BREAKING! Obama Allegedly Wiretapped Trump during Campaign

[Christo Pax]

Some Articles to Read:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/04/trump-accuses-obama-administration-wiretapping-trump-tower-phones.html
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-accuses-obama-of-wire-tapping-in-october-1488637355

Link to the Constitution:

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

This could be a political scandal larger than Watergate if it is true. It goes as follows: then President Barack Obama wiretapped Trump Tower in October 2016. However, there has been no evidence of this unwarranted interference. But could this be another scandal to add to Obama's already tarred legacy, (IRS Scandal, Benghazi, Fast and Furious Scandal?) This discussion forum was created to engage a debate on this issue, and discuss if Trump's claim is true or false, and Obama's actions, (that is, if his actually administration carried them out) are justified or a violation of the Constitution.

[Dooom35796821595]

Nonsense,no one actually believed he could win until he did.

[San Lumen]

This is absolutely zero evidence this is true. It has been denied by former staffers not to mention it would be illegal. The President cannot order wiretaps.

[Ostroeuropa]

The context has changed since the Nixon era.
Mass surveillance is a norm now. It would be odd for him not to be under surveillance.

[Major-Tom]

Until evidence is released, I'll dismiss these claims.

[Christo Pax]

This is absolutely zero evidence this is true. It has been denied by former staffers not to mention it would be illegal. The President cannot order wiretaps.

Exactly, that is why it is such a big deal if it was true, and a violation of the 4th Amendment.

[Republic of Tacos]

The context has changed since the Nixon era.
Mass surveillance is a norm now. It would be odd for him not to be under surveillance.

Especially if he was working with the Russians. It's called the Patriot Act.

[Philjia]

Obama is also secretly a communist Muslim penguin from another dimension.

At least make up some plausible allegations.

[United Socialist Ecuador]

I don't believe this. Because due to the fact if that was true, Trump would lose by the elites gaining the upperhand.

[San Lumen]

This is absolutely zero evidence this is true. It has been denied by former staffers not to mention it would be illegal. The President cannot order wiretaps.

Exactly, that is why it is such a big deal if it was true, and a violation of the 4th Amendment.

Except its not true and there is no evidence whatsoever that it is.

[Republic of Tacos]

Hold on, is it a Trump accusation over Twitter? It isn't true. xD

[Christo Pax]

The context has changed since the Nixon era.
Mass surveillance is a norm now. It would be odd for him not to be under surveillance.

While the Patriot's Act has been enacted and surveillance has become commonplace, it still requires a warrant to wiretap. Like him or not, Trump is not a criminal.

[Slopuba]

Everything can be true. The Media only did claim that Trump couldn't win but there were 49% that thought he can. That means that they really may have felt threatened.

Now, I won't make any claims that Obama did but it is highly likely. Just gonna have to observe.

[Republic of Tacos]

The context has changed since the Nixon era.
Mass surveillance is a norm now. It would be odd for him not to be under surveillance.

While the Patriot's Act has been enacted and surveillance has become commonplace, it still requires a warrant to wiretap, (ex: if you a suspected terrorist.) Like him or not, Trump is not a terrorist.

Check the context of the Patriot Act. Trump was suspected to be working with the enemy/rival (Russia). If this turns out to be true, it was completely legal anyway.

[Slopuba]

While the Patriot's Act has been enacted and surveillance has become commonplace, it still requires a warrant to wiretap, (ex: if you a suspected terrorist.) Like him or not, Trump is not a terrorist.

Check the context of the Patriot Act. Trump was suspected to be working with the enemy/rival (Russia). If this turns out to be true, it was completely legal anyway.

These claims were highly unlikely and had no evidence. Stop it with the Russia and Trump Conspiracy that's a thing for us Right-Wingers.

[Northwest Slobovia]

Hmmm? Trump, facing serious problems, lies again to distract people? *yawn*

[Slopuba]

Hmmm? Trump, facing serious problems, lies again to distract people? *yawn*

Lies Again

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Self-righteous people on this site, seriously. They are everywhere.

[Republic of Tacos]

Check the context of the Patriot Act. Trump was suspected to be working with the enemy/rival (Russia). If this turns out to be true, it was completely legal anyway.

These claims were highly unlikely and had no evidence. Stop it with the Russia and Trump Conspiracy that's a thing for us Right-Wingers.

You realize that this "conspiracy" has been proven, right? Anyway, you're right, these claims made by President Trump are highly unlikely.

[Slopuba]

These claims were highly unlikely and had no evidence. Stop it with the Russia and Trump Conspiracy that's a thing for us Right-Wingers.

You realize that this "conspiracy" has been proven, right? Anyway, you're right, these claims made by President Trump are highly unlikely.

Proven right.



Send me something that isn't from some government subsidized Media or mainstream media.

