First Amendment Anyone?

[Washington Resistance Army]

I like the First Amendment

And the Second one

Especially the Second one, that one's fun

I like some third with my second.

[Great Minarchistan]

Political correctness has never been his forte.

This isn't a matter of political correctness. This is a matter of Trump silencing the media so they'll stop speaking out against him. This is a matter of freedom of speech.

Trump blocked some press from attending White House meetings. This still means they got access to videotapes and stuff like this. He didn't censor the press, otherwise he'd forbid CNN, BBC and others to post stuff against him. Those are two different lines, keep that in mind.

[Big Jim P]

How about them leftists shutting down Milos speaking engagement?

[Internationalist Bastard]

Protest is free speech. Riotings being a dick

[Internationalist Bastard]

I like the First Amendment

And the Second one

Especially the Second one, that one's fun

I like some third with my second.

Has the third ever even been invoked?

[Outer Sparta]

–snip– initiating his own press?

It's called Breitbart. But the ammendment in question is the one that lets Bannon and Trump whisper their agendas in each others' ears...

But, more relevantly, you can ban press from your property, the same way you can ban me from your property. And these riots are violent-the First Ammendment's kind of irrelevant.

Trump didn't call Breitbart fake, nor did he call any tabloids that, even though tabloids mostly reek with fake news. If the First amendment is irrelevant, then maybe the entire Constitution is irrelevant.

[Big Jim P]

This isn't a matter of political correctness. This is a matter of Trump silencing the media so they'll stop speaking out against him. This is a matter of freedom of speech.

Trump blocked some press from attending White House meetings. This still means they got access to videotapes and stuff like this. He didn't censor the press, otherwise he'd forbid CNN, BBC and others to post stuff against him. Those are two different lines, keep that in mind.

Doesn't fit the leftist narrative, so it will be ignored.

[Outer Sparta]

This isn't a matter of political correctness. This is a matter of Trump silencing the media so they'll stop speaking out against him. This is a matter of freedom of speech.

Trump blocked some press from attending White House meetings. This still means they got access to videotapes and stuff like this. He didn't censor the press, otherwise he'd forbid CNN, BBC and others to post stuff against him. Those are two different lines, keep that in mind.

But the press can print out anti-Trump stories in response… angering the press won't be on of Trump's good moves. At least he has Brietbart and Fox News at his disposal.

[Lautrec-]

Our current president, President Trump, in speeches praises the first amendment as, 'a great thing' yet he tells people to stop rioting as well as not allowing news sources into a meeting? Doesn't the first amendment say freedom of speech and public gathering? How is Trump allowed to say this? Thoughts anyone?

What Trump (or should we say Bannon?) is trying to do is institute a softer version of Fascism identical to Russia's. What you see now are only the first steps towards that goal. It's only going to get worse as time goes by.

Protesting will be legal but any meaningful movement will be labeled as a "riot". Free press will exist as long as it doesn't attack the government. People will be able to express themselves freely as long as it can be ignored. You will have freedom but you won't be allowed to harm the government or the big corporations with it at any capacity.

Here is US holocaust's museum "early signs of Fascism" poster. Notice how many things Trump's government is already covering from that poster.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Trump blocked some press from attending White House meetings. This still means they got access to videotapes and stuff like this. He didn't censor the press, otherwise he'd forbid CNN, BBC and others to post stuff against him. Those are two different lines, keep that in mind.

But the press can print out anti-Trump stories in response… angering the press won't be on of Trump's good moves. At least he has Brietbart and Fox News at his disposal.

Well even FOX is on the fence with him. Picking a fight with media was a terrible idea.Also,horrible deja vu right now

[Internationalist Bastard]

Our current president, President Trump, in speeches praises the first amendment as, 'a great thing' yet he tells people to stop rioting as well as not allowing news sources into a meeting? Doesn't the first amendment say freedom of speech and public gathering? How is Trump allowed to say this? Thoughts anyone?

What Trump (or should we say Bannon?) is trying to do is institute a softer version of Fascism identical to Russia's. What you see now are only the first steps towards that goal. It's only going to get worse as time goes by.

Protesting will be legal but any meaningful movement will be labeled as a "riot". Free press will exist as long as it doesn't attack the government. People will be able to express themselves freely as long as it can be ignored. You will have freedom but you won't be allowed to harm the government or the big corporations with it at any capacity.

Here is US holocaust's museum "early signs of Fascism" poster. Notice how many things Trump's government is already covering from that poster.

Yeah pretty much. It's not fascism, but he's poking it with a stick

[Xelsis]

Political correctness has never been his forte.

This isn't a matter of political correctness. This is a matter of Trump silencing the media so they'll stop speaking out against him. This is a matter of freedom of speech.

He's not "silencing" them, he's just not talking to them.

