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Postby Taviana SSR » Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:56 am

On 5 March 1953, the outstanding proletarian leader, Josef V. Stalin, was murdered by the hands of revisionist traitors. He was a man of his word to his last breath, it was Lenin and Stalin who guided the struggle of the Bolshevik Party, the transition from the bourgeois-democratic revolution to the Socialist revolution. 100 years ago, his banishment in Siberia ended with the victory of the February Revolution. At once he took the lead of the party work in Petrograd.

A communist revolutionary, Stalin was the outstanding leader of the preparation of the Red October as Lenin's right-hand man. Just as Stalin successfully prepared the October Revolution, we Communists must prepare a new socialist revolution. Learning the lessons of Stalin on the preparation of the October Revolution, this means, learning how to prepare successfully socialist revolution. For a successful revolution, there can not be any form of unity with the enemies of the of Red October, with the opportunists, the centrist, revisionist and neo-revisionist lackeys, Trotskyite traitors and sectarian Anarchists.

The whole communist movement mourns the loss of the steeled disciple and successor of Lenin, the great Classic of Marxism-Leninism. Stalin's legacy is immortal and his ideas will never die. His red genius enlightens the path towards the victorious proletarian revolution. He will live forever on hearts and minds of every oppressed and exploited worker and of every communist. All capitalist lies and revisionist propaganda will never erase comrade Stalin's glorious legacy. Marxism-Leninism is the guiding light against all the kinds of capitalism, imperialism, fascism, revisionism, neo-revisionism, opportunism and anti-communism that slander communism's goals and achievements.

What is your opinion on Josef Stalin's death and who was really behind it? My guess is that is was the clique around Krushev. Why Stalin might have been killed is a less difficult question. Revisionist members of the Politburo lived in fear of Stalin; beyond that Stalin was preparing to fitght against the anti-soviet revisionist conspiracy known as the Doctors Plot.
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Postby Baltenstein » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:58 am

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One of history's greatest tyrants and butchers died soaked in his own piss because his own lackeys were too terrified of him to disturb his sleep, and that's all there is to it.

Good thing though he didn't get the chance to use this completely made-up antisemitic libel you mention in your last sentence to indulge in more atrocities, OP.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:00 am

He was a truly awful piece of shit, that's all there really is to say about him.
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Postby Barboneia » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:02 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:He was a truly awful piece of shit, that's all there really is to say about him.

He had a cool mustache, though.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:02 am

Barboneia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:He was a truly awful piece of shit, that's all there really is to say about him.

He had a cool mustache, though.


And some cool hats, but both of those are pretty normal for dictators.
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Postby Erinkita III » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:03 am

Baltenstein wrote:

One of history's greatest tyrants and butchers died soaked in his own piss because his own lackeys were too terrified of him to disturb his sleep, and that's all there is to it.

Good thing though he didn't get the chance to use this completely made-up antisemitic libel you mention in your last sentence to indulge in more atrocities, OP.

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Postby Uxupox » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:08 am

A trash human being heck one can Disney mode and call him "barely even human". Nothing good came out of him.
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Postby Lautrec- » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:10 am

What is your opinion on Josef Stalin's death and who was really behind it?


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Postby Raszezsar » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:33 am

He did plenty of things antithetical to leftism and has sullied the name of communism for several decades to come, but he did single-handedly beat the nazis back as well as spread Marxism-Leninism over a third if not half of the world's countries.
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Postby Baltenstein » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:36 am

Raszezsar wrote:He did plenty of things antithetical to leftism and has sullied the name of communism for several decades to come, but he did single-handedly beat the nazis back.


I believe there actually was an alliance of some sort.
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Postby Raszezsar » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:43 am

Baltenstein wrote:
Raszezsar wrote:He did plenty of things antithetical to leftism and has sullied the name of communism for several decades to come, but he did single-handedly beat the nazis back.


I believe there actually was an alliance of some sort.

Not so much of an alliance as a non-aggression pact broken later by Germany itself. Better have that than the Axis powers siding with capitalist Allied countries.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:51 am

1) I honestly think Beria poisoned him.
2) He was a butcher and an awful person.
3) He still saved the world from Hitler, so he gets some points.
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Postby Raszezsar » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:55 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:1) I honestly think Beria poisoned him.
2) He was a butcher and an awful person.
3) He still saved the world from Hitler, so he gets some points.

