted, instead of gaming the system to the benefit of themselves and their corporate donors.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:10 pm

Gauthier wrote:
PaNTuXIa wrote:Hah

No

Trump is probably the most honest politician in decades. He also keeps his promises.

Like Draining The Swamp by appointing Goldman-Sachs executives to cabinet positions, getting Congress to pay for the Winchester Wall and keeping Obamacare?

So apparently now the Webster definition of "honesty" is "draining swamps". Draining swamps is certainly aggravating, but I thought that there was another term for that.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:10 pm

Corrian wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
From what I know he's at least tried to follow through on most of his campaign promises in a pretty quick timespan.

Through seemingly excessive executive order overuse.

Though he seems to have toned down, thank god.

But he's followed through on some ,not on others...Like draining the swamp.

PaNTuXIa wrote:>trump won't build a wall
>builds wall
besides, the man's only been in office for three months. it's not like you can accomplish much in that timeframe

And then lies about a ton of other stuff. So honest.

>he won't axe tpp
>axes tpp
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:11 pm

Camicon wrote:If only the US had politicians that were actually responsive to what their constituents wanted, instead of gaming the system to the benefit of themselves and their corporate donors.


If only the Midwest Rustbelt and the South didn't exist.

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Postby PaNTuXIa » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:12 pm

Camicon wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
From what I know he's at least tried to follow through on most of his campaign promises in a pretty quick timespan.

Yeah, Trump sure turned that swamp into pasture, didn't he?
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If only the Democrats would hate public healthcare so he'd embrace it.

If only the US had politicians that were actually responsive to what their constituents wanted, instead of gaming the system to the benefit of themselves and their corporate donors.

Huh?

I'm sorry, did you support Hillary Clinton?
If you did, you have no right to criticize crony capitalism and big corporations when your candidate represented that, and the candidate you opposed was the opposite of that.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:12 pm

Camicon wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
From what I know he's at least tried to follow through on most of his campaign promises in a pretty quick timespan.

Yeah, Trump sure turned that swamp into pasture, didn't he?


I hate to break it to you pal but if you want a politician that will stick to everything they say you're going to be waiting a very long time.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:12 pm

PaNTuXIa wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Like Draining The Swamp by appointing Goldman-Sachs executives to cabinet positions

You think Hillary would've done any better? Besides, last I checked, weren't the leftists the ones who wanted neoliberal globalist bankers in office?


"Bu-but, HILLARY!!11" is not an acceptable defense. Would you like to try again?
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Postby Corrian » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:13 pm

PaNTuXIa wrote:I'm sorry, did you support Hillary Clinton?
If you did, you have no right to criticize crony capitalism and big corporations when your candidate represented that, and the candidate you opposed was the opposite of that.

Yes, the billionaire con artist was the opposite of crony capitalism....

And even if he was in the primary (He clearly wasn't at times), he certainly isn't now.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:14 pm

Valrifell wrote:
PaNTuXIa wrote:You think Hillary would've done any better? Besides, last I checked, weren't the leftists the ones who wanted neoliberal globalist bankers in office?


"Bu-but, HILLARY!!11" is not an acceptable defense. Would you like to try again?

not the argument i'm making. I just don't see why ""leftists"" claim to oppose this guy, Mnuchin, when he is everything they love and saw in Hillary Clinton.
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Postby Camicon » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:14 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Camicon wrote:If only the US had politicians that were actually responsive to what their constituents wanted, instead of gaming the system to the benefit of themselves and their corporate donors.


If only the Midwest Rustbelt and the South didn't exist.

Unless Trump does something monumentally stupid to provoke Russia, the Midwest and South aren't going anywhere.

On the other hand, reformation of the government can be achieved within a few scant years, if given enough support.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:15 pm

PaNTuXIa wrote: your candidate represented that, and the candidate you opposed was the opposite of that.


Let's see your sources.
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Postby Corrian » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:15 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Camicon wrote:Yeah, Trump sure turned that swamp into pasture, didn't he?


I hate to break it to you pal but if you want a politician that will stick to everything they say you're going to be waiting a very long time.