If he starts going and shutting down stations and newspapers, then you have a point. But the right to freedom of the press means you can publish freely-it doesn't mean people have to talk to you if they don't want to.

Now, I would agree that he ought to be more transparent, even if I don't expect it, but he is under no obligation to be interviewed, and it certainly is not an infringement on the First Amendment if he is not.

[Walrusvylon]

People have a right to protest, not a right to riot.
And Trump can say whatever he wants. He has freedom of speech, too.

[Militant Costco]

People have a right to protest, not a right to riot.
And Trump can say whatever he wants. He has freedom of speech, too.

Yeah he can say:

'I'm going to nuke the noodles out of China"

But it wouldn't be very smart.

Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should.

Cmon people, we learned this in Elementary school!

[The Union of Continental States]

Our current president, President Trump, in speeches praises the first amendment as, 'a great thing' yet he tells people to stop rioting as well as not allowing news sources into a meeting? Doesn't the first amendment say freedom of speech and public gathering? How is Trump allowed to say this? Thoughts anyone?

Because riots aren't covered by the First Amendment and Trump has the right to call them out. You *bleeping* uneducated millennial.

[The Union of Continental States]

People have a right to protest, not a right to riot.
And Trump can say whatever he wants. He has freedom of speech, too.

Thank you, summing the facts up in a couple sentences.

[Roosevetania]

This isn't a matter of political correctness. This is a matter of Trump silencing the media so they'll stop speaking out against him. This is a matter of freedom of speech.

he's just doing it to maintain law and order, so I'm okay with this

Banning certain media outlets from his press conferences has nothing to do with rioting.

[Zhopgrad]

The US needs a stronger leader to hold the nation together after such a divided election, I am sure we will stop hearing of this within months, and as many above me pointed out Riots cause damage and are therefore not protected under First Amendment.

[Xelsis]

The US needs a stronger leader to hold the nation together after such a divided election, I am sure we will stop hearing of this within months, and as many above me pointed out Riots cause damage and are therefore not protected under First Amendment.

That "stronger leader" is the reason for the divided election in the first place.

[Abidawe]

Our current president, President Trump, in speeches praises the first amendment as, 'a great thing' yet he tells people to stop rioting as well as not allowing news sources into a meeting? Doesn't the first amendment say freedom of speech and public gathering? How is Trump allowed to say this? Thoughts anyone?

Because riots aren't covered by the First Amendment and Trump has the right to call them out. You *bleeping* uneducated millennial.

I'd revise the wording there if I were you, just a word of advice.

[TomKirk]

I like some third with my second.

Has the third ever even been invoked?

When I was in law school I looked up the Third Amendment in West's Law Digest and found only two citations. It was mentioned in a case brought by General Lee's son about the confiscation of the Arlington estate for the national military cemetary: Robert E. Lee never protested about that but after he died the family thought there was some compensation owed, and the court agreed; the Third Amendment did not exactly apply but was mentioned as an illustration of the general principle that military needs do not justify seizing private property with no compensation. And Justice Douglas listed it in Griswold v. Connecticut (about whether states could ban contraception) along with the Fourth and Fifth as illustrations that our constitutional system gives us a right of privacy in the home.
Otherwise, it has not come up.

[The Union of Continental States]

Because riots aren't covered by the First Amendment and Trump has the right to call them out. You *bleeping* uneducated millennial.

I'd revise the wording there if I were you, just a word of advice.

Sorry, I forgot mods were SJWs. I'll make sure I keep the free speech down.

[Abidawe]

I'd revise the wording there if I were you, just a word of advice.

Sorry, I forgot mods were SJWs. I'll make sure I keep the free speech down.

Again I'd reword, if you're going to attack the poster and not the post you should just stop using the forums. You don't have the right to say whatever you want on a privately owned forum, especially when there are rules telling you what you can and can't do (the owners and moderators have the right to establish these btw).

[Zhopgrad]

The US needs a stronger leader to hold the nation together after such a divided election, I am sure we will stop hearing of this within months, and as many above me pointed out Riots cause damage and are therefore not protected under First Amendment.

That "stronger leader" is the reason for the divided election in the first place.

So your saying if Some other Republican stepped in for the Election that it would not be divided anyway?

[Dumb Ideologies]

Our current president, President Trump, in speeches praises the first amendment as, 'a great thing' yet he tells people to stop rioting as well as not allowing news sources into a meeting? Doesn't the first amendment say freedom of speech and public gathering? How is Trump allowed to say this? Thoughts anyone?

A couple of points:

1) There's not a freedom to riot.
2) He has the right to be snowflakey, throw hissy fits over social media like the worst kind of tumblrina, and not invite the media meanies to his tea party. Everyone also has the right to mock him for it, and I'm surprised that a lot of the people who've been mocking the left for years for stuff like trying to shut down controversial speakers on university campuses haven't been calling him out on how much of a child he looks for so diligently trying to create a presidential "safe space".