Kudos for industrializing Russia too. That I forgot to mention.
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Postby Aclion » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:57 am

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Postby Novus America » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:04 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:1) I honestly think Beria poisoned him.
2) He was a butcher and an awful person.
3) He still saved the world from Hitler, so he gets some points.


He did not "save the world from Hitler". The Soviet Union was more than Stalin, and the Soviet Union did not alone win. In fact Stalin made many dusasterous divisions that caused the Soviet Union to be badly defeated early on in the war.

Military men, scientists enginners and workers, not stupid politicians stopped Hitler.
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Postby Novus America » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:08 am

Raszezsar wrote:He did plenty of things antithetical to leftism and has sullied the name of communism for several decades to come, but he did single-handedly beat the nazis back as well as spread Marxism-Leninism over a third if not half of the world's countries.


So here personally fought his way to Berlin, smashing tanks with his bare hands?!

I am pretty sure soldiers and workers supporting them from many nations fought Hitler. Not just one paranoid wacko. Who actually nearly got the Soviet Union destroyed by his incompetent military policies. Purging your best soldiers is not a good idea.
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Postby Community Values » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:08 am

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Bakunin shoulda been leader. Or at least Trotsky. Or better yet, the Cadets.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:08 am

He wasn't a particularly nice man.
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Postby Raszezsar » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:09 am

Novus America wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:1) I honestly think Beria poisoned him.
2) He was a butcher and an awful person.
3) He still saved the world from Hitler, so he gets some points.


He did not "save the world from Hitler". The Soviet Union was more than Stalin, and the Soviet Union did not alone win. In fact Stalin made many dusasterous divisions that caused the Soviet Union to be badly defeated early on in the war.

Soldiers, not stupid politicians stopped Hitler.

Historian Richard Vinen notes in his book "A History in Fragments: Europe in the Twentieth Century" that the eastern front was the scene of almost all the serious fighting and, between 1941 and 1943, Soviet troops were the only ones to fight German forces on European soil. Vinen estimates that it was in fact the Red Army, not the US or the UK, that was responsible for approximately 75 percent of the Nazi soldiers killed, wounded or captured in World War II.

So the Soviet Union didn't win alone, sure, but it won mostly.
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Postby Novus America » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:12 am

Raszezsar wrote:
Novus America wrote:
He did not "save the world from Hitler". The Soviet Union was more than Stalin, and the Soviet Union did not alone win. In fact Stalin made many dusasterous divisions that caused the Soviet Union to be badly defeated early on in the war.

Soldiers, not stupid politicians stopped Hitler.

Historian Richard Vinen notes in his book "A History in Fragments: Europe in the Twentieth Century" that the eastern front was the scene of almost all the serious fighting and, between 1941 and 1943, Soviet troops were the only ones to fight German forces on European soil. Vinen estimates that it was in fact the Red Army, not the US or the UK, that was responsible for approximately 75 percent of the Nazi soldiers killed, wounded or captured in World War II.

So the Soviet Union didn't win alone, sure, but it won mostly.


But the Soviet Union was not Stalin. Stalin did not kill a single German soldier.
Also the Soviets relied on US logistical support. US made trucks and trains provided Soviet logistics. Soviet soldiers ate US food, used us medicine and wore US made boots.

Sure the PEOPLE of the Soviet Union made a major contribution DESPITE Stalin's incompetence and purges. Had the Soviets had a better leader many fewer people would have died.

Again it was servicemen, workers, scientists and engineers of many countries who won.
Not some paranoid sociopath hiding in his office.
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Postby Raszezsar » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:15 am

Novus America wrote:
Raszezsar wrote:Historian Richard Vinen notes in his book "A History in Fragments: Europe in the Twentieth Century" that the eastern front was the scene of almost all the serious fighting and, between 1941 and 1943, Soviet troops were the only ones to fight German forces on European soil. Vinen estimates that it was in fact the Red Army, not the US or the UK, that was responsible for approximately 75 percent of the Nazi soldiers killed, wounded or captured in World War II.

