by Taviana SSR » Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:56 am
by Baltenstein » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:58 am
by Washington Resistance Army » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:00 am
by Barboneia » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:02 am
Washington Resistance Army wrote:He was a truly awful piece of shit, that's all there really is to say about him.
by Washington Resistance Army » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:02 am
by Erinkita III » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:03 am
Baltenstein wrote:(Image)
One of history's greatest tyrants and butchers died soaked in his own piss because his own lackeys were too terrified of him to disturb his sleep, and that's all there is to it.
Good thing though he didn't get the chance to use this completely made-up antisemitic libel you mention in your last sentence to indulge in more atrocities, OP.
by Lautrec- » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:10 am
What is your opinion on Josef Stalin's death and who was really behind it?
by Raszezsar » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:33 am
by Baltenstein » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:36 am
Raszezsar wrote:He did plenty of things antithetical to leftism and has sullied the name of communism for several decades to come, but he did single-handedly beat the nazis back.
by Raszezsar » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:43 am
by United Muscovite Nations » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:51 am
by Raszezsar » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:55 am
United Muscovite Nations wrote:1) I honestly think Beria poisoned him.
2) He was a butcher and an awful person.
3) He still saved the world from Hitler, so he gets some points.
by Novus America » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:04 am
United Muscovite Nations wrote:1) I honestly think Beria poisoned him.
2) He was a butcher and an awful person.
3) He still saved the world from Hitler, so he gets some points.
by Novus America » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:08 am
Raszezsar wrote:He did plenty of things antithetical to leftism and has sullied the name of communism for several decades to come, but he did single-handedly beat the nazis back as well as spread Marxism-Leninism over a third if not half of the world's countries.
by Community Values » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:08 am
by The Holy Therns » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:08 am
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by Raszezsar » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:09 am
Novus America wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:1) I honestly think Beria poisoned him.
2) He was a butcher and an awful person.
3) He still saved the world from Hitler, so he gets some points.
He did not "save the world from Hitler". The Soviet Union was more than Stalin, and the Soviet Union did not alone win. In fact Stalin made many dusasterous divisions that caused the Soviet Union to be badly defeated early on in the war.
Soldiers, not stupid politicians stopped Hitler.
by Novus America » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:12 am
Raszezsar wrote:Novus America wrote:
He did not "save the world from Hitler". The Soviet Union was more than Stalin, and the Soviet Union did not alone win. In fact Stalin made many dusasterous divisions that caused the Soviet Union to be badly defeated early on in the war.
Soldiers, not stupid politicians stopped Hitler.
Historian Richard Vinen notes in his book "A History in Fragments: Europe in the Twentieth Century" that the eastern front was the scene of almost all the serious fighting and, between 1941 and 1943, Soviet troops were the only ones to fight German forces on European soil. Vinen estimates that it was in fact the Red Army, not the US or the UK, that was responsible for approximately 75 percent of the Nazi soldiers killed, wounded or captured in World War II.
So the Soviet Union didn't win alone, sure, but it won mostly.
by Raszezsar » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:15 am
Novus America wrote:Raszezsar wrote:Historian Richard Vinen notes in his book "A History in Fragments: Europe in the Twentieth Century" that the eastern front was the scene of almost all the serious fighting and, between 1941 and 1943, Soviet troops were the only ones to fight German forces on European soil. Vinen estimates that it was in fact the Red Army, not the US or the UK, that was responsible for approximately 75 percent of the Nazi soldiers killed, wounded or captured in World War II.
So the Soviet Union didn't win alone, sure, but it won mostly.
But the Soviet Union was not Stalin. Stalin did not kill a single German soldier.
Also the Soviets relied on US logistical support. US made trucks and trains.
Sure the PEOPLE of the Soviet Union made a major contribution DESPITE Stalin's incompetence and purges. Had the Soviets had a better leader many fewer people would have died.
Novus America wrote:Raszezsar wrote:He did plenty of things antithetical to leftism and has sullied the name of communism for several decades to come, but he did single-handedly beat the nazis back as well as spread Marxism-Leninism over a third if not half of the world's countries.
So here personally fought his way to Berlin, smashing tanks with his bare hands?!
I am pretty sure soldiers and workers supporting them from many nations fought Hitler. Not just one paranoid wacko. Who actually nearly got the Soviet Union destroyed by his incompetent military policies. Purging your best soldiers is not a good idea.
Community Values wrote:"Let's take all the bad parts of communism, put it in a unfit nation for class war, institute something completely opposite of Communism, and then call it Communism!"
Bakunin shoulda been leader. Or at least Trotsky. Or better yet, the Cadets.
by Novus America » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:19 am
Raszezsar wrote:Novus America wrote:
But the Soviet Union was not Stalin. Stalin did not kill a single German soldier.
Also the Soviets relied on US logistical support. US made trucks and trains.
Sure the PEOPLE of the Soviet Union made a major contribution DESPITE Stalin's incompetence and purges. Had the Soviets had a better leader many fewer people would have died.Novus America wrote:
So here personally fought his way to Berlin, smashing tanks with his bare hands?!
I am pretty sure soldiers and workers supporting them from many nations fought Hitler. Not just one paranoid wacko. Who actually nearly got the Soviet Union destroyed by his incompetent military policies. Purging your best soldiers is not a good idea.
If you want to nitpick, Soviet Union of course won, while Stalin was its leader at the time, so... I don't know what's so difficult to understand for you.Community Values wrote:"Let's take all the bad parts of communism, put it in a unfit nation for class war, institute something completely opposite of Communism, and then call it Communism!"
Bakunin shoulda been leader. Or at least Trotsky. Or better yet, the Cadets.
A marxist-leninist friend of mine said while we were speculating who'd lead the soviets if Stalin wouldn't. I was thinking Trotsky too, but he thought Nikolai Bukharin to be a likelier choice due to his popularity. All Trotsky did was operate the Red Army for a while dealing with the civil war.
Interestingly enough, anarcho-communist Pyotr Kropotkin was actually offered an office in the bolshevik government, which he refused to take due to his anarchism. A shame, really.
by Taviana SSR » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:28 am
by Taviana SSR » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:37 am
Ifreann wrote:What makes you all so sure that Stalin is really dead?
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