Ahem

(Actually, he probably wouldn't have entirely, either)
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:16 pm

PaNTuXIa wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
"Bu-but, HILLARY!!11" is not an acceptable defense. Would you like to try again?

not the argument i'm making. I just don't see why ""leftists"" claim to oppose this guy, Mnuchin, when he is everything they love and saw in Hillary Clinton.

"BUTBUTHILLAREE" again. Why aren't you able to defend Trump without WhatabutHillaryisms?
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Postby United City States of Oceania » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:16 pm

PaNTuXIa wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Like Draining The Swamp by appointing Goldman-Sachs executives to cabinet positions

You think Hillary would've done any better? Besides, last I checked, weren't the leftists the ones who wanted neoliberal globalist bankers in office?

Yes, I do, actually.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:16 pm

Corrian wrote:
PaNTuXIa wrote:I'm sorry, did you support Hillary Clinton?
If you did, you have no right to criticize crony capitalism and big corporations when your candidate represented that, and the candidate you opposed was the opposite of that.

Yes, the billionaire con artist was the opposite of crony capitalism....

And even if he was in the primary (He clearly wasn't at times), he certainly isn't now.

Really? Was Trump the one taking millions of dollars from Wall Street and corporations and pushing the media in his favor? Was Trump the one with almost all the celebrities on his side?
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:16 pm

Camicon wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
If only the Midwest Rustbelt and the South didn't exist.

Unless Trump does something monumentally stupid to provoke Russia, the Midwest and South aren't going anywhere.

On the other hand, reformation of the government can be achieved within a few scant years, if given enough support.


I don't have much faith in that. They managed to lose the Feingold race and seemed to have learned no lessons from that. Its almost like the politics aren't universal nationwide.
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Postby Camicon » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:16 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Camicon wrote:Yeah, Trump sure turned that swamp into pasture, didn't he?


I hate to break it to you pal but if you want a politician that will stick to everything they say you're going to be waiting a very long time.

Not stacking his cabinet with Goldman Sachs executives and oil tycoons is a relatively simple thing to do.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:17 pm

PaNTuXIa wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
"Bu-but, HILLARY!!11" is not an acceptable defense. Would you like to try again?

not the argument i'm making. I just don't see why ""leftists"" claim to oppose this guy, Mnuchin, when he is everything they love and saw in Hillary Clinton.


As if you can't see the same thing in both and decide they were lesser in Clinton? Honestly, it's a matter of extremes here. Clinton is essentially the standard when it comes to corporate influence in politics and Trump is the corporate influence in politics.

By voting for Trump, a you've done is cut out the middle man.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:17 pm

United City States of Oceania wrote:
PaNTuXIa wrote:You think Hillary would've done any better? Besides, last I checked, weren't the leftists the ones who wanted neoliberal globalist bankers in office?

Yes, I do, actually.

dammit, that would be in my sig, but i don't' have enough room.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:17 pm

Gauthier wrote:
PaNTuXIa wrote:not the argument i'm making. I just don't see why ""leftists"" claim to oppose this guy, Mnuchin, when he is everything they love and saw in Hillary Clinton.

"BUTBUTHILLAREE" again. Why aren't you able to defend Trump without WhatabutHillaryisms?

Why aren't you able to defend Hillary without "WHATABOUTTRUMPS"?
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Postby Camicon » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:18 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Camicon wrote:Unless Trump does something monumentally stupid to provoke Russia, the Midwest and South aren't going anywhere.

On the other hand, reformation of the government can be achieved within a few scant years, if given enough support.


I don't have much faith in that. They managed to lose the Feingold race and seemed to have learned no lessons from that. Its almost like the politics aren't universal nationwide.

Fixing politics at the federal level requires fixing politics at the local, and then state, level. It's a bottom-up process, not a top-down one.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:18 pm

PaNTuXIa wrote:
Corrian wrote:Yes, the billionaire con artist was the opposite of crony capitalism....

And even if he was in the primary (He clearly wasn't at times), he certainly isn't now.

Really? Was Trump the one taking millions of dollars from Wall Street and corporations and pushing the media in his favor?


Trump would normally supply those millions of dollars, so...
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