So the Soviet Union didn't win alone, sure, but it won mostly.


But the Soviet Union was not Stalin. Stalin did not kill a single German soldier.
Also the Soviets relied on US logistical support. US made trucks and trains.

Sure the PEOPLE of the Soviet Union made a major contribution DESPITE Stalin's incompetence and purges. Had the Soviets had a better leader many fewer people would have died.

Novus America wrote:
Raszezsar wrote:He did plenty of things antithetical to leftism and has sullied the name of communism for several decades to come, but he did single-handedly beat the nazis back as well as spread Marxism-Leninism over a third if not half of the world's countries.


So here personally fought his way to Berlin, smashing tanks with his bare hands?!

I am pretty sure soldiers and workers supporting them from many nations fought Hitler. Not just one paranoid wacko. Who actually nearly got the Soviet Union destroyed by his incompetent military policies. Purging your best soldiers is not a good idea.

If you want to nitpick, Soviet Union of course won, while Stalin was its leader at the time, so... I don't know what's so difficult to understand for you.

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Bakunin shoulda been leader. Or at least Trotsky. Or better yet, the Cadets.

A marxist-leninist friend of mine said while we were speculating who'd lead the soviets if Stalin wouldn't. I was thinking Trotsky too, but he thought Nikolai Bukharin to be a likelier choice due to his popularity. All Trotsky did was operate the Red Army for a while dealing with the civil war.

Interestingly enough, anarcho-communist Pyotr Kropotkin was actually offered an office in the bolshevik government, which he refused to take due to his anarchism. A shame, really.
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Postby Novus America » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:19 am

Raszezsar wrote:
Novus America wrote:
But the Soviet Union was not Stalin. Stalin did not kill a single German soldier.
Also the Soviets relied on US logistical support. US made trucks and trains.

Sure the PEOPLE of the Soviet Union made a major contribution DESPITE Stalin's incompetence and purges. Had the Soviets had a better leader many fewer people would have died.

Novus America wrote:
So here personally fought his way to Berlin, smashing tanks with his bare hands?!

I am pretty sure soldiers and workers supporting them from many nations fought Hitler. Not just one paranoid wacko. Who actually nearly got the Soviet Union destroyed by his incompetent military policies. Purging your best soldiers is not a good idea.

If you want to nitpick, Soviet Union of course won, while Stalin was its leader at the time, so... I don't know what's so difficult to understand for you.

Community Values wrote:"Let's take all the bad parts of communism, put it in a unfit nation for class war, institute something completely opposite of Communism, and then call it Communism!"

Bakunin shoulda been leader. Or at least Trotsky. Or better yet, the Cadets.

A marxist-leninist friend of mine said while we were speculating who'd lead the soviets if Stalin wouldn't. I was thinking Trotsky too, but he thought Nikolai Bukharin to be a likelier choice due to his popularity. All Trotsky did was operate the Red Army for a while dealing with the civil war.

Interestingly enough, anarcho-communist Pyotr Kropotkin was actually offered an office in the bolshevik government, which he refused to take due to his anarchism. A shame, really.


A good leader never takes credit for what his people did but does take responsibility for his failures. One it was not the Soviet Union alone, and two Stalin screwed things up early on, getting a lot of people uncessarily killed. If not for his insane purges the war would have gone better.

The Soviet Union won in spite of Stalin, not because of him. Had the Soviets had a good leader the war would still be won, but with fewer deaths.
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Postby Taviana SSR » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:28 am

So much capitalist propaganda is repeated in this thread. Stalin did not single-handedly fight to Berlin, nobody evr claimed that. Instead, he took on the hard task of preparing Soviet society in general (by purging all traitorous elements and spies and industrializing the country), and the red Army especially (by excluding less reliable elements and encouraging tank production), for the coming war. He offered an alliance against Germany to Britain and France in 1938, but they denied again and again, so he bought valuable time with the non-agression pact. The Soviet Union had under his rule an increase of iron production of 450% and thousands of kilometers of railroad were constructed.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:31 am

What makes you all so sure that Stalin is really dead?
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Postby Taviana SSR » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:37 am

Ifreann wrote:What makes you all so sure that Stalin is really dead?


His ideas and achievements do live on.
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