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Is President Donald John Trump a Fascist ?

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Postby Soyouso » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:37 pm

Fascist Republic of Israel wrote:I really hope so

Sorry to disappoint you, chap (or madam if you're a girl I have no idea), but he's not authoritarian enough.
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Postby Crzeikstan » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:38 pm

He is very far right (and an asshole), but he is not a fascist. Calling him a fascist is basically insulting people who lost their lives to actual fascists (Ex. Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler).
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:39 pm

Crzeikstan wrote:He is very far right (and an asshole), but he is not a fascist. Calling him a fascist is basically insulting people who lost their lives to actual fascists (Ex. Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler).

Stalin wasn't a fascist, though.
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Postby United Democratic Christian States » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:40 pm

Trump isn't a facist over the fact he is a capatilist.

A Facist is Authoritiarian Mixed Economy.

Trump would be Authoritiarian(not enough to be facist) and capatilist.
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Postby Crzeikstan » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:42 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Crzeikstan wrote:He is very far right (and an asshole), but he is not a fascist. Calling him a fascist is basically insulting people who lost their lives to actual fascists (Ex. Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler).

Stalin wasn't a fascist, though.

He was (in his ruling style).
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Postby Orioni 2 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:43 pm

As for as I can observe from the news reports I read, Trump is not so much a fascist, as he is a demagogue. To better understand this, consider the 12 behavioural characteristics listed on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogue#Behavior

1. Scapegoating: always the victim, never the perpetrator
2. Fearmongering: "we live in a crazy dangerous world"
3. Lying: anytime he quotes statistics or starts vague arguments
4. Emotional oratory and personal charisma
5. Accusing opponents of weakness and disloyalty: low-energy Jeb, lying Hillary, lying Ted
6. Promising the impossible: building a wall, making Mexico pay for it
7. Violence and physical intimidation: if you've seen him shake hands
8. Personal insults and ridicule: see #5 and remember the joke about a disabled person
9. Vulgarity and outrageous behavior: "grab them by the pussy"
10. Folksy posturing: man of the people, but billionaire preppy
11. Gross oversimplification: fixing healthcare is easy, "I have the best brain"
12. Attacking the news media: Trump proclaims the media as enemy of the people
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:45 pm

Crzeikstan wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Stalin wasn't a fascist, though.

He was (in his ruling style).

Fascism is an ideology and economic system as much as a ruling style.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:46 pm

No, but not for lack of trying.
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Postby East Catalina » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:46 pm

Orioni 2 wrote:As for as I can observe from the news reports I read, Trump is not so much a fascist, as he is a demagogue. To better understand this, consider the 12 behavioural characteristics listed on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogue#Behavior

1. Scapegoating
2. Fearmongering
3. Lying
4. Emotional oratory and personal charisma
5. Accusing opponents of weakness and disloyalty
6. Promising the impossible
7. Violence and physical intimidation
8. Personal insults and ridicule
9. Vulgarity and outrageous behavior: "grab them by the pussy"
10. Folksy posturing
11. Gross oversimplification: fixing healthcare is easy, "I have the best brain"
12. Attacking the news media: Trump proclaims the media as enemy of the people

A narcissist who's trying to get the people's attention. Fits.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:47 pm

We limit the number of threads on popular topics. Use the MAGATHREAD for all things Trump.

And OP ... don't do that thing with all the blank space in your posts. It's really annoying.
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