[Christo Pax]

Hmmm? Trump, facing serious problems, lies again to distract people? *yawn*

He is not facing serious problems. It is common place for government officials to meet with ambassadors. Did you know that the Russian ambassador visited the Obama White House 22 times? Did you know Obama knew that Russia was interfering with the election during September 2015? He did nothing about it. And is it not too common for a Senator and member of the Arm's Service Committee, (Sessions) to meet with the Russian Ambassador at least once? And there is no evidence they discussed the campaign. At least Sessions wasn't like your friend Schumer who was enjoying a donut with the murderous Putin or Pelosi who lied about meeting with the Russian Ambassador when she actually did meet with him? Wasn't it smart that Sessions recused himself from the investigation about Russia, while Loretta Lynch never did when she met with Bill several days before the verdict on the emails? The fact is that Trump has inspired Americans, even Democrats, with his optimistic speech on Tuesday and the Left can't handle it, so they are causing hysteria. The Left is becoming less credible each day, and maybe that's why many people believe Trump's claim. It is not all too surprising actually, as the Left has been instigating violence against Trump voters and Republicans in an organized manner.

[Empire of Cats]

Some Articles to Read:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/04/trump-accuses-obama-administration-wiretapping-trump-tower-phones.html
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-accuses-obama-of-wire-tapping-in-october-1488637355

Link to the Constitution:

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

This could be a political scandal larger than Watergate if it is true. It goes as follows: then President Barack Obama wiretapped Trump Tower in October 2016. However, there has been no evidence of this unwarranted interference. But could this be another scandal to add to Obama's already tarred legacy, (IRS Scandal, Benghazi, Fast and Furious Scandal?) This discussion forum was created to engage a debate on this issue, and discuss if Trump's claim is true or false, and Obama's actions, (that is, if his actually administration carried them out) are justified or a violation of the Constitution.

Obama doesn't strike me as the sort of guy who would do such a thing, but I could be mistaken. If this is the case, I'd be pretty disappointed in number 44. That said, however, and though this doesn't excuse Obama if he did do it, he's no longer the President. Second, we as a country have bigger fish to fry. Shouldn't we be focused on the issues before us, like eradicating ISIS and fixing our crumbling infrastructure?

[Galloism]

Given Trump lies more than he tells the truth, his claiming such makes it less believable, not more.

It's a matter of statistics.

[Uxupox]

Some Articles to Read:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/04/trump-accuses-obama-administration-wiretapping-trump-tower-phones.html
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-accuses-obama-of-wire-tapping-in-october-1488637355

Link to the Constitution:

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

This could be a political scandal larger than Watergate if it is true. It goes as follows: then President Barack Obama wiretapped Trump Tower in October 2016. However, there has been no evidence of this unwarranted interference. But could this be another scandal to add to Obama's already tarred legacy, (IRS Scandal, Benghazi, Fast and Furious Scandal?) This discussion forum was created to engage a debate on this issue, and discuss if Trump's claim is true or false, and Obama's actions, (that is, if his actually administration carried them out) are justified or a violation of the Constitution.

Obama doesn't strike me as the sort of guy who would do such a thing, but I could be mistaken. If this is the case, I'd be pretty disappointed in number 44. That said, however, and though this doesn't excuse Obama if he did do it, he's no longer the President. Second, we as a country have bigger fish to fry. Shouldn't we be focused on the issues before us, like eradicating ISIS and fixing our crumbling infrastructure?

It's very doubtful Obama wiretapped Trump during his election campaign.

But you also have to remember that this Obama was Dubya 2.0 in respective to his foreign policy.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Oh man, this will be delicious if it turns out to be true.

[Seangoli]

Hmmm? Trump, facing serious problems, lies again to distract people? *yawn*

He is not facing serious problems. It is common place for government officials to meet with ambassadors. Did you know that the Russian ambassador visited the Obama White House 22 times? Did you know Obama knew that Russia was interfering with the election during September 2015? He did nothing about it. And is it not too common for a Senator and member of the Arm's Service Committee, (Sessions) to meet with the Russian Ambassador at least once? And there is no evidence they discussed the campaign. At least he wasn't like your friend Schumer who was enjoying a donut with the murderous Putin or Pelosi who lied about meeting with the Russian Ambassador when she actually did? The fact is that Trump has inspired Americans, even Democrats, with his optimistic speech on Tuesday and the Left can't handle it, so they are causing hysteria. The Left is becoming less credible each day, and maybe that's why many people believe Trump's claim. It is not all too surprising actually, as the Left has been instigating violence against Trump voters and Republicans in an organized manner.

There is a slight difference between government officials meeting other officials of a government in an official capacity and members of a person's campaign team meeting government officials during the course of the campaign. Particularly when that Government is responsible for one of the largest hacking events in the nation's history, and the information was used to sway people's opinions during the course of said election. And particularly when the person running encouraged the Russian government's hacking of American interests.

The false equivalency being thrown out by conservatives is just completely idiotic. There is a huge difference here, and this deflection tactic is not only laughable, it's completely pathetic.