BREAKING! Obama Allegedly Wiretapped Trump during Campaign

[Ashmoria]

I'm saying that libel sites are not reliable news sources.

So you're saying that you don't believe that Trump believes that Obama's administration (not necessarily Obama the person) was illegally wiretapping his campaign?

he's probably not saying that but.... trump is from the world of reality tv where one pretends all sorts of things for "ratings"

[Blasted Craigs]

to point c-Yes, I know what Fascism is

You know, after reading that screed, I'm not entirely convinced.

I accept you have a basic understanding of the dictionary definition of 'fascism', but you're then likely misapplying the use of the word on the basis of some superficial similiarities between your personal interpretation of politics and that dictionary definition, and what appears to be a misguided conflation of authoritarianism with 'fascism'.

But a conversation for another thread, perhaps.

Edit:
Ah, and I see you've started that thread yourself; fair enough

Yea, felt like I was jacking the thread. And wanted to discuss further this point.

[Empire of Cats]

Aaaaand you're argument is done. Back to the loch with you, Nessie.

I'm sorry that the liberal media continually withholds vital information from the public. The media is always keeping the inconvenient facts hidden away as it would hurt their agenda.

Even though I think that it's not completely outside the realm of possibility, you're being ridiculous.

Obama's tyranny is that he continually unites big business, liberal media and sjws against the conservative people of this country - mostly the south - and uses legal means to undermine our perfect culture. Look at what happened in Berkeley! the sjws have declared war on our freedom of speech, and now our way of life is in danger...

The liberal media has declared war on southern pride and is the same reason Japan has to grovel at the feet of their former enemies...if we aren't careful, the liberal media is going to have us apologizing to the indians for "crimes." They do this by controlling the release of information in a dishonest way to support their twisted anti-southern agenda...

I'm going to give you two big clues on how to be respected on this site.
1) Don't make silly claims without evidence.
2) Don't make silly claims using evidence that is clearly false (InfoWars)
Follow these, and people will be willing to debate you, rather than simply dismiss you it of hand.

I think just supporting my culture and my President make me subject to a bunch of unwarranted disrespect anyways...sorry not sorry! #ProudDeplorable

Yeah, no. Sorry, but I'm gonna have to interject. I'm a "Johnny Reb" myself. My Scots-Irish ancestors have lived in the South since the early 1700's, and they even moved west to my state (Arkansas) before it was even a territory. One of my relatives fought at Vicksburg, on the Confederate side. In short, my family's been here a long time. So, as a proud Southerner and proud Arkansan, I'm afraid to tell you that the MSM isn't out to destroy the Southern way of life. Heck, our main newspaper is conservative to the point where there are frequent letters to the editor asking why we have a few liberal columnists on our opinions page. Does the media from out east/west sometimes look down upon us? Sure, the same way most Southerners down here view the coasts as liberal cesspools. It works both ways and while I don't like being seen as more of a provincial guy, I'd hardly say that there's some sort of conspiracy to undermine the Southern way of life. If you want to look for the real reason as to why Trump's under fire, maybe you should consult some of his campaign speeches or some of his speeches since he was elected. If you look, you might find, and I paraphrase: 'When Mexico sends it's people, they're...sending drug dealers and rapists..." "He's a hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured." Or his mocking of a disabled reporter. Or claiming that Muslims in New Jersey cheered on 9/11. Or claiming that...well, you get the picture. If you want more, you need only ask. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. Right now, Trump's biggest enemy is himself, and if he keeps shooting himself in the foot, he's only got himself to blame.

[Conservative Republic Of Huang]

Noice Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy.

Anyway, no proof and Patriot Act makes it legal anyway.

If you think it is normal to be under surveillance by the state than I think you welfare-giving fellas have completely lost it but this thread has already become a place for moralists and left-wingers that pat eachother on the back while they laugh about right-wingers so this will be my last post here.

Ah, yes. The eternally reliable source of infowars, the site that spews bullshit unproven conspiracy theroies.

This is my news source and I already told someone else in this thread that it is as reliable as any other outlet in these days. Dismissing me because you think that my news outlet is not reliable is a opinion you can have but if you only comment for the sake of telling me that what I am reading is bullshit without any backing and because the mainstream media told you so, then you can gladly stay away.

Ahem. Look at the front page. All the titles are biased. Now look at CNN, BBC, etc. Their front page isn't proclaiming "Alt-right: Dumbed down by design."

[Wallenburg]

This is my news source and I already told someone else in this thread that it is as reliable as any other outlet in these days. Dismissing me because you think that my news outlet is not reliable is a opinion you can have but if you only comment for the sake of telling me that what I am reading is bullshit without any backing and because the mainstream media told you so, then you can gladly stay away.

I'm still waiting for Mr. Jones to apologize to his audience for telling them that black helicopters would have taken them to FEMA camps by now.